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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2014 14:47
That was quick....May Allah ta'ala accept. InshaAllah will follow this as it will help with understanding shiaism as well. Jazaakallaahu khayraa
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2014 09:52
Does saying the Kalima include Agha Khanis amongst Muslim?


Question:

Are aga khani muslims or not (-) can a sunni muslim marry aga khani girl who is ready to read kalima but not ready to change her beleifs?

Answer:

It is not sufficient to be considered a Muslim to say the Kalima and at the same time hold the beliefs of the Aga Khani sect. The followers of this sect are undoubtedly disbelievers and it would be a heinous sin to marry from any of them. The following are some of their deviations:

1, They worship the picture of their Imam Aga Khan.

2, Their Bismillah is different to the Bismillah of the Muslims.

3, The method of performing their Salah has no basis in the Qur'an and Hadith but rather is in violation of the sacred sources.

4, Fasting is restricted to fasting of the eyes, mouth and hands.

5, Haj is for them is to visit their Imam.

These and other beliefs and practices are a denial of that which is firmly established in the Religion of Islam, as taught and transmitted by the last Messenger Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) and consequently leave a person a disbeliever. Fataawa Haqaniyya, vol.1 p.385.

Mufti Mohammed Sajjad
Wallahu Aalam bis-sawab
As-Suffa Institute



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Question:

I would like to correct you on a Q&A regarding Aga Khani's, aka Ismaili MUSLIMS. Yes, Aga Khani's are pure Shia Muslims and this has been proven in history. I would appreciate if you could please remove your answer regarding Aga Khani's not being Muslims, as they also follow the Shahadah, Allah (SWT), Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)and the Holy Qur'an. We are no one to judge who are and who are not Muslims.

Answer:

Please note that just because a person says the Shahadah does not gaurantee that he/she is a Muslim, just as, for example, person who upholds justice but practices all forms of injustice, to continue to call him a just person, even if he proclaims to the world that he is just, is making a mockery of language and the intelligence. Shahadah does tell us that a person is a Muslim, but only as long as he/she does not uphold beliefs and ideas that negate it. If one were to uphold the view you seemingly do, then you would not be able declare anyone a disbeliever no matter how anti-Quranic and opposed to the clear teachings of the Messenger of Allah (SAW) they are. You would have to concede that even the Qadianis are Muslim as too are the Kharijis for they both pronounce the Shahadah, yet about the latter the Prophet (SAW) himself said, they would leave the Deen just as an arrow goes through its target (Sahih Muslim).

Furthermore, this is not and never has been the approach of the best of generations and the Muslim scholars for the last 1400 years. Hazrat Abu Bakr (RA) with all the companions fought and killed those who denied Zakah, even though they would recite the Shahadah. The companions did this because these people had apostated from Islam, which is why those wars are known in Islamic History as the Riddah Wars (Apostasy wars).Similarly Islamic History testifies that Muslim scholars, in order to protect the pure Deen from corruption and the Ummah from misguidance, often declared as apostates or disbelievers individuals who held views that could not be reconciled in any way with the very teachings of the two entities found in the Shahadah.

It will be clear to see for any objective person that this internal mechanism Islam has had to protect it from corruption is such a distinction that it helps prove its being the true Religion and divinely revealed. All other religions did, as you wish for Muslims to do, namely they let whatever erroneous baseless heresies reared their heads amongst them to take shelter under the name of the religion. Yet do you not see the absurdity of this, that something that is not only not revealed, but is in fact contrary to what is revealed, is somehow to be made equal to real revelation? Would we be so accommodating in worldly matters? If someone wished to buy another’s car and pulled out a pile of monopoly money, according to your principle the seller should happily accept the payment. But obviously you would never allow this, then why is it that when it comes to the most important of things: the Deen, upon which clings our eternal salvation or ruin we are prepared to make anything and everything the Religion of God.

The Deen of Islam is that which the Holy Messenger (SAW) brought. Allah taala said: "Today I have perfected for you your Deen and completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your Religion" (Sura al-Maidah:3). This verse was revealed right at the end of the Messenger of Allah’s (sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) mission. Thus when we look to the teachings of the Aga Khanis we find clear violations of this and other sacred texts.

To elaborate, when a person adopts a symbol of disbelief, it is sufficient for his/her leaving Islam. For example were a person to wear a cross around his neck, it would take him out of Islam. For this visual expression of Kufr is equivalent to a verbal or written expression of kufr.

