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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 11th August 2011 20:31
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Is it ok to perform Salah behind a Woman?
Please answer from the Qur'aan only
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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 11th August 2011 20:49
Salamun 'alaykum,
From 21:73 as I posted before , the salat came to us from Abraham generation after generation ,centuries before Quran and untill now.GOD ordered his prophet Muhammad to follow the religion of Abraham in 16:123(See my previous posts).
And no, from what we received generation after generation while learning salat, is that the imam must be a male.
Verse 21:73 says that the prophet Abraham and his sons were the imams who were inspired how to do salat and they teached to the people.This verse gives a further confirmation that the imam must be a male. Here is the verse again just for zhikra(so that brothers and sisters would not have to read all the posts from the beginning to find the verse) :

21:73 وجعلنهم ايمه يهدون بامرنا واوحينا اليهم فعل الخيرت واقام الصلوه وايتاء الزكوه وكانوا لنا عبدين

21:73 We made them imams who guided in accordance with our commandments, and we taught them how to work righteousness, and how to observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and the obligatory charity (Zakat). To us, they were devoted worshipers.

P.S: Thanks Yasin for your efforts to facilitate the interation ,and please Seiffeddine-M post your questions one after the other ,thanks in advance.
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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 11th August 2011 21:02
It says in the Quran to shorten the prayer when you travel (4:101). How long do you have to travel in order to be eligible to have this privilege? How short do you have to cut the prayer?
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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 11th August 2011 21:17
Salamun 'alaykum,
Please my brother ,when you read quran ,read the whole verse and in its context then GOD will guide you to the answer,here are the verses and the answer crystal clear from quran about the verse you are talking about (4:101) :


4:100 ومن يهاجر في سبيل الله يجد في الارض مرغما كثيرا وسعه ومن يخرج من بيته مهاجرا الي الله ورسوله ثم يدركه الموت فقد وقع اجره علي الله وكان الله غفورا رحيما
4:101 واذا ضربتم في الارض فليس عليكم جناح ان تقصروا من الصلوه ان خفتم ان يفتنكم الذين كفروا ان الكفرين كانوا لكم عدوا مبينا
4:102 واذا كنت فيهم فاقمت لهم الصلوه فلتقم طايفه منهم معك ولياخذوا اسلحتهم فاذا سجدوا فليكونوا من ورايكم ولتات طايفه اخري لم يصلوا فليصلوا معك ولياخذوا حذرهم واسلحتهم ود الذين كفروا لو تغفلون عن اسلحتكم وامتعتكم فيميلون عليكم ميله وحده ولا جناح عليكم ان كان بكم اذي من مطر او كنتم مرضي ان تضعوا اسلحتكم وخذوا حذركم ان الله اعد



[4:100] Anyone who emigrates in the cause of GOD will find on earth great bounties and richness. Anyone who gives up his home, emigrating to GOD and His messenger, then death catches up with him, his recompense is reserved with GOD. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

[4:101] When you travel, during war, you commit no error by shortening your Contact Prayers (Salat), if you fear that the disbelievers may attack you. Surely, the disbelievers are your ardent enemies.

[4:102] When you are with them, and lead the Contact Prayer (Salat) for them, let some of you stand guard; let them hold their weapons, and let them stand behind you as you prostrate. Then, let the other group that has not prayed take their turn praying with you, while the others stand guard and hold their weapons. Those who disbelieved wish to see you neglect your weapons and your equipment, in order to attack you once and for all. You commit no error, if you are hampered by rain or injury, by putting down your weapons, so long as you remain alert. GOD has prepared for the disbelievers a shameful retribution.





The answer to your question is that this is specific to war(4:100) and 4:102 explains how to do that.
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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 11th August 2011 21:25
...and the other questions.By the way, I apologize if you feel that I have insulted you. It was not meant to be insulting, especially the nick name, I was just using calculations to come to a different name.
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#66 [Permalink] Posted on 11th August 2011 21:34
Salamun 'alaykum,
The verse that brother Seiffeddine asked about is specific to war just look at the context Abou Muhammad, for travelling in general the only difference is for ablution ,it is possible to do dry ablution while travelling :

4:43 يايها الذين ءامنوا لا تقربوا الصلوه وانتم سكري حتي تعلموا ما تقولون ولا جنبا الا عابري سبيل حتي تغتسلوا وان كنتم مرضي او علي سفر او جاء احد منكم من الغايط او لمستم النساء فلم تجدوا ماء فتيمموا صعيدا طيبا فامسحوا بوجوهكم وايديكم ان الله كان عفوا غفورا

[4:43] O you who believe, do not observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) while intoxicated, so that you know what you are saying. Nor after sexual orgasm without bathing, unless you are on the road, traveling; if you are ill or traveling, or you had urinary or fecal-related excretion (such as gas), or contacted the women (sexually), and you cannot find water, you shall observe Tayammum (dry ablution) by touching clean dry soil, then wiping your faces and hands therewith. GOD is Pardoner, Forgiver.

