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#241 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 22:12
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I am just curious as to what brought this question up?

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#242 [Permalink] Posted on 5th April 2014 00:04
When women get together, they tend to out do one another. So in this case, one sister had an appointment to perform cupping on another sister, but indirectly it was mentioned by a third sister, that the one doing the cupping is not clean.

The sister who was about to perform the cupping wasn't even aware of their little chit chat.

It just happened to be that on that particular day, the sister made ghusl and purified herself and no one was aware of it except the children who saw her praying.

So she was able to close the case without an answer.

It's sad that as Muslims we can't see others having even a little bit more knowledge than others. Jealousy is rife in the ummah especially for the wrong reasons.

The third sister was looking for an excuse to put the cupping sister down.

Hence the question was asked to me and I passed it on.
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#243 [Permalink] Posted on 5th April 2014 00:19
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Salamualaikum

Good point my brother.

As for sisters doing hijamah in the state of their cycle, out of precaution it shouldn't be done. That's just from a medical perspective. I'm also waiting for a reply on this question in regards to fiqh.

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#244 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2014 05:19
Salamualaikum to all

I just got this from the majlis in regards to my last post. Hope that its of help inshallah.


ASSALAMU ALAIKUM

6 Jamadith Thaani 1435 (7 April 2014)

Dear brother

Your e-mail dated 5 April 2014 refers.

While I have not found any narration to prohibit a woman in menses
from being cupped, it is best and safest that she abstains from it
during her periods in view of the medical perspective.

Was-salaam

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#245 [Permalink] Posted on 16th August 2015 13:05
Call for Hijama therapy regulation
12 May 2015

A complementary therapy called Hijama, or wet cupping, needs tighter regulation, say experienced practitioners.
Hijama is used to treat a wide range of conditions including migraines and hay fever and involves cutting the skin and drawing blood with suction cups.

Therapists warn that some offering the procedure to patients are unqualified.
And this is putting patients' health at risk.
In Britain there are no rules to govern the practice. Anyone can set themselves up as a practitioner.
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In a room that looks a lot like a doctor's surgery in Leicester, a man is being treated for pains in his shoulder.
Khalil Ahmed Patel is a patient at the Institute for Clinically Applied Hijama Therapy (ICAHT) - a three storey building neighbouring a children's nursery on one side and a residential house on the other.
The institute also runs courses for anyone interested in learning how to practice the treatment.
Mr Patel has been receiving the treatment for over a year now.
He says: "I'm a heavy sufferer of hay fever and since I've had Hijama, I haven't had any hay fever. It usually kicks in at the end of March, early April.
"My wife and daughter also have it [hayfever] and they have been suffering, but not me."
He is being treated by Dr Rizwhan Suleman who is a trained chiropractor.

He says although Hijama is most popular amongst the Muslim communities - it was recommended by the Islamic prophet, Muhammad - non-Muslims are also having it done.

But there is concern that some who are performing the procedure are inexperienced and do not have any background in health.
There have also been reports of treatment being carried out in unhygienic circumstances, such as in a garage. One Hijamist tried, unsuccessfully, to rent an room in a community centre in Lancashire.

In another incidence, a therapist reportedly used animal horns instead of sterile cups, which could increase the risk of spreading blood borne infections such as HIV or hepatitis.
Dr Sirfraz Nazir from the British Cupping Society is one of those who is worried about rogue practitioners.

The society strongly recommends that treatment should only be sought from health professionals.
He says he knows of several incidents of bad practice.

"A female patient with breast cancer came to see me. She was in the advanced stages of cancer because she had not been for her chemotherapy. She said she had been Hijama and that the practitioner had told her it would cure her.
"Also, a man with heart problems had a heart attack whilst he was having the treatment carried out and the person treating him didn't realise."
Dr Nazir believes only those with appropriate training should be allowed to do it.
He says: "We are trying to emphasise the need for standardisation, the need for ensuring practitioners are trained adequately and the environment they practice in is of an adequate standard."

One local authority in Lancashire, Blackburn with Darwen, says that any clinics in the borough must register with them - and three have been set up in the town over the last few years.

A Council spokesman said: "We have a couple of clinics registered in the borough and we have inspected them and found them to be satisfactory from a hygiene point of view. Our advice to consumers would always be to ensure that cupping establishments are registered with the local authority."

The ICAHT currently has 128 practitioners, from across the country, who have registered with it but there is no legal requirement for this.
Dr Suleman from the ICAHT says the profession needs to be monitored.

He said: "We have established a register for practitioners who have reached a certain standard and criteria and standard of education and practice.

"We verify they are safe to practice and that they have a certain amount amount of clinical experience, have passed exams and are insured."
Public Health England, is the government department responsible for protecting the nation's health. It says it is looking in to the issue.
Dr Fortune Ncube, Head of Blood Borne viruses for Public Health England said: "We have met with practitioners and environmental health colleagues to discuss cupping therapy.
"At present, in the absence of national best practice guidance, we advocate that anyone performing wet-cupping must do so in a clean and hygienic environment, following standard infection control procedures, and must be appropriately trained in order to prevent the risk of causing infection or harm to both practitioners and clients."
The Complementary and Natural Health Care Council holds a register for complimentary therapists, but not for those who carry out cupping.

A spokesperson said: "If practitioners of Hijama Cupping wanted to be considered for registration with CNHC, their profession would need to make a case to Skills for Health for the development of relevant National Occupational Standards in the first instance."
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#246 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd November 2015 17:01
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In the kitaabs of hadith too the sayings and deeds of Sayyidina Rasulullah Sallallahu 'Alayhi Wasallam are mentioned regarding the treatment of cupping, but the treatment of fasd (phlebotomy-blood-letting as a medical operation) is not mentioned, whereas, according to the tibbi hakims, the treatment of phlebotomy is more beneficial than cupping, and is a cure for many illnesses.

The reason for this is that both are not unconditionally beneficial, both have their peculiarities.
The land of Hijaaz is hot, as stated before, cupping is more beneficial for this country.

Hot and cold temperatures have altogether different effects on temperaments. In hot countries, and other countries in summer the heat of the body comes out to the outer part of the body, and the effect of coolness remains in the inner parts of the body. For this reason one perspires a great deal in summer, and because of the inner coolness foods take longer to digest, and many illnesses occur.

In cold countries, and in winter the heat of a person's body goes to the inner portion of the body due to the cold. As a result the food digesting organs are strengthened. Vapour emits from the urine, and diseases decrease. According to the saying of Baqraat, in cold temperatures the inner parts of the body become warmer, more sleep is experienced, and food is digested easily. For this reason rich foods digest easily in winter, and take more time in summer.

This is also the reason honey, dates and other heat creating foods do not affect the people of Hijaaz. In cupping, the blood on the outer part of the body is removed, and in Hijaaz the heat is more on the outer parts of the body, therefore, cupping is more beneficial there.

In phlebotomy blood is let from the veins and inner part of the body, there for it will not be beneficial there. For this reason, it is not mentioned that Sayyidina Rasulullah Sallallahu 'Alayhi Wasallam used the treatment of phlebotomy.
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#247 [Permalink] Posted on 14th January 2022 19:48
Assalamu alaikum

How long does it take for hijama cuts to heal and disappear?
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#248 [Permalink] Posted on 14th January 2022 20:45
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Within 3-5 days to disappear. Healing would be less time InshaAllah.

This can also depend on how deep the cuts are. Light cuts disappear in a couple of days.

Apply olive oil or something similar in the cuts, this helps it from feeling uncomfortable.
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#249 [Permalink] Posted on 15th January 2022 07:45
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جزاك الله خيرا
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