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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd July 2014 12:42

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In verse 90:3 It seems Shaikh Al-Afasy recites it: wa wa lidiw wa ma walad.

Shouldn't it be: wa walidin wa ma walad?

In verse 2:102 I feel in four places he makes mistakes. Is it really so or is there anything wrong with my ears or headphone?

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd July 2014 13:28

There are 7 different ways to recite the Quran, unfortunately I only know one.

But from the one that I know, it is wa waa lidiw wa ma walad.

Although some Quran's have the text written differently

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd July 2014 16:06

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The problem is that you are reading it in a different text, which doesn't necessarily have all the symbols like you would find in the indo/pak version.

Also, why didn't you select another recitor from the list. They all pray in the same way :)

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd July 2014 17:06

As-salam-u-'alaykum, as for 90:3 it is correct, the tajweed rule of Idghaam is being applied. Kindly tell the four places in 2:102.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd July 2014 17:30

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After nun sakina or tanween if waw comes, one does idgham bi ghunnah. The nun is partly silent and combined with waw to produce a nasal waw. Same rule for yay, meem and nun.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd July 2014 19:23

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When we were kids we were never really taught these rules. We just learnt how it was meant to be prayed and Alhumdulillah we learnt very well too.

On the other hand, my kids now go to the same Madresa and they are learning the rules fully. It's great MashaAllah. At the same time it's funny too. My daughter will ask me a question about pronunciation and I'd do it well, but then she'd ask me what the rule was and I wouldn't be able to answer. Khair, we teach our kids and our kids teach us. Learning from them makes them feel that little bit better.

Then again, I guess listening to the Quran and reading along in the car, daily, helps too. Alhumdulillah my tajweed has improved much since I left Madresa.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd July 2014 19:49

wa `alaykumus-salaam

As explained beautifully by Bhai Umar, the rule of idghaam is being applied in 90:3. Learn more about idghaam with audio examples HERE.

As for 2:102, I've listened to the recitation while looking at the text, and did not find a single mistake. The recitation was perfect, masha'Allah. Kindly tell us the four places you feel a mistake is being made.

Also, are you using a Pakistani style mushaf, or a Madani mushaf?

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 02:19

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Jazakumullah everyone.

In my home I have a Quran like this one. Which is different (that I didn't realize) from this one I was reading through.

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Kindly tell the four places in 2:102.
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[quote]Kindly tell us the four places you feel a mistake is being made.

Actually these are five.

Here below are:

1. يُعَلِّمُونَ
2. السِّحْرَ
3. يُعَلِّمَانِ
4. يُفَرِّقُونَ
5. بِضَارِّينَ

Sheikh Mishary recites them as:

1. yu al limuna
2. as sihra
3. yu al limaani
4. yu far riquna
5. bi dhaar rina

Whilst according to my understanding these should be recited as:

1. yu al lamuna
2. as sahra
3. yu al lamaani
4. yu far raquna
5. bi dhaar rai na

There are many more places where I felt that there's something wrong. Now I doubt It's I who make mistakes in recitation.

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 02:30

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I see whats the problem here. In all 5 examples you cited, the kasra (rather than below the letter) is on top of the letter, yet directly below the shaddah. Some mushaf's use this font. Rather than have the kasra below the letter, they have it directly under the shaddah.

If the slant is above the shaddah, that is a fatha (zabar). If the slant is directly under the shaddah, that is a kasra (zer). However, in both cases, the slant will be above the letter itself. In both links you gave, this style is used.

The madani mushaf does not use this style, as you can see here.

Bottom line: Sheikh Mishary was reciting correctly.

Its best to stick to one mushaf so as not to confuse yourself.

May Allah accept our tilaawah. Ameen.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 03:39

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According to the later scholars like Muhammad ibn Muqātil, Muhammad ibn Salām, Ismā῾īl al-zāhid, Abu bakr ibn Sa῾īd al-Balkhī, al-Hindwānī, ibn al-Fadhl and al-Halwānī rahimahumullah, if a person errs in the 'i῾rāb and the harakāt then it will not invalidate the salāh at all. This view is the preferred opinion.[3]
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 04:51

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If the slant is above the shaddah, that is a fatha (zabar). If the slant is directly under the shaddah, that is a kasra (zer). However, in both cases, the slant will be above the letter itself. In both links you gave, this style is used. [/quote]

Jazakallahu khairan for the info. Thats clear now. Alhamdulillah.

Arslan. wrote:

In both links you gave, this style is used.
The madani mushaf does not use this style, as you can see here.

[quote="I"]In my home I have a Quran like this one. Which is different (that I didn't realize) from this one I was reading through.

Previously I checked only verse 90:3 from Indo-pak script verse 90:3 is the same as in my Quran in my home, so I thought I've a indo-pak version, but now when I checked 2:102 of my Quran I found that it's different.

I found that verse 2:102 of my Quran is written in the same style as in Madni style Qur'an of quran.com .

It seems this Qur'an is different even from Indo-pak script - because in verse 90:3 waw is in the form of tashdeed i.e there's shaddah above the waw. But here shaddah is missing.

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I was not making any mistakes while reciting from my Quran, because I used to listen to the audio of Qari al-Ghamdi while holding my own Mushaf. Before I never recited from tanzil.net .

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 04:53

Where did u get this quran from? Is it yellow or orange? Does your Quran has translation too?

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 04:59

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Not yellow or orange. Simple in black words. Yes, with translation.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 05:07

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Where did u get the Quraan from. Pls post an image of the Jild.. front and back.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 4th July 2014 06:20

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