Who is Shaykh Nuh Keller Nuh Ha Mim Keller??

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 1st March 2010 22:58

Who is Shaykh Nuh Keller Nuh Ha Mim Keller??
Does anyone know if he is authentic or not?

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd March 2010 09:26

wasallam.

My own opinion,i have my doubts on him,but Allah knows best.

just because i have doubts on him,that dont mean his not authentic.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd March 2010 17:52

Jazakallah ..Fair comment.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2010 09:20

Found the following on Shaykh Nuh Keller:

www.masud.co.uk >Shaikh Nuh Ha Mim Keller

About Shaikh Nuh Ha Mim KellerNuh Ha Mim Keller, American Muslim translator and specialist in Islamic Law. Born in 1954 in the north-western United States,

was educated in philosophy and Arabic at the University of Chicago and UCLA. He entered Islam in 1977 at al-Azhar in Cairo, and later studied the traditional Islamic Sciences of hadith, Shafi'i and Hanafi jurisprudence, legal methodology (usul al-fiqh), and tenets of faith (`aqidah) in Syria and Jordan, where he has lived since 1980. His English translation of `Umdat al-Salik [The Reliance of the Traveller] (1250 pp., Sunna Books, 1991) is the first Islamic legal work in a European language to receive the certification of al-Azhar, the Muslim world's oldest institution of higher learning. He also possesses ijazas or "certifiates of authorisation" in Islamic jurisprudence from sheikhs in Syria and Jordan.

His Other translations and works include: Al-Maqasid: Imam Nawawi's Manual of Islam; The Sunni Path: A Handbook of Islamic Belief; and Tariqa Notes (handbook for those on the Shadhilli path of tasawwuf). He is currently translating Imam Nawawi's Kitab al-Adhkar [The Book of Rememberance of Allah], a compendium of some 1227 hadiths on prayers and dhikrs of the prophetic sunna. He is also completing a work on the issue of the Qibla which will be available soon.
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Can someone confirm that we can regard his work authentic? Theres a lot more on this site worth reading. The subjects are such that they come up in discussions among young people and its worth reading up but i dont know if it would be regarded as authentic.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2010 10:25

Jazakallah khair ..good work mashallah!..I have the same questions unfortunately.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2010 23:51

salam

i have read a few articles written by him and i find his work of barelvi sect.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2010 00:05

Nuh Ha Mim Keller (born 1954) is an American Muslim translator of Islamic books and a specialist in Islamic Law as well as an authorised sheikh in tasawwuf in the Shadhili Sufi order and in the Shafi`i Madhhab who currently lives in Amman, Jordan.

A brief clarification about Nuh Ha Mim Keller
"Whoever has no sheikh, has the devil as his Sheikh." - Nuh Keller ['Tareeqa Notes' Pg. 2 ]

Nuh Ha Mim Keller, an American Sufi Sheikh, became Muslim in 1977 and moved to Jordan where he currently resides. Keller claims to be a scholar of Islamic Fiqh. However, some troubling points can be found in his published works. We have listed and commentated some of his many mistaken statements and ideas, in order to expose his faults, lest the people follow the wrong ideas into misguidance and self-ruin

1. Following the Sheikh to death, and Setting aside one's intellect !

a. Keller says: "The conduct of the disciple towards the sheikh... consists of five things: following what the sheikh says, even when something else seems better; avoiding what he forbids, even if it means ones death; upholding the sheikhs honor be he present or absent, dead or alive; fulfilling the sheikhs rights to the degree possible, without remissness."

b. He continues: "... Suspending ones intellect, knowledge, and leadership except as the sheikh confirms."

(Reference 2. Pg. 102-103)

2. Overly praises the following problematic figures:

A. Abd Al-Wahab Shaarani is praised by Keller as a " Sha'afi scholar and prolific author in works in Sufism, sacred law and tenants of faith..."(Reference 1 pg 1023)

Comment:

However here are two examples of what Ash-Shaarani narrated in his writings:

i) He writes: "a man would not attain the levels of the siddiqeen, until he leaves his wife as if she was a widow, his kids as if they were orphans, and takes refuge in dogs pens."(in At-Tassawuf, Wal Masdar Pg 58)

ii) Ash-Shaarani also praised a celebrated sufi, who "cut of his own private part in the beginning of his 'Jathbah' a mystic Sufi state." (in Al-Akhlaaq Al-Matbuliyyah Vol. 3 Pg. 179)

B. Ibn Arabi

Keller and other sufis refer to Ibn Arabi as: "The greatest Sheikh, 'Al-Shaykh Al-Akbar'...(who is) widely regarded as a friend (wali) of Allah most high" (Reference 1 Pg. 1080).

