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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 13th June 2014 17:00

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The shaykh is making dua for him to follow right guidance i.e. to stop his injustices.

Morsi's govt was also ultimately subservient to the Egyptian army whom we know is subservient to western powers. The ummah at present does not possess the ability to mete out justice against the likes of Sissi..look at what is taking place in the Shaam. Are the people of Shaam enjoying justice against Assad?

May Allah Ta'ala help all the Muslims through these dire times with their imaan in tact.

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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 13th June 2014 17:12

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Well Morsi would have tried to weaken the military but not given a chance. I pray that habib ali jifri is actually praying for his guidance and it is not actually some form of praise. Just makes it difficult for the awaam to read through all these conflicting messages.

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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 13th June 2014 17:40

You can interpret anything dodgy to be good nowadays. Habib Jifri just needs a passionate devoted defender here just as MTJ found one here.

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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 13th June 2014 20:33

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا يَسْخَرْ قَوْمٌ مِّن قَوْمٍ عَسَىٰ أَن يَكُونُوا خَيْرًا مِّنْهُمْ وَلَا

نِسَاءٌ مِّن نِّسَاءٍ عَسَىٰ أَن يَكُنَّ خَيْرًا مِّنْهُنَّ ۖ وَلَا تَلْمِزُوا أَنفُسَكُمْ وَلَا تَنَابَزُوا

بِالْأَلْقَابِ ۖ بِئْسَ الِاسْمُ الْفُسُوقُ بَعْدَ الْإِيمَانِ ۚ وَمَن لَّمْ يَتُبْ فَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ

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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 13th June 2014 20:46

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Surah Hujurat

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Actions are judged by intentions, so each man will have what he intended.
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 13th June 2014 21:24

i dont think maulana tariq jameel cares what some keyboard warriors say on the internet. Alhamdulillah he's doing work of dawah and thousands have got hidayat from Allah through his bayans.

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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 13th June 2014 21:58

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Exactly! Shaykh Habib Ali Jifri has guided and influenced millions around the world and will continue doing so no matter what these keyboard warriors say

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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 13th June 2014 22:11

Those making petty comments may not have even the lowest form of Iman. I'm most probably wrong, and I'm convinced that I'm wrong about these guests posts, but why do you make yourself look bad when:

Sayyidina RasoolAllah (saw)

said "Whenever you see an evil act stop it with your hands, and if you are not able to do that then speak out with your tongue and if you are not able to do that hate it in your heart and that is the lowest form of iman." (Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim)

So give them, us and everyone else a break man.

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Ahmed ibn Hanbal said, "If in any matter there is agreement between three people, then one pays no attention to the verdict of anyone who disagrees with them." Someone asked him, "Who are they?" He answered, "Abu Hanifah, Abu Yusuf and Muhammad ibn al-Hasan.
As-Samani / kitab al-ansab.

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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 13th June 2014 22:16

The Ummah is in a mess because we have forgotten how to disagree.

In a rational world people will agree with some actions of Maulana Tariq Jameel (RA) and disagree with some; likewise with anyone else including Shaykh Habib Al-Jifri (HA).

However we live in times where it has become important to announce Takfeer, denounce, reject, label and ostracize and mere disagreement is not sufficient.

Maulana Maududi (RA) is a case in point, almost all of the objection materials have been excised from his books, and he passed away in 1979. During the last days of his life there was a severe ideological split within Jamaat-e-Islami. You will find hardly any (almost none from the present generation of Jamaat-e-Islami) who have even read the controversial parts let alone agree with it and will furiously deny the concept of abuse or dishonouring the Sahaba (RA).

YET the refutation continues unabated, there ISN’T a single response from any major Jamaat-e-Islami Scholar in the past 20-25 years on the issue; in fact the most robust defence of Maulana Maududi (RA) is from a Deobandi Alim (in Urdu). If you ask Jamaat-e-Islam they simply point you to the book of a Deobandi Alim!

Now lets turn to Shaykh (Maulana) Tariq Jameel (HA) his words were uttered around 2008 (I believe or early 2009). 12-18 months after that MMA was dissolved so his comments are in the CONTEXT of Deobandees and Jamaat-e-Islami being allies of each other for considerable time!

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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 00:50

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- If you want to win arguments by returning similar words, then it is very easy to do so and simply proves you are trolling.

