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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2012 13:47
on another note. mashallah hundreds or thousands are going umrah this ramdhan from UK (due to summer hols and ramdhan at same time)...gutted im not one of those fortunate souls :-(

May Allah سبحانه وتعالى except all their duas and worship and make their umrah a means of their guidance and that of many others.
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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2012 13:48
Many "Men" only Masajid have screens in all the rooms for this reason too. I have a feeling it will spread far and wide.

I knew someone who offered Jummah Salah from his office using the radio scanner. Ajeeb.
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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2012 15:49
In a previous post, there was a mention of a meeting that was to be held at The Central Mosque in London.

Here is the video of that meeting

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXF998nioag&feature=related

Download link for pdf: - www.croydonmosque.com/?page=articles&view=moon - LECTURE ON Mufti Farid Patel, Mufti Sajid Patel and Shaykh Khalifa Imaam of London Central Mosque & Islamic Cultural Centre 146 Park Road. Ramadaan Subah Sadik Timetable meeting at Regent's Park Mosque, London on 5 June 2012 (3rd Meeting)
Important Announcement as regards to Unified Salah times in London by the Wifaq ul Ulama Upon the invitation of the London Muslim Forum three meetings were held at the Regents Park Mosque (ICCUK) with an agenda to unify the Mosques of London on CORRECT Salah times. Forty Six Mosques were represented at the meeting yesterday (5th of June 2012). With the grace of Almighty Allah we are pleased to announce that representatives of Forty Four Mosques have unanimously agreed that they will adopt the centuries old 18 degrees timetable. This is a timetable adopted by the majority of Muslim Countries throughout the World, and agreed upon by the majority of the Scholars throughout the world. In fact 99% of the Scholars of the Indian subcontinent are unanimous on the point that the time of Isha and Fajr begins when the Sun is 18 degree below the horizon.
One of the two Mosques that abstained was the Regents Park Mosque as they did not have their director Dr Dubyaan present. The Imam of the other Mosque was in agreement but he had to consult his committee before making a final decision.
May we also take this opportunity to inform the public that observations (Mushahadah) have been carried out throughout the world including the UK to verify the Subh Sadiq (True Dawn) times in this centuries old 18 degrees timetable and they have been found to be correct in all locations. We appeal to All Muslims to adopt the correct time table for Salah and Suhoor times so that they do not spoil their fasts or Salah.
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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2012 16:03
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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2012 19:17
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on another note. mashallah hundreds or thousands are going umrah this ramdhan from UK (due to summer hols and ramdhan at same time)...gutted im not one of those fortunate souls :-(


salam who shud u follow when going umrah
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2012 22:33
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Daywalk3r wrote:
on another note. mashallah hundreds or thousands are going umrah this ramdhan from UK (due to summer hols and ramdhan at same time)...gutted im not one of those fortunate souls :-(


salam who shud u follow when going umrah


We all follow the prophet, pbuh. But because there are differences of opinions you follow your school of thought. Let's not turn this topic into something else.
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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2012 23:50

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"Daywalk3r" wrote:
on another note. mashallah hundreds or thousands are going umrah this ramdhan from UK (due to summer hols and ramdhan at same time)...gutted im not one of those fortunate souls :-(
salam who shud u follow when going umrah

more or less answered at 9mins and 20 secs here:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR54IMhKqLc&noredirect=1

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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 13th July 2012 23:55
If one Masjid is following 18degrees and another is starting Fajar after 2 hours, how many degrees are they following.
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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 14th July 2012 09:55
i think about 12 degrees or a couple above that (i.e. 12 - 14ish)
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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 14th July 2012 12:40
I was experimenting last nite and managed to take this screen shots of the live weather

The time was just after 1am which as far as I know is approximately 18 Degrees according to most calculations.

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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 14th July 2012 12:43
Sorry I can't paste the images. Unfortunately the phone doesn't allow me to do it, inshaAllah I will try to upload them later.
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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 14th July 2012 14:41
Rubbish phone sorry, long process from iPhone. Had to create an email account, email the image, open it on the Android and upload it from there.
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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 14th July 2012 15:37
Apologies for the delay, see above.
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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 15th July 2012 22:41

Fajar Time according two time tables where the distance is a 5 minute walk.  The earlier one is at 18 degrees.

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Sehri 1 / Sunrise          Sehri 2 / Sunrise    Difference in time

1.04     /  5.03               3.17    /   5.08            2 hours 13 min

1.12     /  5.04               3.18    /   5.09            2 hours 6 min

1.31    /   5.05               3.19    /   5.10            1 hour 48 min

1.42   /   5.07                3.21   /    5.12            1 hour 19 min 

1.50   /   5.08                3.24   /    5.13            1 hour 34 min

1.56   /   5.09                3.26   /    5.15            1 hour 30 min

And as you get towards the end of the month of Ramadhan the gap becomes lesser and lesser

3.22  /   5.42                 4.07  /    5.47            Less than an hour

3.25  /   5.43                 4.08  /    5.48            Less than an hour

3.28  /   5.45                 4.11  /    5.50            Less than an hour

3.31  /   5.46                 4.12  /    5.51            Less than 45 min

 

 

I'm very confused, however, I'd rather stay on the safer side and follow 18 degrees.

Any explanation for the decrease in time difference.

 

Jazakallahu Khair.

 

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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2012 13:44
When the brothers go out for subh sadiq, is it possible for them to take photographic evidences with the time the photo was taken. I think this would prove very beneficial to all those who oppose or doubt. This method, if they dont apply it, would prove their findings in a much better result.

(May be someone can ask the brothers at ICOUK)
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