Now, it is from the practices of this sect that they worship the picture of Aga Khan and have it in their places of worship. Just as wearing a cross takes a person out of Islam so too would this act. Similarly the belief that Allah taala is dwelling within their leader, is also sufficient for Takfir. There are many other grave deviances found in this sect that take them out of the fold of Islam such as changes in the way they offer prayer. (See Jawaahir al-Fiqh, Mufti Muhammad Shafi, vol.1 p.70). Thus it is not permitted to marry into them, eat their slaughtered meat and generally mix with them.

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Wallahu Aalam bis-sawab
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2014 12:27

Part 3: Historical names of Isma'ili Shia in Islam:

This sect/cult has been referred to with multiple names in classical Islamic literature as follows:

  1. Ismaili: This is due to the 3rd and one of the fundamental splits in Shia'ism over the appointment of Sayyidina Isma'il ibn Jafar (RA) the minor (underage) son of  Sayyidina Isma'il ibn Jafar (RA) as the successor and this group they became Ismaili Shias (Aga Khanees of our time)
  2. Batiniyya: They also developed the concept that the Qur'aan has an overt and a covert (Batini) meaning which is only known to the Imam. They also gave Dawah towards their cult (whild hidden) and were also labelled as Batinees due to it
  3. Sab'iyya (Seveners): The number 7 occurs over and over in Ismaili and Aga Khanee belief system so they are also called this.
  4. Muhmara: When the Persians tried to revolt against Arabs under Babak Khorrami the Ismaili Shias joined him and used to wear RED during the rebellion hence also refereed to as Muhmara
  5. Qaramitah: Ismaili Shias had a particular beef with Abbasid Dynasty because they also had family relationship with Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) through Sayyidina Abbas (RA) but had become Sunni so Ismaili Shias continued to rebel against them. Hamdan Qarmat gained some power in parts of Iraq and Yemen and started spreading Ismaili Shia'ism therefore they are also known as Qaramitah.
  6. Maymoniah: The (persian) Iranees referred to  Qaramitah as Maymoniah.
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2014 12:49

Part 4: Pillars of Isma'ili Shia'ism:

Unlike the 5 Pillars of Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaah the Ismaili Shias atcually believe in 7 pillars. When asked in public they say that they believe in Shahadah (but due to their) Batini Aqeedah i.e. everything has an overt (obvious) as well as (covert) meaning their Shahadah is no way the same as the Shahadah of Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaah. They admit 7 pillars but actually believe that the root (internal meaning) is more important; the tree is as follows:

  1. Pillar 1 walāyah: The walāyah (sanctity, closeness, friendship) of the Prophets and Imāms refers to their spiritual status before God.  The souls of the Prophets and Imāms possess sanctity due to their proximity or closeness to the Divine.  In this context, walāyah refers to an exalted spiritual station – due to which the souls of the Prophets, Imāms and saints are pure and in turn reflect the radiance of the Divine Names and Attributes. “Walāya also denotes the essential nature of the figure of the imām, his ontological status.  Now, the imām/walī in the ultimate reality of his being, is the locus for the manifestation of God (mazhar, majla), the vehicle of the divine Names and Attributes. ‘By God’, Imam Ja‘far is said to have declared, ‘we (the imāms) are the Most Beautiful Names (of God).’  The imam reveals God, he provides access to what may be known of Him, the Deus Revelatus, the zahir of God.” - Mohammad Ali Amir Moezzi, (The Spirituality of Shi’i Islam, p. 249)
     
