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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 17:21

forgot to say Jazakumullahukhairan in the last post..

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 18:12

assalamu alikum

1 where is shaykh Rabee mentioned in the quote you took "out of context" from shaykh Fowzan's answer?
it is not mentioned...shaykh salih was talking about non-scholar muslims who practice jarh and taadeel
and to prove this i will post his videos which express his opinions regarding shaykh rabee
you lied about this thinking that we won't defend our scholars. and that is a shame on you and you will be asked about it on the day of qyama.

2 shaykh rabee is mentioned and tributed as a trustee scholar by the mountains of scholars of the last decades (bin baz, albany, bin othaimen, and muqbil alwadi'y). and i will post their words about him in sha allah...

3 the person you mentioned and you injustly called (shaykh) mohammed musa alshareef...here is what he is all about:
a- he calls salafis "jamee's" and shaykh fowzan said a bout such people "they say that because of their
hatred, the shaykh mohammed al jamee is a salafi and a great scholar"
b- he has an episode on youtube about hasan al-banna... hasan al banna who used to walk with bare feet
a distance of kilometers to the idol of badawy at the date of 12 rabee al awal (alleged date of birth of the
prophet) and who also used to attend the (dhikr) of suffya and used to say the following shirk poem:
and here he is the loved one has arrived ----------- and forgave every one for what had passed and occured
just like the christians (jesus died for our sins), and what did he mean by (has arrived)
he was talking about prohpet mohammed salla allahu alaihi wasallam..by the way

your shaykh made a whole episode about him..and there is a lot where that came from but this post is not enough to mention every thing.

4- you said that we (what you call madkhalees) are filthy tongued..etc
did i post caricatures mocking other scholars? and repeated it twice? no,...i posted scientific documented evidence of the misguidance of the people you praise so much.

5- and about the "booklet of shaykh rabee" ..i say how convenient for that the parts you referred to were withdrawn...that is the oldest trick in the book...and again...shame on you to make such empty allegations on our scholars..

6 - regarding the (CIA) thing you mentioned ..let's assume that it is actually there and not "withdrawn" like the alleged booklet... i remind you to read more quran instead of reading what the CIA write . i am referring to the aya in which allah says ((O' believers if an immoral came to you with a news, make certain as not to strike people with ignorance)) ((يا ايها الذين امنوا ان جاءكم فاسق بنبأ فتبينوا ان تصيبوا قوما بجهالة))

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 18:12

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Creative, but the patch would look better if it covered the entire face.

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 18:17

@everyone : It would be better to have an academic discussion rather than bad mouthing scholars, whoever they are.

Jazakallah

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 14th November 2014 10:29

Few other traits of this group:

Deception: Quoting what the PAST SCHOLARS said before their Fitnah became apparent
Twisting the truth: Clutching at straws and discussing the seconday parts of an argument to death
Taqqiyah: "Deobandees" are deviants, herectics and the dude is here to give Dawah to Islam but as usual pulling wool over everybody's eyes
Rejection of everyone as Scholars: Whowever disagrees with them is not a Scholar; some of them clearly say that there are NO SCHOLARS in UK etc or maybe 1-2
Distraction: Notice how the following comment has been left out from his response:

I wrote:

“Rabee al Madkhali Slanders Sheikh Ibn Baz & belittles Sheikh Albani” [/quote]

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where is shaykh Rabee mentioned in the quote you took "out of context" from shaykh Fowzan's answer?
it is not mentioned [/quote]

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In the shield of “Jarh and Ta’deel” this group backbites and slanders everyone else and has the worst opinion of Ulama; major contemporary Saudi Scholars such as Shaykh Salih Al-Fawzaan (HA) denounce them and their tactics as follows, talk is here

[QUOTE=scholar translations]you injustly called (shaykh) mohammed musa alshareef

[quote=I]Shaykh Dr Muhammad Musa Al Shareef was born in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

He obtained his Ph.D. in the Qur'an and the Sunnah from Faculty of Usul Ud Deen (Theology) from Umm Ul Qura University.
He is an assistant professor in the Department of Islamic Studies at King Abdul Aziz University, Saudi Arabia.

It is an absolute futility to deal with these people so I just say:

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 15th November 2014 10:23

1- i mention scholars' opinions ...and i chose late scholars because the are probably the only ones we all agree about their integrity and to apply the advice of sahabi (abdullah bin mubarak) "this knowledge is religion, so make certain from whom you take your religion". ... but let me go along with... which scholars do you wish to hear talking about the knowledge and integrity of shaykh rabee???... and by the way... u did not mention any scholars whatsoever old or new..late or still living to support the "knowledge of your shaykh " (mohammed musa) ...and you are accusing me because i mentioned late scholars words?...

2- we address every single part of the argument...read the books of our scholars.. and if i did not mention a point of yours and address it.. it is for many reasons but absolutely not that i have no answer. and as i said earlier these posts are not nearly enough to address every thing...but still i am here and so are you.. and i will in sha allah adress any point you wish...although i wish you would take a look at the note i will mention later on.

3- Taqqyah.... i dont see what you are pointing to there..i'd appreciate making you words a bit more obvious instead of making generalized non-specific accusations.

4-"rejection of every one else as scholars",, now that -as usually noted in your statements- is an accusation not associated with evidence...now when i rejected your shaykh.. i mentioned why..and i hope (if you really know anything about the man) you address those points. and please mention the names of a few scholars that we reject simply for disagreeing with us.

5- "distraction" as i said ...i either forgot or had not time at that moment of for other reasons ..so i did not watch the clip you submitted...
and regarding the shaykh fowzan...i still say...the name "rabee" is never mentioned in his statement...(who is using extreme taqqyah now??)

p.s.:
please, when you make an accusation it should be associated with proper evidence as this is the only scientific way of addressing points. you can't just say "shaykh rabee hates everyone" and expect us to clown around like you guys are doing with the caricatures.. which is very saddening , now because the shaykh is hurt by it because people make fun of muslims all the time..but the saddening thing is that you , a muslim would got to such a level..i only expect such acts from non-muslims.
allahu almusta'an

i will in sha allah post the opinions of scholars of various times and countries regarding shaykh rabee..as soon as i'm finished with the subtitles.

wal salamu alaikum

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 15th November 2014 21:21

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2- we address every single part of the argument...read the books of our scholars.. and if i did not mention a point of yours and address it.. it is for many reasons but absolutely not that i have no answer. and as i said earlier these posts are not nearly enough to address every thing...but still i am here and so are you.. and i will in sha allah adress any point you wish...although i wish you would take a look at the note i will mention later on.

This is sufficient to run a mile from you...

"we address every single part of the argument"......
"and if i did not mention a point of yours and address it.. it is for many reasons but absolutely not that i have no answer"

Do you enjoy this kind of mumbo jumbo talk?
Do you crave confrontation?
Do Madkhalis EVER do anything but refute, argue and make constant false and delluded claims such as the one above?

I'll try to help you out here.. many have come, tried, failed and left humiliated. So save yourself some time and everyone else's time. But if you want to battle with the members then there's a section for it where you can waste as much time as you wish. Please PM abu mohammed and he will add you to that usergroup.

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