Truth About Professional Amils - Mufti Tariq Masood (URDU)

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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd August 2015 19:46

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brother ArtistDigital.

anyways, i cannot understand brothers who keep going on about the need for aamils and who keeping talking about this subject to everyone in the open. the ummah needs politicans and female professionals, so should Ulama stop talking about the dangers of getting involved in poltiics or letting muslim girls study in universities and then work?

ultimately, ulama and mentors who are keeping watch over thousands of people, if not tens or hundreds of thousands, know better about the need for amils than we do. if they speak against amaliyat, then i'm inclined to follow their opinion.

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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd August 2015 19:50

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Brother Arts digital as far as I know even brother dr76 rated him for his knowledge, and you just branded him a bidatti? Well done.

Yeah those books mentioned above must have come out of thin air as totally this science don't exist according to some right :)

Believe what you want brother, the other view/side of the coin has been mentioned above.

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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd August 2015 20:06

We just gonna go round in circles!

There is such a thing, just that it wasn't given a specific terminology in Hadith. We all know that magic was worked on the Prophet Muhammad (saw)

and there was a cure, A HALAL cure.

Same as Taraweeh, there are no specific words mentioned by the Prophet (saw)

using this word, it was an act which was given a word later. Same goes for tassuwuf and so on.

There are fakes, and there are true Ulama who can help. Just don't get lost in their triangle, seek authentic people not cowboys and inshaAllah we can all carry on with other threads.

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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd August 2015 21:23

An amil, with trimmed beard and long hairs, has come as a guest in some ones house in our colony.

I can't say that whether he is spoiling the believes of my colony fellows or he is just harnessing their previously spoiled believes to make money?

Our local masjid's Moulana sahb gave a long lecture to muqtadis during ramazan about professional amils, similar to this Mufti Tariq Masood db's lecture, but still most of these muqtadis visited that amil.

Surprising thing is that more than 50 % of colony people visited that amil, and of course they visited him because they believe that someone might have done something on them. This wawasa is induced by these professional amils, and it is the only way they can make money. We really need to oppose this fraudulent sect.

Remember doing amaliyaat is something else and adopting it as an occupation is something else.

I have never seen any ahle haq Moulana or any ahle haq Sheikh/Peer sahb, who recommend his followers, students or mureeds to become an amil. It is a famous saying among mashaikh "Amil na bano kamil bano".

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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 4th August 2015 06:36

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Brothers please give your suggestions and opinions regarding this fitnah!!!

More than 95% people here have visited that amil, many had rohani operation for their ailment and claim that they got cured and found nothing in ultrasound after that operation.
I myself can't deny the reality of getting cured on the face of the guy who himself claims that he is cured.
This thing, that any one who get rohani operatoin from him is cured reminds me of the fitnah of dajjal.
If he was a doctor, I would have no problem, but he is doing this in the name of deen.
That amil takes no money from anyone and people have got mo'taqid of him. He is from silsilah e saifiya (barelwi).
Anyone who got cured by him will easily accept his maslak......

Please give your opinions and suggestions. What should be my response if anyone asks me "I am sick, should I visit that moulana as anyone who is operated by him is cured?"

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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 4th August 2015 09:26

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Please give your opinions and suggestions. What should be my response if anyone asks me "I am sick, should I visit that moulana as anyone who is operated by him is cured?"

First ask them what they have done regarding asking from Allah, since a Muslim repeats this daily It is You we worship and You we ask for help. Loading Qur'aan Verse

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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 4th August 2015 11:23

I believe this thread should be taken into consideration....

www.muftisays.com/forums/27-sharing-portal/4563-on-the-pe...

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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 5th August 2015 23:22

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Since quite sometime i had been thinking what to write after listening to this audio few weeks back.

Many of whom who have listened to the clip may have had problems comprehending since urdu is not the language of many here.

So i have transcripted some portions with translation. The discussion can come later Insha Allah since its quite late in the night here.

04:50 Hazrat Umar ne khat likha darya e nil eke naam ..tujhe chalna hai to chal.. nahin chalna hai to hume teri koee zaroorat nahin hai.. bhook se marjayenge.. aisi ki taisi.. samajh me arahi baat ke nahin arahi.. chalna hai to chal warna.. kahte haina patli gali se nikal.. jab ye khat darya me gaya..