  2. Pillar 2: Taharah "Purity": The Ismā'īlī lay special emphasis on purity and its related practices, and the Nizari consider this in a more esoteric sense too and apply it to purity of mind, soul and action, the Musta'lis also apply it to ritual practices related to prayer and cleanliness.
  3. Pillar 3 Salat "Prayer": Unlike Sunni and Twelver Muslims, Nizari Ismā'īliyya reason that it is up to the current imām to designate the style and form of prayer, and for this reason the current Nizari practices resemble dua and pray them three times a day.:
  4. Pillar 4 Zakah "Charity": with the exception of the Druze, all Ismā'īlī Madh'hab have practices resembling that of Sunni and Twelver Muslims with the addition of the characteristic Shī'a khums: payment of 1/8th of one's unspent money at the end of the year to the imām. In addition to khums, Ismā'īlīs pay 12.5% of their monthly gross income to the imām, which goes to the central accounts and then spent on welfare of the humankind like education and health projects. One of the major examples of these projects is the Aga Khan Development Network, that is one of the biggest welfare networks of the world.:
  5. Pillar 5 Sawm “Fasting”: Nizari and Musta'lī believe in both a metaphorical and literal meaning of fasting. The literal meaning is that one must fast as an obligation, such as during the Ramadan and the metaphorical meaning being that one is in attainment of the Divine Truth and must strive to avoid worldy activities which may detract from this goal. In particular, Ismā'īlīs believe the real and esoteric meaning of fasting is avoiding devilish acts and doing the good deeds. Not eating during the month of Ramadan in conjunction with a metaphorical implementation of fasting.
  6. Pillar 6 Hajj “Pilgrimage”: For Ismā'īlīs, visiting the imām or his representative is one of the most aspired pilgrimages. There are two pilgrimages: Hajj-i-Zahiri and Hajj-i-Batini the first is the visit to Mecca, the second, being in the presence of the Imam. The Musta'lī maintain also the practice of going to Mecca. The Druze interpret this completely metaphorically as "fleeing from devils and oppressors" and rarely go to Mecca
  7. Pillar 7 Jihad "Struggle": The definition of jihad is controversial as it has two meanings: "the Greater Struggle" and the "The Lesser Struggle", the latter of which means a confrontation with the enemies of the faith. The Nizari are pacifist and interpret "adversaries" of the faith as personal and social vices (i.e. wrath, intolerance, etc.) and those individuals who harm the peace of the faith and avoid provocation and use force only as a final resort only in self-defense.

Basically the first pillar (i.e. the Imam) gets to interpret what the rest of the religion is.

In Islam a lot of traditional concepts of (corrupted) Tassawuff also clearly come from Shia’ism i.e. Hazrat worship, Hazrat knows the true meaning of certain phrases, verses and narrations, rigid Taqleed of Hazrat etc. Taqleed is a NUMBER ONE aspect of Ismaili Shias, whatever the Imam says goes!

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2014 14:03

Part 5: Interview with (Imam) Prince Karim Aga Khan IV of Isma'ili Shia'ism:

Aga Khanees have some considerable influence in Canada with 2 of their 6 (worldwide) centres being in Canada. Furthermore the first eclected "Muslim" MP in Canada Rahim Jaffer is actually Aga Khani who was cuaght drink driving and with cocaine in his possession, charges were dropped in plea-bargain!

 

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  1. Minutes 3:01 onwards he defines his role as an Imam.
  2. Minutes 9:10 onwards where the plan of Ismaili Dawah in North of Pakistan
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2014 15:06
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The posts in this thread will therefore largely rely on this work because it is exhaustive and endorsed by Ulama.


So that I understand correctly, all the info so far including the tree is from the book?

Also in Part 2: it goes up to the 7th imam, unless i've missed something, where does the present agha khan (Karim) fit in? I thought there was more to come there.

In Part 3 the different names are for the agha khanais?
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2014 15:24

Part 6: Why the official titles to (Imam) Prince Karim Aga Khan IV of Isma'ili Shia'ism?

Summary:

Aga Khan is a honorific title bestowed upon Aga Khan (I) [1804-1881] in 1818 and since then the Imams of this cult and followers have been known as “Aga Khanees” . Historically and originally they are Shia Ismalees.

Long Part:

