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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2016 10:43
New £5 notes contain animal fat, says Bank of England, drawing anger from vegetarians

Worried about PIG Skin shoes, wallets and belts? Now you got Tallow - Could be Beef, plant or Pig!



Having a fat wallet has taken on a whole new meaning.

Vegans and vegetarians have voiced outrage after it emerged the new £5 notes contain tallow, a substance made from animal fat that is often used in the making of soap and candles.

The news came to light when the Bank of England replied to a question on Twitter.

"There is a trace of tallow in the polymer pellets used in the base substrate of the polymer £5 notes," it confirmed.

More than 5000 people so far have signed a petition demanding that the substance is no longer used in the production of the currency.

"The new £5 notes contain animal fat in the form of tallow. This is unacceptable to millions of vegans & vegetarians in the UK. We demand that you cease to use animal products in the production of currency that we have to use," the petition read.

As the tweet was shared, social media users expressed their disgust at the news.

"New £5 note isn't vegan. Was everyone's 2016 New Year's resolution to do ridiculously insane stuff like adding meat to money?" on user, Dan Hanks, wrote.

Another said: "So unnecessary in 2016! I will no longer be accepting these notes. Ironic I donated my first fiver to a Vegan sanctuary."
Others, however, were not too worried by the news.

"As a vegetarian I really find myself laughing at vegan-militant tweets. So now we shouldn't use the new £5 note coz it's not vegan? Get out," one user wrote.

The new £5 notes are printed on polymer - a thin flexible plastic film that is more durable and secure than the current paper notes.

It is about 15 per cent smaller than the previous one and the new material will repel dirt and moisture - meaning that if a drink is spilled on it, the note can be wiped clean.

The arrival of plastic banknotes meant Britain joined a list of more than 30 countries that already used them. Australia was the first to launch plastic notes in 1988, followed by countries including New Zealand and Singapore​

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What do the Scholars have to say, Can we use it :(

Petition to stop using Animal Fat in money www.change.org/p/bank-of-england-remove-tallow-from-bank-...
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2016 10:54
More Animal Fat notes to come!

Future banknotes

The New Fiver is the first of the Bank of England’s new series of polymer notes, with the £10 and £20 notes to be replaced with polymer designs over the coming years.


NEW TEN POUND NOTE
The new polymer £10 note featuring Jane Austen will enter circulation in summer 2017.


NEW TWENTY POUND NOTE
The new polymer £20 note featuring JMW Turner will enter circulation by 2020.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2016 11:37
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I have asked them to confirm the kind of Tallow they use in these Bank Notes. Also asking some Muslims scientists to clarify the basis of the Polymer.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2016 11:59
Wifaqul Ulama is working with Bank of England Press Office to issue a statement on this issue. We are waiting for facts before the Ulama can make a decision.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2016 12:00
I think they will confirm it to be from a Beef source known as Suet

The Bank of England allegedly wrote:
Thank you for your enquiry concerning the £5 polymer banknote, which has been passed to me for reply.

We can confirm that the polymer pellet from which the base substrate is made contains a trace of a substance known as tallow. Tallow is derived from animal fats (suet) and is a substance that is also widely used in the manufacture of candles and soap.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2016 12:05

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10 Minutes ago Bank of England confirmed to us that they don't know the source and will contacts us as soon as they have the information.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2016 12:06
If its non pig fat is it still an issue? Wouldnt same ruling as wearin non pig leather apply? Doubt bank will make a new 5er as this one only jus came out and they hyped it up so much. Keep us updated inshAllah
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2016 12:10

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This is not leather but trace tallow added to Polymer which has completely lost all its characteristics so there is every chance that this is a “non-issue” for Muslims.

But that could change depending on the facts. We will take the facts and then let a Scientist evaluate and summarise and then Fatwa (probably).

No idea so let thing play out.

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2016 12:29
A colleague just asked what his bank card contains!

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What’s in a credit card?
The primary component that makes up a credit card is, of course, plastic – but not just any plastic. In order to ensure a credit card is lightweight and flexible while remaining durable enough for years of use, a special polymer blend was developed.

Polyvinyl chloride acetate
The polymer used in credit cards is called polyvinyl chloride acetate (PVCA) and is made by combining vinyl acetate and vinyl chloride and then adding some special chemical plasticizers for flexibility. The result is a plastic that’s dense, water resistant and durable. Sheets of PVCA are made and sent to special manufacturing facilities to be turned into individual cards.

The other component found on a credit card is the magnetic strip, which is comprised of an iron oxide coating which is magnetized before being applied. Recently some credit cards have begun using RFID chips, small power sources and other metallic components.


Had it been made of a Haram substance, how far would we take the matter - As Mufti Saeed Palanpuri once said, "Baal ki Khaal mut karo" or something similar (of course the topic was different) (Don't start splitting hair strands - rough translation)
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2016 16:01
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2016 16:47
Innovia, the company that makes the banknotes said it obtained the animal fat through a supplier, which it declined to name. The company said it used the substance to give the notes their anti-static and anti-slip properties, and pointed out that thousands of products contain tallow. It could not confirm which animals the fat had come from.

