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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 27th May 2010 18:50

Is Shaykh Faraz Rabbani

BARELVI?

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 29th May 2010 18:55

Any one heard of Faraz Rabbani

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 29th May 2010 20:13

From what I've just checked, he's studied both Hanafi Fiqh and Shafi'ee Fiqh. The site he gives online Dars from also has these two categories.

In one of his answers, he says that one can ask a mufti but the lay person needs to be fairly aware too. So all indications are that he is a Muqallid and follows either the Hanafi or Shafi'ee Fiqh.

I hope this helps.

I also find his answers to be a little light and the only indications towards anything incorrect is that he mentioned Mawlid as a category of Nasheeds and Naats so if Mawlid here is refering to celebrating Nabi (s)'s birthday then Allahu A'lam. But as far as I can see, he does follow a Madhhab.

I have sent them an email anyway to confirm this. Hoping I get a reply soon.

Wassalam

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 31st May 2010 20:27

jazakallah..because of his millad i thought he was baralvi...few answers of his i have read to questions..it made me think he was baralvi.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 1st June 2010 11:12

Yasin wrote:

From what I've just checked, he's studied both Hanafi Fiqh and Shafi'ee Fiqh. The site he gives online Dars from also has these two categories. In one of his answers, he says that one can ask a mufti but the lay person needs to be fairly aware too. So all indications are that he is a Muqallid and follows either the Hanafi or Shafi'ee Fiqh. I hope this helps. I also find his answers to be a little light and the only indications towards anything incorrect is that he mentioned Mawlid as a category of Nasheeds and Naats so if Mawlid here is refering to celebrating Nabi (s)'s birthday then Allahu A'lam. But as far as I can see, he does follow a Madhhab. I have sent them an email anyway to confirm this. Hoping I get a reply soon. Wassalam

Asslamo Allaikum Maulana,

Shaykh Faraz Rabbani is a Mureed of Shaykh Nuh Ha Mem Keller and a Hanafi.

Shaykh Nuh Ha Mem Keller recommened him to study with Mufti Taqi Usmani (HA) but he got ill and came back.

There have been some very serious controversies about him, first of all is this Fatwa of his:

Calling other then Allah (SWT) is permissable!
qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=3752&CATE=24

I see on some internet forums, people writing such things as "Ya Ali I invoke thee" - I wanted to know is it allowed to say such things? Does this not smack of shirk?
Wa`alaykum Assalam wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuhu,

In the Name of Allah, Most Merciful & Compassionate

There are a few issues:

a) It is a fundamental belief of Muslims that only Allah benefits or harms; that only Allah gives and takes;

b) It is also a fundamental belief of Muslims that Allah has created means for humans to take;

c) However, the relationship between these created means and their effects is only normative: it is Allah who creates the means, and Allah who creates the results.

This is why Shaykh Abd al-Rahman al-Shaghouri (Allah have mercy on him), the great spiritual guide and master of the sciences of faith (aqida) from Damascus, explained,

Taking means is necessary, and denying that they are effective is necessary. Whoever negates means is denying the Wisdom of Allah, and whoever relies upon means is associating others with Allah.

This is the understanding upon which Muslims �call upon other than Allah.� It is no different from taking medicine when sick, or going to a mechanic when your car is giving trouble: if you think that the medicine itself creates the healing, or that the mechanic is the one himself creates the fixing, then you have serious innovation in belief. The sound understanding is that Allah creates the healing when you use the medicine, and He creates the fixing when the mechanic does their job: we affirm these means, but also affirm that it is Allah who created both the means and the resultant effect.

This is pure affirmation of Divine Oneness. How can it smack of shirk?

See answer(s) mentioned below.

Wassalam,

Faraz Rabbani

P.S: I really want to bite my tongue on this one! How can this guy think that saying "Ya Ali" is affirmation of Divine Oneness?