  1. Aga Khan (I) [1804-1881]: When the Shia Mohammad Shah Qajar (1808-1848) ascended the throne of Iran he appointed him as the Governer of Kerman (Iran) in 1835. They fell out 2 years later and he escaped to (Kandahar) Afghanistan in 1840 where he developed relationship with the British Empire. Due to his Services to the British Empire during the 1st Anglo-Afghan War he was given the title "His Highness" by the British.
  2. Aga Khan (II) [1804-1881]: Aqa Ali Shah inherited the Shia Imamat from his father in 1881. By this time while residing in India the relations with British Empire had become stronger. On the recommendations of Sir James Fergusson he was awarded his father's title of "His Highness" by the British.
  3. Aga Khan (III) [1877-1957]: Sultan Muhammed Shah succeeded his father at the age of 8 as the 48th Imam in 1885. He married Shahzahdi Begum in 1897 and in the following year set out on his first European tour at the age of 21. During his visit to Britain he was received in audience by Queen Victoria and knighted with the K.C.I.E. At that time he also made the acquaintance of the Prince of Wales (later to become King Edward VII) and set the foundations of a lasting friendship. He was created G.C.I.E. on King Edward’s coronation in 1902 and in the following year was nominated a member of the Indian Legislative Council. In 1908 on a visit to France he married his second wife, Mlle. Theresa Magliano, and in the following year his first son, Mehdi Khan, was born. Mehdi Khan died two years later, a few months before Ali Khan was born. The Aga Khan set out upon a career of public service, spreading a message of both modernization and loyalty to the British Empire among his followers as well as to a wider colonial audience. In sociological terms, Aga Khan III was a key connector, a key maven and a key salesman, and was thereby perfectly placed to guide the rapid transformation and modernization of the Ismaili movement. The British authorities carefully nurtured and fostered these characteristics, and equipped him with the necessary status and information. 1914 (at the start of WWI) immediately Immediately the British groomed Shia Imam jumped to defend the British empire and when Turkey opposed Britain he became the official “spokesmen” for Muslims of India in London and articulated (as a Shia Imam) that the position of Turkey was taken as a personal preference and not due to Islam thus confusing the Indian Muslims (who had always supported Ottomans). In 1916 to reward his Services to the British Empire the title of "His Highness" by the British.
  4. Aga Khan (IV) [1936-]: The British Government was directly involved with the 49th Imam of the Shias. A letter dated 13 February 1955, from Mr Antrobus at the Foreign Office to K.W. Blaxter at the Colonial Office, we read:

It has been agreed between our two Departments […] that the Colonial Office would be primarily responsible for advising on the affairs of the Aga Khan (III). In view of recent reports on the state of his health –though he made some remarkable recoveries in the past- it seems that one might expect to learn at any moment that he had a fatal seizure. Questions relating to the succession may, therefore, assume some degree of urgency at almost any time […]

To this the following handwritten text was added:

‘We assume that if the Aga Khan should die the Colonial Office would assume responsibility for any messages of condolence from H.M. the Queen and from the U.K. Govt. You would no doubt keep in touch with us on this.’

In a typed note125 marked ‘personal’ from Sir G. Laithwate to Douglas Dodds-Parker, we read: ‘Mr. Mott Radclyffe, M.P., has had a fly dropped over him about the “succession” by the Aly Khan: will H.M.G. “recognise” him as Aga when the present Aga Khan dies, in view of his wild-oat-sowing?
 

I advise everyone to read "Across the Threshold of Modernity : The Shi’a Imami (Nizari) Ismailis and British Foreign- and Colonial Policy In the period 1839 to 1969" to learn about the hand of British Government I reproduce a particularly juicy paragraph :

Here we see, gently and carefully phrased, British colonial diplomacy at its very best. High honours were bestowed, on which a reputation and indeed a worldly position rested in no small manner. But they were bestowed conditionally, with the hope held out that they might be renewed at some future date ‘once the (*) attitude of the Khoja’s was known’. Repeated attempts to make the title hereditary, or at least hereditary in a de facto manner by granting fiscal privileges which would put the title on a similar footing to those that were already hereditary, were ever so politely refused. The note also makes some interesting observations regarding the Aga Khan’s position since Indian independence:

(*) Read Loyalty to Britain

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2014 15:33

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very good questions, I didn't explain it properly...Please see posts 14, 15 & 22 with additions

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2014 20:24
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The posts in this thread will therefore largely rely on this work because it is exhaustive and endorsed by Ulama.
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Ok so the notes are compiled mostly from the book and some added from other sources

As for Part 2: understood...the imaamat continues until in 1818 the title of agha khan was given to an imam

Ok this is very important: from Part 4 Last paragraph in blue)
[quote]In Islam a lot of traditional concepts of (corrupted) Tassawuff also clearly come from Shia’ism i.e. Hazrat worship, Hazrat knows the true meaning of certain phrases, verses and narrations, rigid Taqleed of Hazrat etc. Taqleed is a NUMBER ONE aspect of Ismaili Shias, whatever the Imam says goes!


is this in the book?

