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#76 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd May 2012 05:39
Yes brother, I had fasted for a few hours before having the cupping done. Please note, the image you have quoted me with is not my blood, that image was used as an example. The images from my cupping session are clearly labeled.
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#77 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 01:53
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Yes brother, I had fasted for a few hours before having the cupping done. Please note, the image you have quoted me with is not my blood, that image was used as an example. The images from my cupping session are clearly labeled.
salams brother.when you get to do the hijamah done on your self next,it is important that you should be in a state of fasting when you wake up in the morning until hijamah is performed for optimal bennefit..best time is after sunrise up to 11 am. i hope this will be of help.jazakullah
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#78 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 02:03

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I did have a question for you, and that is, "What size should the cups be, as they come in a variety of sizes. If you could give me the dimensions, that would be helpful."?
salams brother.the proper cups for cupping are called air cups.they are made of glass and are one size.larger cups does not make the cupping affective. air cups are bulb like cups with a little long neck.

 

 

i dont know the actual size of the air cups but you can get an iseal by making a perfect circle using your thumb and index finger.i hope this helps but i'll try to measure it my self and let you know inshallah

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#79 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 03:42
  salams brother please disregard the cupping book by Amin shekho to be an authoritative book according Hadith or fiqh. You can still read it to get an idea about hijamah and how it's done but not for fatwa.
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#80 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 10:25
Salaam,

I had a look at that site. Its got some very good info on other topics to that I may use on this site. I will take a look at the book later InshaAllah. I have downloaded and if possible we can add that book to collection we have on this site too.
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#81 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 11:05

This is the book the brother (brooklynyte4ever) is suggesting we read.

A SCENTIFIC MEDICAL STUDY OF CUPPING.pdf
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    [3660.96 kB] A SCENTIFIC MEDICAL STUDY OF CUPPING
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#82 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 11:58
Well the book is fascinating and does make sense in certain areas, afterall they were doctors who had experimented over time to produce such results. InshaAllah I will post some parts of the book here for those who would like to read it without downloading the whole book.

The one thing the book lacked, in my humble opinion, are the references for the Hadith. The only places I saw the references were on the explanation of contradictions etc. The verses of the Quran all had references.

One more point I would like to make is about the Hadith and its explanation about having cupping done in Spring due to the coming heat. The issue here in the UK is that we do not get summers like they do in the Middle East, we do not get such intense Heat, in fact, we hardly get to see a proper summer in this country, so would that rule still apply for us here in the UK? Would that not mean that cupping can be done here any time of the year? The best summer we get is maximum of 30 centigrade or 100 faranheit.

There are many narrations that mention certain foods that should and should not be consumed in the summer seasons (refering back to the book call "Medicine of The Prophet") due to the effects it can have on the immune system. Lets take dates for example, they are known as "Hot and Dry", too much of this produces heat in the body and can cause side effects like nose bleeds or spots, or Cucumber, this is known as "Cold and Wet" and if eaten in the cold seasons would cause a weak immune system to catch a cold. But again the problem in this country is that our weather season does not make much of a difference. One day it is cold and the next day it is warm or it rains not stop.

So since we don't have a summer with intense heat, can't cupping then be done at the time of need or whenever one feels like it?
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#83 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 12:24
Fascinating Read

A whole new dimension! Taken from the book above. (I must admit, they haven't proof read the book properly, anyway, I will make the changes in the quote below)

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What about the human body and what do we know about it?

It is another sea. It is one of the seas of the universe. Diving into it and delving into its secrets would be a kind of miracle of the time. It makes man fall prostrated to the greatness of its builder and founder. The human science is still at its early daybreak of exploring and verification of this sea ''the human body'' in spite of the high technological advance.

