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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 8th March 2014 20:05
I wasn't referring to to all Saudi ulamah..only ulamah of the two harams that's Makkah al-Mukarrama and Madina al-Munawwara there are great Sunni scholars till this day living in these lands despite the tight vigilance of the government and Salafi/Wahhabi oriented circles.


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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 9th March 2014 22:34

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Keep living in your dreams, brother...

Shaykh (Mufti) Hussain Kadodia (HA):

I meant he is a "Hanbali" by name, like most other Wahhabi's, who study Hanbali fiqh, however adopt the "we follow Qur'an and Sunnah" methodology and repeatedly speak out against taqlid.

As for his being a hardcore Wahhabi, he is probably the most outspoken from all the Imams of the Haram against Ash'ari's.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 09:43
ROFL, Michelin Tyres.

I have seen non Saudi scholars wearing that red checkered scarf; New muslims, New tablighis also have the scarf on their head.
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 09:52
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I have seen new Muslims and Tableeghees listening to Music so does it make it right? :P

If eating at McDonalds represents the worst of Capitalist then Michealin Tyre represents the worst of Bandit Kings inflicting damage upon Islam so as a principled person shouldn't wear it.
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 10:04
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Hmmm. Only today I came to know that the red scarf was used to identify Saudis.
On the other side non Saudi scholars have this scarf, dont want to name them & the thread gets derailed. Confused!

Related Fatwa,
islamqa.org/hanafi/askimam/4223
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:33
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Shaykh (Mufti) Hussain Kadodia (HA):

I meant he is a "Hanbali" by name, like most other Wahhabi's, who study Hanbali fiqh, however adopt the "we follow Qur'an and Sunnah" methodology and repeatedly speak out against taqlid.

As for his being a hardcore Wahhabi, he is probably the most outspoken from all the Imams of the Haram against Ash'ari's.




Anyone who is against Taqleed is ghair muqalid full stop.. and not a hanbali..if that is who you are referring to, why would sheikh Shuraim visit Deoband ??when visiting Darul uloom Deoband emphasis on the Importance of Dawah and Tableegh, praised Darul uloom Deoband and said any Islamic service and Dawah in India without taking name of Darul Uloom Deoband is incomplete on his visit to Darul uloom Deoband in 2012
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:39

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  1. So do you disbelieve Shaykh (Mufti) Hussain Kadodia (HA)?
  2. OR do you want to be humble and admit, I don't understand this?
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:43
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Sorry but that statement means nothing, if that's the case then many kuffar presidents have visited Al Azhar university and mosques around the world I believe as well ?


Also bro Muadh showed you the statement of a mufti, so I don't know why your still in denial for some reason. Have you read the statement of his or is your logic based on Sheikh Shuraym visiting Deoband ?

If that's the case then when Shaykh Sudais visits the UK he usually comes and chills with Shaykh Jihani (ex Libyan footballer) who is also a hardcore tableeghi, does that make Shaykh Sudais a tableeghi now ?
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:48
When Shaykh Sudais visits London, his main stay is at the Ahle Hadith Masjid where Shaykh Hassan is the Imam who's son also became the Imam and started propagating the Darwin theory. Khair, the mosque got rid of him very quickly. But it remains Ahle Hadith / Ghair muqallid.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:49

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Every self-respesting Deobandi should read this and be warned as to why these Saudees MUST BE BANNED from visiting Deobandees.

  1. Saudi Ulamah visit Deobandees
  2. SAME Saudi Ulamah then go back and issue Fatwaas of deviance.
  • Shaykh Shuraim visits Deoband
  • Shaykh Shuraim (HA) believes that Asharees/Maturedees are misguided

At every platform, every conferences, every award our Ulamah should Boycott Saudi Scholars and ask for explaination of their Fatwaas.

Guillable Deobandees...Sufees are the worst! They worship these Saudees and then go from forum to forum posting explaination as to how they are the good Sufees and Saudees mean bad Sufees

I am not even a Sufi but this is amazing, how did we get to be this STUPID in this Ummah? Saudees have been taking the Ummah for a ride for nearly 90 years!!

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They visit Deobandees in India/Pakistan that's why Indian/Pakistani Deobandees think that Saudi Ulamah are "not Ahl-e-Hadeeth" you can read books upon books on this in Urdu.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:53
If you guys any proof against the imam ..let me see it...why would salafi's praise Tableeghi jamat..praise Darul uloom deoband???

Dawah and Tableegh

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:53
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Are you better in English or Urdu?
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 22:01
English please..will be back tomorrow inshallah.
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 22:09

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Ok Hazrat,

Lets take it in very small steps.

  1. Tableeghi Jamaat is a movement devoid of OFFICIAL Aqeedah or Madhab and anybody anywhere can be part of it anywhere. Its a Dawah movement towards Sunnah
  2. Doebandees on the other hand have 2 characterstics and 1 smaller one:
    1. Ashari/Maturdi
    2. Taqleed Shaksi of Hanafi Madhab
    3. Tassawuff

Give me REFERENCE to a single official Saudi Fatwa approving 1, 2 or 3 (above). I have NEVER come across a single official Saudi Fatwa of any Imam (of Haram), any Scholar, any Da'ee, any Islamic university graduate (of any importance) approving anything (1, 2 or 3), in fact I can give you Fatwa after Fatwa after Fatwa dissapproving them.

Here I am not discussing whether they are wrong or right.

Forget tomorrow, take the whole next year for an answer!

If after ONE YEAR SEARCHING you cannot give me ONE FATWA then answer this question:

  1. Why do our Ulamah host these people who come and visit us and then stab us in the back when they go back?
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2014 15:50
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