...and Jazaakallaahu khayran for all the work. Its become much more clearer. I was going from site to site to put things together in my mind.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2014 20:35
Part 6: number 4: Agha Khan IV
Its quite confusing...was he given the title?

Here it says:
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The title has officially been recognized by the British government. The title "His Highness" was bestowed upon the current Aga Khan by Britain's Queen Elizabeth in 1957, when he succeeded his grandfather at the age of 20. He is a British citizen.


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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd November 2014 12:06
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 24th November 2014 12:10

Part 7: Aga Khani practises and why they are not Muslims?

Who are Ismaili?

There is no such thing as “Aga Khanees” in Islam this sect/cult is called a splinter part of Shia’ism and they are known as “Islamili Shias”. Neither the Ulama of Islam nor “Aga Khanees” themselves refer to them as “Aga Khanees” in Academic discussions rather the correct term is “Islamili Shia”.

After the passing away of Nabi (Sallallahi Alaihe Wassallam) the Shias split away from Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat and “appointed” Sayyidina Ali (RA) as their first Imam. The Shia then had a further split, a second split and then a 3rd split. During the 3rd split a group of Shias. They appointed Sayyidina Isma'il ibn Jafar (RA) the minor (underage) son of  Sayyidina Isma'il ibn Jafar (RA) and elected him as the successor (7th Imam) and this group became Ismaili Shias

Who are Aga Khanees?

(46th Imam) of Ismaili Shias was Aga Khan (I) [1804-1881]. He was given the title of Aga Khan in 1818 and since then all the Imams including the the current (49th Imam) Aga Khan (IV) [1936-] use this title.

Muslims in India/Pakistan refer to this cult as Aga Khanees when they are actually a cult within Ismaili Shias.

Ismaili Shias have other branches as well!


Aqeedah [Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat VS Ismaili Shias):

We (Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat) believe that the words of Allah (SWT) and his Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) is final. There are others who may be given temporary authority e.g. Ulama, Mashaykh, Ameers (in Jihad or other administrative matters) but they are only obeyed as long as they obey Allah (SWT) and his Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam). Where there is a disagreement then the final call is with Allah (SWT) and his Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam)

[4:59] O you who believe, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. Then, if you quarrel about something, revert it back to Allah and the Messenger, if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is good, and the best at the end.

The Ismaili Shias (and the sub cult Aga Khanees) believe the Imam to have the absolute authority to define, abrogate, add, amend and change Shariah as it is clearly stated on their site:

The Imam’s word on the Faith is taken as an absolute rule. Every Ismaili is expected to accept it

Number of daily Salah [Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat VS Ismaili Shias]:

We (Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat) pray 5 times a day as per the saying of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) while Ismaili Shias (and the sub cult Aga Khanees) pray 3 times a day.

Ismaili Shias (and the sub cult Aga Khanees) actually mock the Hadeeth of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and the incident of 50 Salah (reduced down to 5 due to Mercy of Allah (SWT))) as a pure fabrication!

Method of Salah [Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat VS Ismaili Shias]:

We (Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat) pray in a specific set manner while the Aga Khanees make duas (invocations) to the Imams. Since the Imam has the power to define Sharia these duas change (all the time) from country to country and place to place.

Direction of Prayer [Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat VS Ismaili Shias]:

We (Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat) pray facing Makkah. Here are the Ismaili Shias (and the sub cult Aga Khanees)

Aga Khani 1 wrote:
The following anecdote quoted by Nagib in another discussion, says it all.

When I went to Karachi in 1981, I was told the following anecdote:

Mowlana Shah Karim visited the Sulan Muhammad Shah Takri in Karachi with some leaders. From the top, he asked them where is the Qaba? The leaders started looking east and west, searching for direction but could not reply.

One of the caretaker [he was from Hunza] was summoned and he was asked the same question. I felt at the feet of Hazar Imam and kissed-it. Crying loudly, he said Khudawind, here is the Qaba. Hazar Imam said, you are right.

Nagib[/quote]

Aga Khani 2 wrote:

Yes..but the one thing that is common with all Ismailies regardless of creed, caste or geographical affiliation that you are failing to see...is that we are a BATINI FAITH...ESOTERIC..numerous farmans of the IMAM point to this..