Animal fat used in plastics is most commonly derived from beef and mutton, though it can come from pork or other meats.

Innovia Security is the supplier of Guardian®, the world's most sophisticated banknote substrate which is currently issued on 80 denominations in 24 countries worldwide.
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2016 17:05
Innovia Security, which supplies the polymer substrate for both New Zealand's banknotes and the new five pound note, confirmed the presence of tallow in the product.

The manufacturer's resin suppliers used a "trace amount of tallow", to assist with production and processing.

This resin makes up a one per cent additive in the final product, on which the notes are printed.

In the case of the polymer notes, small beads of tallow are likely used to help the currency feed smoothly through machines, Alan Sentman, a chemist and lab manager at Polymer Solutions, told The Washington Post.

But, he added, tallow isn't exclusive to animal fat. It can also be derived from vegetable oils, cocoa butter and other non-animal sources.

"They absolutely could move to a pure vegetable alternative - there's no reason that wouldn't work," Sentman said.

"It's just a little bit cheaper to do with animal fat."
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2016 17:45
Guardian (polymer)

Guardian is the trademark name of a polymer originally manufactured by Securency International, a joint venture between the Reserve Bank of Australia and Innovia Films Ltd. The latter completed acquisition of the former's stake in 2013.

Its production involves gravity feeding a molten polymer, composed of extruded polypropylene and other polyolefins, through a four-storey chamber. This creates sheets of the substrate used as the base material by many central banks in the printing of polymer banknotes.

Production
Polypropylene is processed to create pellets. These pellets are extruded from a core extruder in conjunction with polyolefin pellets from two "skin layer" extruders, and are combined into a molten polymer. This consists of a 37.5µm thick polypropylene sheet sandwiched between two 0.1 µm polyolefin sheets, creating a thin film 37.7 µm thick.

The molten polymer undergoes snap cooling as it passes by gravity feeding through a brass mandrel, which imparts on the thin film many properties, including its transparency. The cast tube material is then reheated and blown into a large bubble using air pressure and temperature. At the base of the four-storey chamber convergence rollers collapse the tube into a flat sheet consisting of two layers of the thin film. This creates the base biaxially-oriented polypropylene substrate of 75.4 µm thickness, called ClarityC by Innovia Films.

The base substrate is slit as it exits the convergence rollers. Four 3 µm thick layers of (usually white) opacifier are applied to the substrate, two on the upper surface and two on the lower surface. A mask prevents the deposition of the opacifier on parts of the substrate that are intended to remain transparent. These overcoat layers protect the substrate from soiling and impart on it its characteristic texture, and increase the overall thickness to 87.5 µm. The resulting product is the Guardian substrate.

The opacifier conversion phase involves the use of resin and solvents, creating volatile organic compounds (VOCs) as by-products that are combusted in a thermal oxidizer. The resulting polymer substrate then passes through a rotary printing press using chrome-plated copper cylinders. After printing, the holographic security foil is incorporated into the base substrate. This is then cut into sheets and transported to the banknote printing companies in wooden boxes as a secure shipment.

Properties
Guardian is a non-porous and non-fibrous substrate. Because of this, it is "impervious to water and other liquids", and so remains clean for longer than a paper substrate. It is difficult to initiate a tear on the substrate, which has higher tear initiation resistance than paper.

Polymer banknotes
Guardian is used in the printing of polymer banknotes by many central banks.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2016 22:07
The Bank of England says its supplier is working on "potential solutions" to the issue of animal fat in its new £5 notes.

The Bank said the problem "had only just come to light" and it was treating the concerns with "utmost seriousness".

Vegans have expressed anger because the new polymer fiver contains a small amount of tallow, which is derived from animal waste products.
A petition to ban the note has attracted more than 100,000 signatures.

The tallow is used in an early stage of the production process and is "an extremely small amount", the Bank said.

"We are aware of some people's concerns about traces of tallow in our new £5 note. We respect those concerns and are treating them with the utmost seriousness," its statement said.

"This issue has only just come to light, and the Bank did not know about it when the contract was signed.

"[Supplier] Innovia is now working intensively with its supply chain and will keep the Bank informed on progress towards potential solutions," it added.

'Unacceptable'

The petition, hosted on the Change.org website, calls on the Bank of England to "cease to use animal products in the production of currency that we have to use".

It states that tallow is "unacceptable to millions of vegans, vegetarians, Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and others in the UK".

A number of Sikh and Hindus have also urged the notes be banned from temples, where meat products are forbidden.

Hindus believe cows are holy and sacred, and many do not wear shoes or carry bags made from the skin of cattle that has been slaughtered. Practising Sikhs are strict vegetarians.

The response from the UK's Hindu and Sikh communities began to gather pace after vegans and vegetarians voiced their feelings on social media on Tuesday.

The new plastic £5 note was introduced in September and is more durable than the previous one. It is expected to last an an average of five years - compared to two years previously.
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