- If you are trying to defend Mr. Habib Ali Jifri, then it can be discussed in details from Shari'i perspective.

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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 00:54

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Hadhrat, I'm fully convinced that Pakistani JI differs greatly from those of India and Bangladesh.

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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 01:18

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Interviewer: People say that this is hypocrisy. That you pray for tawfiq (success) for the country's leader.

Habib Ali: First of all, perhaps some are not clear on the meaning of the term 'tawfeeq.' They think it means to dominate and take control.

However tawfeeq means for Allah to guide him towards doing righteous acts in the land. That Allah helps him to carry out what pleases Allah. Even for those who want another leader to take charge: do you really want to tear down the country just to prove your point?

This is not being a person of principle. In this case, you don't really have the best interests of Islam or your country in your heart.

Or you don't mind that Allah guides the leader towards reforming himself and the country, to walk the straight path and to heal the wounds in the country. Which of those do you prefer? This is where truth and falsehood become clear.

As for accusing me of Mudahana (appeasing rulers), it is my heart that chooses actions, and it is only Allah that sees insides the hearts. Mudahana is when a person describes someone with a quality that he doesn't have (overpraises him). For example, a ruler that robs his own country, while we describe him as trustworthy, or a dishonest ruler that we describe as honest, however, to make the dua "Oh Allah, guide the leader," I will make this dua for Sisi.

I will make it for Abdullah bin Zayed, I will make it for Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz. For any one who leads Muslim lands. That Allah gives them tawfiq to execute the responsibility given to them, so that Allah causes them to be a cause for their people's joy. Making dua for the leader for
goodness, for justice, for the path of light, is
essentially a dua for the people ruled by this man.

I forgive those who see this as a sort of 'appeasement' with corrupt leaders, who may have been thus been confused. I have now explained my position. If the leader does something praiseworthy, then praise him, and speak well of his praiseworthy acts. Because this encourages his heart to do more good. If he errs, if he does wrong, point out this wrong to him, but do not use this wrong as a cause to oppose him. This is constructive criticism, a way to criticize so that you rectify the wrong. As opposed to addressing this wrong in a way that causes enmity, and makes the leader feel that I am opposing him. I don't call him a criminal, a tyrant, or a failure. No, I tell him your action is wrong. Say it this way so you are helping him to correct the wrong.

Thirdly, sometimes events unfold in a way opposite to how we want them, and we may not understand it fully because we are not in leadership. It may be that he is addressing
something we are unaware of, because he is in a position of
responsibility, and this is a fact that many may dislike, but it is a fact.

He is in a position of responsibility and sees the big picture. However, he should definitely act in a transparent manner with his people. So either his wrong action is based on factors you are unaware of, or he is indeed wrong. So tell him "I am not with you on this wrong but we are with you in rectifying this wrong, and we will help you." This applies to any leader. If the leader then continue to commit wrongs, then of course his people will not continue standing with him. However, to those who voice complete opposition to the leader as some are now saying "Down with the next president!" I ask them: Do you really want to build your country or tear it down?

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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 01:34

Comments posted against his explanation^ are ample to prove his position:

ABH on Jun 12, 2014 wrote:

"Even for those who want another leader to take charge, do you really want to tear down the country just to prove this is not the right person?"

Al-Sisi has already torn the country down as he removed the elected leader.

"If he errs, if he does wrong, point his attention to this wrong, do not use this wrong as a cause to oppose him."

(1) This statement makes it sound as if Al-Sisi made a simple mistake such as cutting food stamps ... instead of murdering scores of people.

(2) He wasn't the rightful leader when he made these "mistakes."[/quote]

Aisha on Jun 13, 2014 wrote:

Make duaa for the martyrs that this tyrant killed, make duaa for the thousands languishing in prisons, then, make duaa for this man who swore to protect the democratically elected president, then used his power to back stab him.

[quote=Mohammad on Jun 13, 2014] I don't think Habib gets it. When he is making such a dua and using language that glorifies Sissy, he is, then, lending legitimacy to a leader of a military coup who "won" a farcical joke of an election!

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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 04:49

السلام عليكم

It is despicable that some of the ulema are supporting such tyrants. May Allah Ta'ala give us ulema who are not afraid to speak the truth.

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