The following quote is an example from Ibn Arabi's work:

The consolation (comfort) of Pharaoh was with the belief Allah gave him when he was drowning. So Allah took him pure and purified. There was no impurity in him since He took him in his belief before he had acquired any wrong actions. Islam effaces what was before it. He (Allah) made him (Pharaoh) a sign of His concern so that none might despair of the mercy of Allah, for "no one despairs of solace from Allah except for the unbelievers." (12:87) If Pharaoh had been of those who despair, he would not have embarked on belief (Imaan). Musa, peace be upon him, was, as the wife of Pharaoh said, "a source of delight for me and for you. Do not kill him. It may well be that he will be of use to us." That is what happened. Allah gave them use of Musa, although they were not aware that he was a prophet who would destroy the kingdom of Pharaoh and his family. (The Seal of the Wisdom of Sublimity in the Word of Musa)

Comment:

(1) Contrary to Ibn Arabi's statement the Quran clearly states that the Pharaoh died as a kaafir! See for example verse: "And indeed we went Musa with our Ayat and a manifest authority. To Pharaoh and his chiefs, but they followed the command of Pharaoh, and the command of Pharaoh was no right guide. He will go ahead of his people on the day of resurrection, and will lead them into the fire..." (Surah Hud 11:96-98)

(2) Regardless of Ibn Arabi's statement, the simple fact is that Keller is quoting a man who was declared a kaafir by countless well-reputed Muslim scholars. Below are some such statements:

i) Imam ibn Katheer in his book of Islamic history- Al-bidaya Wal Nihaya comments on ibn Arabi "He has a book named Beads of Wisdom in which there are many things that are apparently clear kufr."

ii) Imam adh-Dhahabi said (in Siyar 'Alam an-Nubala) that "if ibn Arabi's book (Beads of wisdom) does not contain clear Kufr, then there is no Kufr in the world!

iii) Imam 'Izz ibn abdul Salam said about Ibn Arabi: "(he is) an evil liar sheik who claims that this world is eternal (i.e. was not created by Allah) and embraces promiscuity."

iv) Also, a prominent Hanafi Scholar, Imam Bukhari Al-Hanafi, declared that: "The one who does not consider Ibn Arabi a kaafir, then he himself is a kaafir !

C. Ibn Al-Farid (References 3 Page 18)

In describing the hadra (public Dhikr), Keller said: "Singers near the sheikh, in solo or chorus, deliver mystical odes to the rhythm of the group; high spiritual poetry from masters like Ibn al-Farid..."

Comment:

Ibn al-Farid was a Sufi poet who died in 632 H. Imam adh-Dhahabi in his biographical works - Siyar 'Alam an-Nubala- said about Ibn al-Farid: that he filled his poetry with Ittihad[1]. "If his poetry is not clear Ittihad (kufr), then there is no kufr or misguidance in this world. O' Allah inspire us with guidance, piety, and protect us from desires. O' Scholars of Islam don't you get angry (by this) for the sake of Allah? There is no power except Allah." It is strange that Nuh Keller describes this same poetry as "high spiritual poetry."

3. Saying that people can see Prophet Muhammad (saw)

while Awake !

-Keller states that certain Dua's allow a person to see the Prophet (saw)

while awake!

About the Dua 'al-Yaqutiyya' Nuh says: "whoever regularly recites it three times, morning and evening, shall frequently see the Prophet, both awake and asleep, in the sensory and the spiritual." (Reference 2. Pg. 88-89)

Comment: This claim clearly contradicts the Quran and Sunnah which both confirm the death of the Prophet saw.

4. Reporting many fabricated supplications in his writings,

- Here are some examples of his innovated (man-made) supplications:

i) In the supplication 'hizb Al-Nur' he says: "I ask You by the reverence due to teacher, by the sanctity of the Guiding Prophet, by the sacredness of the Seventy eight,..." (Reference 2. Pg. 39)

ii) In the supplication 'hizb Al-Sheikh' he mentions: "And make me the treasury of the Forty" (Reference 2. Pg. 52)

Comment: What is the sacredness of the Seventy-eight?! What or who is the treasury of the Forty?!

5. Scholars and Human Intellect

a. Keller says about Abdul-Waheed Ibn Zayd رضي الله عنه and Imam Abu Haneefa رضي الله عنه they ".. performed the Dawn prayer for forty years with the ablution made for the nightfall prayer.." (Reference 1. Pg.1023 & Pg. 1028)

Comment:

1. This is against the clear teaching of the Sunnah. The Prophet saw said: "I pray some of the night and I sleep some of the night." Sahih Bukhari. And therefore Nuh Keller is insulting Abu Haneefah and others by accusing them of disobeying the Sunnah.

2. It seems Nuh Keller is either lying, or has placed his intellect aside (as mentioned above), since it is humanly impossible for a person to refrain from sleep for (40 years x 365 days) 14,600 consecutive nights.