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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 11th August 2011 21:50
In the above verse, can fertilised soil be used?
What about sand?
What is clean dry soil? What makes it dirty?
Does the tayammum ever end or break? If so, what breaks Tayammum? Prove it from Qur'aan only
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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 11th August 2011 21:53
On the side.

You are easily relying on what was told over 4000 plus years ago, with narrations from one to another, yet you deny what was recorded just over 1000 years ago. I don't get it.
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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 11th August 2011 23:18
Salamun 'alaykum,
Yasin at the beginning you said that you will only ask where is ablution in quran, then I gave you verse 5:6 ,but it seems that we are jumping from one question to another,while everything is crystal clear, soil is soil it is general ,and clean means clean it is crystal clear to, ablition in general includes dry ablution this is pure logic,so what breaks ablution breaks also dry ablution.
Abou Muhammad, it is GOD in 21:73 you says that we received salat and zakat from the prophet Abraham and ordered the prophet Muhammad in 16:123 to follow the religion of Abraham, when hundreds or thousands or people practice something the same way and transmitted to the other generations while each generation keeps it the same , the result is preservation, and you will notice that
the muslims are not fighting about the five prayers, but about prayers mentionned in hadith. Hadith was not used at the time of the prophet since Malek wrote his Muwatta 179 years after the hijra, and Bukharri his sahih 250 years after the prophet's death,there is a gap of centuries, such a gap does not exist between the prophet Abraham and us.
Please stop with this attitude of questionning for questionning ,see how the children of Israel asked a lot about the heifer, as a result they found it with much more difficulties at the end "wa ma kadou yaf'aloune".
The quran is the only source of religious laws not because it is my own opinion but because GOD said so in 6:114 ,please check previous posts( I do not want to be accused of posting the same post again and again eventhough you are denying this quranic truth again and again).
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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 11th August 2011 23:27
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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 12th August 2011 00:39
I would also like to add Proof of the importance of the Sunnah/Hadith from the Qur'an itself:

1. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): "He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah..." [4:80] Allah described obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him) as being a part of obedience to Him. Then He made a connection between obedience to Him and obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him): "O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger..." [4:59]

2. Allah warns us not to go against the Prophet (peace be upon him), and states that whoever disobeys him will be doomed to eternal Hell. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): "...And let those who oppose the Messenger's commandment beware, lest some fitnah (trial, affliction, etc.) befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them." [24:63]

3. Allah has made obedience to His Prophet a religious duty; resisting or opposing it is a sign of hypocrisy: "But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you [Muhammad] judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission." [4:65]

4. Allah commands His slaves to respond to Him and His Messenger: "O you who believe! Answer Allah (by obeying Him) and (His) Messenger when he calls you to that which will give you life..." [8:24]

5. Allah also commands His slaves to refer all disputes to him: "... (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger..." [4:59]

6. Allah also calls all people who accept Allah but refute the Messenger as 'Real Kafirs': "Verily, those who deny All�h and His Messengers and (those who) wish to separate Allah from His Messengers (by believing in All�h and disbelieving in His Messengers), saying: "We believe in some but reject others": and (those who) wish to adopt a way in between. They are in truth (equally) Unbelievers; and We have prepared for Unbelievers a humiliating Punishment. To those who believe in Allahand His Messengers and make no distinction between any of the Messengers, We shall soon give their (due) rewards: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful." [4:150-153]
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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 12th August 2011 01:02
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1/ Obeying GOD is obeying the messenger since we received GOD's revelations thru His messenger.
And GOD thru the mouth of his messenger commanded us to uphold quran as the only source of religious laws in 6:114 ,so who is disobeying GOD and His messenger?

2/ Since I am obeying what GOD and his messenger(the verses came from the mouth of the prophet Muhammad), I am following GOD and his messenger not against them, especially by following them when they say that quran is the only source of religious laws in 6:114 ,and that GOD permitted to devils to attribute fabrications to every prophet in 6:113 , you know what are the fabrications attribuated to the prophet Muhammad.

3/Again since obeying the messenger is a religious duty why not obeying him when he said that the only source of religious laws is quran in 6:114 ?Remember the messenger is the mean used by GOD to send his message ( last scripture is quran).

4/Same thing as 3/ .

5/ Reffering to GOD and his messenger , not to GOD and Muhammad(as a man) the messengerhood is a function ,and this function is to deliver GOD's orders and message without substracting/adding anything.