Yes! Let us travel every day to the shiny hands of God while doing miracles in these cosmos, in the mountains and in the sea, and in the sky "And also in your own selves. Will you not see" The Holy Qur'an, Fortress (51) Adh-Dharyat (21)

Let us kneel to this great hand in hope the luminous water of real life may penetrate into our thirsty hearts, in order to be infatuated with Him the Almighty, to be free from these materialistic screens that stand between us and Him and His love the Almighty. Then we may have the high state of reverence for Him, and return to the instinct of perfection in order to save ourselves from the eternal loss.

Our energies are deposited in our trust, and this deposit is temporal, it will not last. Tomorrow, we shall be without sight, hearing, smelling, willing, air, water, sunlight, or moonlight; and we shall be without brothers or friends where aspirations decline and we lose hope in a ditch in the ground ''the grave'' which made a reward for our pursuit and panting after this world without penetration through it to its most High Maker. For These reasons and for His love, mercy for us, God, the Almighty, knows all that, and after having varied His bounties and graces, he made us look at loss and extinction, and since we are rational and our religion is logical, He elevated us by His Prophet (PBUH) by what He conferred upon him (PBUH) of the sciences, secrets and miracles of this world, and the science of the true psychiatry. So he "the prophet (PBUH)" unveiled to us some
secrets of the spirit saying; man is always with whom he loves. So, if any one adheres himself to something or somebody other than God, he is cut off. Everything happening in the universe is passing to extinction except God.


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#84 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 13:03
@brooklynyte4ever.

I have noticed that the book mentions 2 cups or four or six. But according to others, it is best to use odd numbers as can be seen other Hadith about other topics, for example, the Prophet (SAW) would use 3 or 7 portions and also it is sunnah to eat the dates in odd number to get the full benefit from it. Odd numbers have been mentioned too many times in the Hadith and the Quran, Allahu Alum. (please refer to page 96-97 of the book)

When I had my cupping done by a proffesional, he also mentioned that I should have 1, 3 or 5 cups and that the blood should be taken out via the suction in odd numbers too.

Could you give further details regarding this too please, Jazakallahu Khair.
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#85 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 14:59
I've also gone through some of the videos, Very interesting.

www.amin-sheikho.com/en/home.php?page=41&id=859

Video one gets very interesting towards the end and the second video goes into more details.

I must admit, it sounds very good scientificaly, its a shame its not more Islamic orientated.


The videos show why it is vey important to ONLY do cupping between the shoulder blades and also mentions that in the UK cupping should be done in months June and July and that it must only be done once a year. Very interesting as this makes every ever method look futile. I have learnt the total opposite, in the sense that cupping can be done every month on the given dates, it can be done where the pain is etc. But by listening to the testimonies of those cured in the video, one thinks twice about it.

Maybe I will get it done next month inshaAllah and in the locations shown.

Jazakallahu Khair for the information, I guess many of the questions I have asked, have been answered in the videos.
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#86 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 15:00

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Salaam, I had a look at that site. Its got some very good info on other topics to that I may use on this site. I will take a look at the book later InshaAllah. I have downloaded and if possible we can add that book to collection we have on this site too.

 

jazakullah khair.thanks for looking brother.

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#87 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 15:18

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@brooklynyte4ever. I have noticed that the book mentions 2 cups or four or six. But according to others, it is best to use odd numbers as can be seen other Hadith about other topics, for example, the Prophet (SAW) would use 3 or 7 portions and also it is sunnah to eat the dates in odd number to get the full benefit from it. Odd numbers have been mentioned too many times in the Hadith and the Quran, Allahu Alum. (please refer to page 96-97 of the book) When I had my cupping done by a proffesional, he also mentioned that I should have 1, 3 or 5 cups and that the blood should be taken out via the suction in odd numbers too. Could you give further details regarding this too please, Jazakallahu Khair.

 

salams my brother

its simple about the amount of cups to be with drawn.six cups are the least and 8 cups are the max that can be taken out.from my experiance with soo many patients,this bares true to what i learned from my teachers at aminsheikho.glad you like it.overall it works as explained by them.mashallah, i cant tell you how many great results came from people that i cupped.people who had problems in their back,tail bone,carpel tunnela,numbness in the feet and arms,bad eye sight,all gone or at least nearly cured.allah is my witness that i speak the truth.

