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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 5th December 2013 09:22
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What the revert bro should do is stop taking his kids to his mom but keep on maintaining contact with her and being good to her. After all, its not his kids mom and no matter what - its still HIS mother. He must abstain from eating by her but he's a grown up adult and nobody can force-feed him pork and brainwash him into christianity. How many examples don't we have from the lives of the sahaaba where evil was combated with kindness, eventually resulting in another person seeing the beauty of the faith and embracing islaam.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 5th December 2013 09:28

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Sister,

 

You are talking about a tidy-neat package however in clear examples I gave (which have been censored) it isn’t possible for the son (or the daughter) to do anything to balance the rights of one over (or equivalent) to another.

There is where pure EVIL is involved.

If a mother is shaving beards (while asleep) or slipping pork into the food or other heinous things then a person should turn to Ulamah and take necessary precautions to safeguard their Eeman and that of their family.

Being a mother doesn't entitle her to do all of the above.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 5th December 2013 15:19
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Oh ok, I get the point. Real evil people as parents. I can understand the need to stay in a different place or a far away place. But still, breaking the relationship means declaring ones own Mother as null and void. If its allowed in the shariah, I ve no problem in accepting it, I won't be asking for the 'underlying wisdom' for it. lol. Because Allah knows, we do not. But I bhai, I just want to know of any fatwa or daleel regarding the permissibility of what you mentioned.
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 5th December 2013 20:09

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Dr Saheb,

Please explain:

  1. How does one make the relationship with his/her biological mother NULL and VOID?
  2. Where have I claimed that?

Jzk

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 5th December 2013 21:05
salaam

if you have not experienced an 'evil' mother, then you will not be able to understand or appreciate what colonel is trying to say. sometimes a person is forced to break ties with their mother no matter how much it goes against what they really want. not everyone is blessed with good parents.
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 5th December 2013 21:14
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Agree, and most of the time it's out of preference from one over the other.

Not all humans are alike. And since we know that, let's at least keep talking positive about our parents. For it is because of them we are here and we have Imaan.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 5th December 2013 21:16
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For it is because of them we are here and we have Imaan.


even this is not true for everyone. some people have iman in spite of their parents.
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 5th December 2013 21:17

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But I have never claimed this NULL and VOID business. I have said multiple times that even if you are to break contact (after consulting Ulamah) you make dua and try your best to remedy the situation.

Where did NULL and VOID come from? No idea.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 5th December 2013 21:22
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I know, I meant it for many of us who were fortunate enough.

Sorry, I should've been more clear.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2013 00:51
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I thought you were speaking about when some people break the relationship and say 'From today onwards I do not consider you as my mother'.
Well I do not know the shari'i definition of 'breaking a relationship'. I guess you are talking about breaking contact.
Anyways waiting for daleel on what you said.
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2013 17:34

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Ah, now I understand the confusion.

You can't break relationships that way in Islam only happens in Bollywood. I was merely referring to abstaining from meeting a mother if she is EVIL and that is permissable after Mushwara and consultation with Islam and even continue to make dua and work your utmost to mend ties.

The Bollywood stuff is incorrect and Shaykh (Mufti) Yusuf Ludhyanwi Shaheed (RA) writes in Aap Kay Mas'ail Aur Unka Haal that it can't be done.

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2013 17:43
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JazakAllah for clarifying.
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2013 18:05
Home is not home without a Mother.

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"What has he found who has lost God?
And what has he lost who has found God?"
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