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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 12th November 2014 19:33
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 12th November 2014 20:53
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Welcome to Muftisays Forum.

scholar translations wrote:
i leave you with this short video [/quote]

Jazakallahu khairan, and I leave the readers with this short lesson.
Discussion with a real life Madkhali

[quote]important lessons translated to english


The talk is not even in English, so much for "Translation"
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 10:58
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 11:12
Dear Abu mohammed ......wa jazak allah mithlah,

1- the translation is included as captions within the video... that is what i meant and i believe it is enough for those who speak English to understand it. if there is a problem with the subtitles, i'd be more than happy to fix it. although i would appreciate being polite a bout it..but that's your choice.

2- it says in the forum rules and regulations that no one should speak negatively about Ulamaa and i quote " There will also be a zero tolerance approach on negativity towards Ulamaa generally which has increased in recent times." and the video you submitted obviously does.. even its very title.
now one would expect an"Authorizer" to be an example of how to follow the rules.

3- i will not break the forum rules as my islamic teachings forbid me from doing so, but i don't see why you did what you did... the shaykh jazahu allahu khairan speaked generally about khawarij..he did not specify any modern names (which we all know)...

one more thing...this forum also forbids debates, as does islam and sunnah...so this is my last comment about this issue...
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hello brother "muslim1" alsalamu alaikum
and thank you for your support... i hope we can all learn from each other in this lovely forum.
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 12:36
scholar translations wrote:
the translation is included as captions within the video[/quote]
Apologies, but I didn't see any captions unless they only appear for a short period.

scholar translations wrote:
i would appreciate being polite a bout it.

Jazakallahu khairan. I should always be polite. Once again, apologies for the sarcasm!

[quote="scholar translations"]and the video you submitted obviously does.

Where did I submit the video?

Of course we respect all Ulama. However if we disagree, then that's a different matter, but the respect remains.

Show me where I have disrespected any Ulama?
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 13:03
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The first three sentences he typed was "Salaam" (Du'aa)
Welcome to MS Forums - friendly welcome
And "Jazakallahu Khairan"

It can't get any more polite than that. So you're right, what has happened to us that "disagreement" is seen as rude nowadays!
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 13:14
Apologies.
I shouldn't have said that.. my (very) bad.

I commented without watching the video..
I am very sorry..
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 14:18

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Madkhalees are a virulent, hateful, poison filled sect which should be avoided. This “sect/cult” largely follows Shaykh Rabee Al-Madkhali (HA) who was a former department head at Madina University; he was the darling of Saudi Government largely because he wrote a booklet justifying the decision of Saudi Government to invite US Troops on Saudi soil. The trend of Madkhalees defending each and every action of Saudi Government continues to this day (although some aspects of the original book) have been withdrawn by the author.

Slowly with time this guy grew bigger than his boots and developed his own version of Salafiyyah and started criticising other “Salafi Scholars” and you can watch this in some videos like “Rabee al Madkhali Slanders Sheikh Ibn Baz & belittles Sheikh Albani”

In the shield of “Jarh and Ta’deel” this group backbites and slanders everyone else and has the worst opinion of Ulama; major contemporary Saudi Scholars such as Shaykh Salih Al-Fawzaan (HA) denounce them and their tactics as follows:

(Dr) Saleh Al-Fawzan (HA) wrote:
Questioner: Noble Shaikh, may Allaah grant you success, the questioner says, “We have heard from your excellency that [you say that] the door to Jarh and Ta’deel is closed in this time?”

Al-Fawzaan: “And are you going to open it now? Where is Jarh and Ta’deel? Where is the person who is able to acquaint [himself] with this field? These people do not have anything except speaking about people and defaming them, ‘So and so is like this and so and so is like that,’ this is backbiting, this is backbiting and it is not allowed. This is not Jarh or Ta’deel. Jarh and Ta’deel is knowledge connected to the chains of narrations, the chains of narrations of a hadith. As for you sitting and saying, ‘So and so has this, and so and so has that,’ praising and criticising—this is not Jarh and Ta’deel. This is Jarh only, there is no ta’deel in it.

[It is] Jarh and backbiting and tale-carrying.”

Major contemporary Saudi Scholars such as Shaykh (Dr) Muhammad Musa ash-Shareef (HA) clearly warn against this group, see video entitled "Shaykh Muhammad Musa ash-Shareef - Neo-Salafis in Tunisia"

In short, in the west these are mainly Reverts (new Muslims) ignorant born-Muslims who are the biggest ignoramuses, deaf, dumb and blind followers with the filthiest tongue who go around slandering all (other) Muslims and should be denounced.
 

In India/Pakistan lingo you can say "These are the WORST GHAIR-MUQALLIDS with the most filthy tongue!"


 

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:17
What do the scholars of madina uni say about him?
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:40

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Plenty of refutations on the Internet about this guy and here is what CIA writes about him and praises him for his tactics and siphoning off support (page 14 etc.)

 

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:50
Sign up to one of their forums, post a Bayan of (for example) Mawlana Hakeem Akhtar sahab (RA) and wait how enthusiastic they'll welcome you... ;-)
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 16:00

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She just needs to say that she is "Deobandi" :P

OR

Just needs to say that she disagrees with some opinions of Rab'ee Madkhali

O-F-F

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                   M-A-N-H-A-J

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 16:09
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"Off the Manhaj" always reminds me of angry pirates in cartoons making their enemies walk the plank. lol
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 16:27

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 16:29
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lol Hilarious... How you like this one?


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