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#88 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 15:23
Your welcome.

The video says that cupping is being taught in 38 States across USA, so how comes it is illegal!
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#89 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 15:24
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Well the book is fascinating and does make sense in certain areas, afterall they were doctors who had experimented over time to produce such results. InshaAllah I will post some parts of the book here for those who would like to read it without downloading the whole book. The one thing the book lacked, in my humble opinion, are the references for the Hadith. The only places I saw the references were on the explanation of contradictions etc. The verses of the Quran all had references. One more point I would like to make is about the Hadith and its explanation about having cupping done in Spring due to the coming heat. The issue here in the UK is that we do not get summers like they do in the Middle East, we do not get such intense Heat, in fact, we hardly get to see a proper summer in this country, so would that rule still apply for us here in the UK? Would that not mean that cupping can be done here any time of the year? The best summer we get is maximum of 30 centigrade or 100 faranheit. There are many narrations that mention certain foods that should and should not be consumed in the summer seasons (refering back to the book call "Medicine of The Prophet") due to the effects it can have on the immune system. Lets take dates for example, they are known as "Hot and Dry", too much of this produces heat in the body and can cause side effects like nose bleeds or spots, or Cucumber, this is known as "Cold and Wet" and if eaten in the cold seasons would cause a weak immune system to catch a cold. But again the problem in this country is that our weather season does not make much of a difference. One day it is cold and the next day it is warm or it rains not stop. So since we don't have a summer with intense heat, can't cupping then be done at the time of need or whenever one feels like it?
salams my brother.glad you like it.the cupping can be done in all seasons and months.amin shekho's view that hijamah should only be done in the spring has no valid proof. Please disregard my past stance where I held this opinion of Amin shekho.
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#90 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 15:30

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"abu mohammed" wrote:
Well the book is fascinating and does make sense in certain areas, afterall they were doctors who had experimented over time to produce such results. InshaAllah I will post some parts of the book here for those who would like to read it without downloading the whole book. The one thing the book lacked, in my humble opinion, are the references for the Hadith. The only places I saw the references were on the explanation of contradictions etc. The verses of the Quran all had references. One more point I would like to make is about the Hadith and its explanation about having cupping done in Spring due to the coming heat. The issue here in the UK is that we do not get summers like they do in the Middle East, we do not get such intense Heat, in fact, we hardly get to see a proper summer in this country, so would that rule still apply for us here in the UK? Would that not mean that cupping can be done here any time of the year? The best summer we get is maximum of 30 centigrade or 100 faranheit. There are many narrations that mention certain foods that should and should not be consumed in the summer seasons (refering back to the book call "Medicine of The Prophet") due to the effects it can have on the immune system. Lets take dates for example, they are known as "Hot and Dry", too much of this produces heat in the body and can cause side effects like nose bleeds or spots, or Cucumber, this is known as "Cold and Wet" and if eaten in the cold seasons would cause a weak immune system to catch a cold. But again the problem in this country is that our weather season does not make much of a difference. One day it is cold and the next day it is warm or it rains not stop. So since we don't have a summer with intense heat, can't cupping then be done at the time of need or whenever one feels like it?

salams my brother.glad you like it.of course,if the climate can be maintained through out the year in certain places of the world then it could be done because there are places that have wonderful weather all year round.its always good to refer with the ones who made the book and videos at aminsheikho.i beleive that they would agree with you too.spread thewould as much as you can.i would like to see how the brothers who perform hijamah ract to this.some will be delited and some wont like the idea since alot of brothers worry about lossing customers. hijamah can be done twice in spring.this is the most that can be done.the bad blood that accumulates in a year is about one or two sessions the most.even once a year is good.twice is optional.

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