Wonder why other brethern from the other tariqahs are failing to see that... this isn't just a Khoja ideology..if it is..than all should adopt it...

the idea of praying facing the Kaaba is a very exoteric thing..what is in the Kaaba..a meteorite..
agreed the Kaaba was built by Hazrat Ibrahim and then cleansed by the Prophet..but since when did we become so physical..
the kaaba means house of god.
i was always taught Jamat Khana is the House of Mowla Bapa..thus that's my Kaaba and unless MHI makes a farman telling me to face kaaba to say my dua...i am going to say it the same way i say it now...
to me..Allah..the noor of Allah..is everywhere..so no matter where I face..
He is around me and within me...

Shams[/quote]

 

Ramadhan Fasting [Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat VS Ismaili Shias]:

We (Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat) regard fasting in Ramadhan to be an obligation while Ismaili Shias (and the sub cult Aga Khanees) regard the word of the Imam to define the Qur'aan. The "Imam" regards their Sharia to be Dhahhir (external) and Baatin (internal) and he thinks that Baatin (internal) is more important so a person DOES NOT have to fast in Ramadhan at all! It is more important for them to do Baatin (internal) fasting i.e. be a person of good moral etc.

Read this discussion between the group on their forum about fasting!

Mandatory Fasting [Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat VS Ismaili Shias]:

Some Imam (down the line) mandated two additional kinds of fasting of "Beej Shukarwari' and "Satima no Rozo". My understanding is that this has something to do with new moon being on a Friday. Again don't think of their fasting as (our fasting), the timings and the methodology are all different. This is a discussion on their own forum.

We (Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat) have nothing else which is mandatory besides Ramadhan.

Hajj [Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat VS Ismaili Shias]:

We (Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat) know what Hajj is and has to be performed in Makkah.

Ismaili Shias (and the sub cult Aga Khanees) mock the Ka'bah as nothing but a meteorite and believe that the real Hajj is DEEDAR (seeing) of the Imam). They believe that according to Baatin (internal) eyes everybody should be connected to the Imam but in DEEDAR (seeing) the Baatin (internal) attention to the Imam and Dhaahir (external) eyes are combined to create a most complete experience.
This is Hajj.

[quote=ASPECTS OF IMAMAT AND THE DIDAR OF THE IMAM OF THE TIME ]All believers are urged to come into the presence of the Imam and to see him with their own eyes. Thus, the esoteric (batini) vision, realized through pious works and the constant remembrance of God during the nightly vigil , as well as the exoteric (zaheri) vision, achieved by travelling to the Imam’s residence and beholding the gateway of God’s mercy, becomes the ultimate purpose of human life.

Purpose of Hajj [Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat VS Ismaili Shias]:

We (Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat) know what Hajj is performed for the pleasure of Allah (SWT) and to seek forgiveness from Allah (SWT).

Ismaili Shias (and the sub cult Aga Khanees) peform Hajj to seek forgiveness from the Imam

[quote=Ismaili Dua for Forgiveness from Imam]“Greetings! O Emperor of the realm of faith and world; I come from Khurasan to behold your face. No worship accompanies me as a companion that I may be worthy of pardon. All I have is a soul imperfect, sins and transgressions galore. Despite such worthless goods, I long for your grace, hoping that through me you may forgive the trespasses of your servants — one and all. As you are the sovereign and governor of all creation, this being testified to by the Quran itself, your proper name has been made manifest to all the faithful. You are Shah Gharib and Mustansir, the inheritor of Shah Salam!” –  The Ismailis in the Middles Ages, by Shafique Virani, p. 175.

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 24th November 2014 12:12

Part 8: Kuf'r of Ismaili Shias (Aga Khani) & Conclusion

I don't think that I need to prove anything any more. :P

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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 24th November 2014 14:54
Jazaakallaahu khayran Brother Muadh. This has really helped me to understand. The one thing i was still struggling with is the name "Ismaili" and Alhamdulillah that too has fallen into place. Yes the conclusion is obvious. May Allah ta'ala accept this and keep us all on the right path, aameen.

My question is post number 24 still left
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 24th November 2014 15:29

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The material and the background is from the book but I am writing in English which means I need to make the material accessible to English speaking people (to see for themselves) so I can’t literally translate word for word and then reference an Urdu book. I know that for you it is sufficient to see an Urdu name but this will eventually have to go on a website so it has to be Kosher!

This is the reason why you see updated references and links to click etc.

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