6. Promotes dancing and singing as a form of worship !

Keller says: "Individual motives, thoughts, and preoccupations are momentarily put aside by means of the sacred dance, of moving together as one, sublimating and transcending the limitary and personal through the timelessness of rhythm, conjoined with the melody of voices singing spiritual meanings." (Reference 3. Pg.19)

Comment:

1. Since when have singing and dancing become means of Worshipping Allah?

2. If these are indeed means then why are there no authentic Hadeeth on how to dance for Worship.

*REFERENCES: 1. 'Reliance of the Traveler' by Nuh Ha Mim Keller

2. 'Invocations of the Shadhilhi Order' "

3. 'Tariqa notes' "

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[1] Ittihad means the onness of being i.e. Everything that exists is a part of Allah, � a major form of Shirk.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2010 09:25

I'll be honest, its all a bit above me!

Some seems to be taken out of context i.e. regarding following a shaykh while other things regarding Nuh Keller's opinions and praising certain other scholars, the du'as etc. can only be verified by our respected Ulama e Haqq...
Sister in Islam, if i may ask, who is the auther of this article you've posted?

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2010 11:48

salam sis

http://nuh.faithweb.com/pamphlet/brief_refutation.html

and also click this

http://nuh.faithweb.com/

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2010 12:12

wslm.. i always get it wrong when i post links, wonder where i'm going wrong...you can tell i'm no whiz at this

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2010 12:21

The links seems to be of Salafi's..that's why they are too shy to tell who they really are..because that would give away there Id.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2010 12:27

they have another site on Hamza Yusuf...they are NOT saying who they are so how can we accept their word? What we need is someone from among the respected Ulama with a bit of time to check out the works of Nuh Keller.

So what about Hamza Yusuf? I used to listen to his lectures some yeas ago until someone said i shouldn't

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2010 16:17

That's true we could do with some ulamah to check some of em out..or at least check some authentic websites out to see what they say..salafism will eventually take a person out of Islam and Barelwi's the will add as much bidah as possible but Islam in neither of these Extremes..I used to listen to Hamza Yusuf but since his 911 interviews he was blaming it on Muslims but there is 100% proof this was a false flag operation and inside American job to further their purpose against Islam..Like Maulana Tariq Jamil says he has traveled through the world but swears by Allah that the best Ulamah today of Asia (Ulamah Deoband)..and i think that's true in every way.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2010 16:35

Answer! 1. the tight rope is an indication to the deen of Islam. It is straight, absolute and without the slightest deviation. Allah Ta?ala told Nabi [Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam], ?Be firm as you have been ordered.?

2. There are many difference in Aqaid (beliefs) and fiqh between the Deobandis and the Wahabis. Some of the main differences are:

- The Wahabis are in essence Mujassimah (anthropomorphists-Those who attribute a body to Allah Ta'ala). They attribute a hand, leg, face etc to Allah Ta'ala, while the illustrious Ulama of Deoband hold fast to the belief of the Ahlus sunnah wal jamah and that is that Allah knows best the meaning of these words.

Similar is the case with all the sifat (qualities) etc in the Quran ie. the Wahabis take it on its apparent meaning while we say that Allah knows best what it means or at times we interpret it in a suitable manner.

-The Wahabis reject the permissiblity of using a deceased person as a intermediary in dua, while we hold that it is permissible.

-The Wahabis reject the Ambiyaa being alive in their graves

- The Wahabis hold that Allah is really resting on his throne in the sky, while we hold that this is from the Mutashabihaat.(Those unclear statements hose meaning is only known to Allah).

- The Ulama of Deoband disagree with the destruction of numerous blessed historical landmarks by the Wahabis.

-The Ulama of deoband hold that taqleed of one mazhab is necessary, while the Wahabis generally do not adhere to a mazhab and claim that following one imam blindly is Bidah and shirk.

-There are dozens of other differences.

3. It is proven from Authentic ahadith. See our attached answer. The website in question is a wahabi one which we would not advise anyone to visit.

4.The preferred view in the Hanafi Mazhab is that the hands should be folded.(Tahtaawi alal maraaqi Pg.376-Ilmiyyah)

5. To the best of our knowledge, both Shaikh Nuh and Shaikh Hamza in Aqaid follow the Ashari School, which are part of the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah. We do differ with them in beliefs slightly, as some of the beliefs propounded by the students of Shaikh Nuh are taken by our Ulama to be those of the Ahle Bidah. Nevertheless, both these scholars are part of the mainstream Sunnis in their beliefs to the best of our knowledge.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=c87393fc4cd9e98061f...

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2010 17:22

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

well i email him when i need some answers to questions..his a very good mufti.

As for Shaikh Nuh i think he is a bit of a sufi.but Allah know best.

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