Implicating and lying about Mufti Taqi Usmani (HA) on Istigathatha

Here is what Shaykh Faraz Rabbani claimed from Mufti Taqi Usmani (HA):

I asked Mufti Taqi Usmani about this matter of istighatha (calling on other than Allah), and his response was that this calling is either absolute or relative. In absolute terms, only Allah can be called, as the ultimate giver of all benefit. In relative terms, others can be called upon, if the beliefs of the caller are sound. He said that this is how we understand the istighatha found in the words and poetry of the great scholars and righteous of Islam. His position, however, is that caution is required in this-and that he and the scholars of his school of thought discourage the common person from this, due to widespread ignorance and the need for caution (rather than intrinsic impermissibility). I asked: So what if someone does it, but with sound beliefs? He responded: Then they cannot be condemned. [Amman, 2006]"

Since these are very serious accusations, Mufti Hussain Kadodia (of Sunniforum) contacted Mufti Taqi Usmani (HA) and asked for clarification and he issued a signed statements in English denying the conversation between him & Shaykh Faraz Rabbani:

Shaykh Faraz Rabbani and his student continued to implicate Ulama of Deoband so they are fully refuted in this thread:

www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?43379-Ruling-on-I...

The position of Ulama of Deoband on the deviant belief of Istigatha (calling someone other then Allah (SWT)).

deoband.org/http://deoband.org/2009/02/bidah/istigatha/

It has NEVER been accepted by any Scholar to permit making dua or asking for help towards someone other then Allah (SWT). May Allah (SWT) keep us clear from this Shirk (Ameen).

I used to defend Faraz Rabbani UNTIL it became to clear to me that they lied upon Mufti Taqi Usmani (HA)!!!

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 1st June 2010 20:26

This post needs the stamp but i cant edit anymore?

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd June 2010 05:03

I will add the same feature previously added but in a better format. Might have to wait a little though.

PS. Your signature needs updating, a colon needs to be added after http

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd June 2010 10:00

Jazakallah..so he is a bralevi......

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd June 2010 12:27

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I will add the same feature previously added but in a better format. Might have to wait a little though. PS. Your signature needs updating, a colon needs to be added after http

Asslamo Allaikum Maulana,

I personally find this matter very disturbing.

On one hand we have some normal laymen person who says "Ya Ali" but in this case Faraz Rabbani actually considers it "pure affirmation of Divine Oneness"!

What in the world??? How can people associate themselves with such a man and cooperate with him and ask him to come give talks at their masjids???

I mean Faraz Rabbani runs Aqeedah courses? Shouldn't this person be very seriously avoided?

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd June 2010 13:29

It is disturbing. We can do our best to invite as many people as possible to this group.

Currently, it is open for membership only and until then, contents cannot be read.

As this group was privately requested by shininglight, would it be ok to make it viewable to everyone but only members can post and reply? That way more can read the amazing contents of the group? Please let me know.

Wassalam

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd June 2010 19:03

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Walaykumsalaam

Maulana sahab ..If you think that showing our discussions about people or groups even before we reach an answer might be wise then i don't mind how you and the members want to manage it..inshallah i will be going abroad from July to beginning of September,so hope members will carry on the good work.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd June 2010 10:22

Assalamu Alaykum,

I did consider that and realised that there's not much if not any discussions or debates about people or groups except for the format of question followed by replies relating to the actual research on the group.

Second point was that with the group being open to memberships, it's still public but with extra steps to take.

Third point was that they cannot really intefere unless they're registered and request group membership and if found to be nuisance can easily be kicked out or even banned if required (Muadh_Khan has experience in the banning department so I'm sure he can confirm it's effective right?)

And final point to consider is that I can understand the restriction if the group was aimed at a particular group such as Ulamaa, teachers, Huffaaz, lawyers but as it's not, I looked at the benefit it can give to people unaware of usergroups, forums, memberships and also google can access it and index it for people to find it from search engines.

keeping all the above in mind, please let me know what you think. As it is a privately requested group, the final decision has to be yours. Either way, I understand both decisions and the reasons. Jazakallah

PS. There's still a month before you travel but inshaAllah the group will continue to provide.

Wassalam

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd June 2010 11:23

AWW. I know this is shining light's decision but if i may i'd like to say that looking at bothe sides maybe it would work if a topic is made public after its been stamped..if this is a possibility it could work insha allah

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2010 12:59

wasalam..i have to be very honest,i really have been staying away from Faraz Rabbani's posts,my inner feeling has always been telling me to AVOID him..But that's me Allahumdolila,but on lots of sites i have seen his replies to questions..and the disturbing thing is these people who use his replies to questions dont have a clue about him.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2010 13:06

I've seen his name many times as well and being Hanafi one would not immediately think of him being "unauthentic"...glad you brught the subject up sis

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