6/The verse you quoted said that we must not separate GOD and his messengers, this is what you are actually doing but not following quran alone,but putting instead sunna and hadith beside it like if GOD's orders and the messenger' orders came from two different sources (two gods=idolworship, shirk).
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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 12th August 2011 01:03
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1) Why don't we have any record of early Muslims completely rejecting hadith? i.e the sahabah, tabi, tabe tabi

Have you forgotten the verse

And the first to lead the way, of the Muhajirin and the Ansar, and those who followed them in goodness - Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him, and He hath made ready for them Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide for ever. That is the supreme triumph. (9:100)

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Concerning your questions Abou Muhammad ,they are legitimate , and the answer is also given by GOD in Quran , like Quran was teached by the prophet Muhammad and transmitted generation after generation , this is the same with Salat and Zakkat given to the prophet Abraham who teached them to his sons and the transmission generation after generation was the same as for Quran ,here are the verses :

21:69 قلنا ينار كوني بردا وسلما علي ابرهيم
21:70 وارادوا به كيدا فجعلنهم الاخسرين
21:71 ونجينه ولوطا الي الارض التي بركنا فيها للعلمين
21:72 ووهبنا له اسحق ويعقوب نافله وكلا جعلنا صلحين
21:73 وجعلنهم ايمه يهدون بامرنا واوحينا اليهم فعل الخيرت واقام الصلوه وايتاء الزكوه وكانوا لنا عبدين




[21:69] We said, "O fire, be cool and safe for Abraham."

[21:70] Thus, they schemed against him, but we made them the losers.

[21:71] We saved him, and we saved Lot, to the land that we blessed for all the people.

[21:72] And we granted him Isaac and Jacob as a gift, and we made them both righteous.

[21:73] We made them imams who guided in accordance with our commandments, and we taught them how to work righteousness, and how to observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and the obligatory charity (Zakat).* To us, they were devoted worshipers.


As Salat was inpired to the prophet Abraham and his sons who teached it,GOD ordred the prophet Muhammad to follow the religion of the prophet Abraham (in his way of performing religious duties = millah) :



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2) show me only one verse from the Qu'ran that says that the method of prayer was passed down from Ibrahim (Alayhis salam) to Muhammad (peace be upon him).

3) prove from the Qu'ran alone that the way the Prophets before the time of Muhammad (Sallalahu alayhi wassalam) prayed is the same way as we pray today. Just because prayer was sanctioned for them, that doesn't mean it was the same method of prayer.


And their worship at the (holy) House is naught but whistling and hand-clapping. Therefore (it is said unto them): Taste of the doom because ye disbelieve.(8:35)


4) Allah says in the quran


And if ye go in fear, then (pray) standing or on horseback. And when ye are again in safety, remember Allah, as He hath taught you that which (heretofore) ye knew not. (2:239)

Allah is telling the people to make remembrance (dhikr) of Him the way He taught them which they did not know before. Salat (Prayer) is a form of remembrance:

Don't show me verses where the Qur'an says that we should bow down and prostrate. No, show me where the Quran says WHEN we should prostrate and bow down (the order) and what we should say in each position.It is impossible and no one can show us this. We can only conclude that the method of prayer that we implement today as Muslims came from another source besides the Qur'an and that is the authentic Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Allah taught us how to pray by using the Prophet (peace be upon him) to show us. The Qur'an says that Allah revealed the Quran to us, but then in another verse it says that the Holy Spirit (Jibreel) sent the Qur'an down to us. Is this a contradiction? No, it's God sending us the Qur'an down but through the agency of the Angel Jibreel. Similarly it is Allah teaching us how to pray, but through the agency of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

7) Show me anywhere the Qur'an that says how many raka's we must pray for each prayer

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Zakat must be given away "on the day of harvest" (6:141). Whenever we receive "net income," we must set aside 2.5% and give it to the specified recipients - the parents, relatives, orphans, the poor, and the traveling alien, in this order (2:215). The vital importance of Zakat is reflected in God's law: "My mercy encompasses all things, but I will specify it for the righteous who give Zakat" (7:156).

Zakat must be carefully calculated and given away on a regular basis whenever we receive any income. Government taxes should be deducted, but not other expenses such as debts, mortgages, and living expenses. If one does not know needy persons, he or she may give the Zakat to a mosque or charitable organization with the distinct purpose of helping poor people. Charities given to mosques or hospitals or organizations cannot be considered Zakat, this is general charity or Sada9ah , zakkat is haq ma'loom it came to us from Abraham as "roub'ou al'ouchr" the quarter of tenth(2.5/100).



8) Where do you get this information from that zakah is 2.5%?
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#74 [Permalink] Posted on 12th August 2011 01:08
Salamun 'alaykum,
Please sister muslimah247 post your questions one after the other ,so I will be able to answer each question separately one after the other. Thanks in advance.
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#75 [Permalink] Posted on 12th August 2011 01:12
Salaam,

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