Darya chal padha.. kyon.. kya darya ko khat samajh me aaya.. darya to bejaan cheez hai.. hota ye hai ke jinnat aur shayateen..aisi jagah par tasarrufaat karte hain.. jahan unko yaqeen hota hai ke logon ka aqeeda aur nazarya kharab hojayega.. jinnat us darya ko rok dete the..

jab koee ladki zabah karke daali jaati to jinnat us darya ke paani ko chchor dete the.. jab jinnat mayoos jogayen ke ye koee ulta kaam nahin karenge to jinnat apni filen lappet ke boriya bistar gol karke kaheen aur office laga lete hain..

Translation:

Hazrat Umar رضي الله عنه wrote a letter addressing River Nile that if you wish to flow then do so, else we have no need of you.. we shall die of hunger.. so be it.. do you understand what iam saying or not..

If you wish to flow then flow.. else do we not say escape from the narrow alley.. When the letter reached River Nile it began to flow. Why..? Did the Nile understand the letter? A River is a lifeless being.
It so happens that Jinnat and Shayateen cast their influence (do Tasarruf) at such places where they are convinced that the Aqeeda and outlook of common folks would be corrupted.

Jinnat would halt the flow of River Nile. Whenever a girl was sacrificed and flung into the river they would release the water. When the Jinnat are dismayed that the people would not attempt anything adverse, they pack up their files and beddings and set up office elsewhere.

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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 5th August 2015 23:24

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To aap ye Taweez aur ye paleete waleeten jitney hain utha ke ek dafa kachre me fenk do.. bolo jis jin ne aana hai aana hai.. jis chudayl ne aana hai ajaye.. nahin darenge.. ek baar ye azam karliye to saare jin aur chudayl apna office nazimabad se khatam karke ya to patel pada ki taraf..aurangi town ki taraf kaheen aur office bana lenge.. aap ki jaan chchor denge..

Translation:

So whatever Taweez etc you have.. for once, just throw it all away to trash. Say which ever Jinn wishes to come let it come.. let any witch come over. We shall not be frightened. Once we affirm this, then all the Jinn and witches would close down their offices at Nazimabad and move to Patel Pada or Aurangi Town and leave you alone.

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#55 [Permalink] Posted on 5th August 2015 23:25

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06:32:

Aur agar aap in chakkaron me padhe ke fulaan jagah ek buzurg baithe hain.. vo kuch aisa padhte hain.. to khuda ki qasam qayamat tak in chakkaron me padhe rahoge.. aur is bhawar se bahar nahin nikloge..

Translation:

And if you get indulged in them, that a certain Buzurg resides there & he chants such a thing.. then by Allah you shall be entangled with them till Qiyamah. That you shall never be released from this whirlpool.

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#56 [Permalink] Posted on 5th August 2015 23:29

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Ye jo taweez gande wale hote hain,Ruhani ilaaj wale, Ruhaniyat ke naam pe risale nikal rahe, ye chahe barelwi hon, chahe ahle hadees ho, chahe deobandi ho, chahe Tableeghi ho, chahe kisi bade buzurg ke khaleefa ho, ye sab do number hote hain. Ma’zarat ke saath thodi clear cut baat kar raha hoon. Saare ek hi jaise hote hain. Kakh bhi nahin aata, kuch bhi nahin pata inko..

Translation:

These people who practice Amaliyat.. write Taweezat, Periodicals are being published in the name of Spiritual treatment. Let them be Barelwi or Ahle Hadeeth or Deobandi..Tableeghi.. or even a Khalifa of any big Buzurg They are ALL dodgy.
With apologies iam speaking in a clear cut way. They are All Alike. They know Nothing.

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#57 [Permalink] Posted on 5th August 2015 23:31

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Abh do number ke do matlab hain, ek to ye hai ke ye hote hi fraudi hai.. fraudi ka matlab samajhte ho..jo ye log hote hain.. fraudi ka matlab unko pata hota hai ke hume kuch nahin aata.. phir bhi aise hi phenkte rahte hain baat. Ye ayat itni dafa padhlo to ye kaam ho jayega.. tujhe kisne bataya ke hojayega bhai..

Shaadi nahin horahi surah muzammil padh liya Karen subah sham..kahaan aap ne padha kya daleel hai iski.. aise hi kitaaben chap rahe hen.. baaz dafa to aisa hota hai fraudi to nahin hote.. hote nek hain..

Translation:

Now there are two meanings to do number (being dodgy). one that they are plain frauds.
Do you know what Fraudy means.. what these people are.. Fraudy means that these people are aware that they know nothing.. and yet they bluff around. Recite this Ayah so many times.. and such task may be accomplished..who told you that it shall be done brother?

When someone has problems getting married recite Surah Muzammil twice daily.. where have you read this.. what daleel (Proof) do you have.. they are just printing books..Sometimes it so happens they are not frauds but Pious.

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#58 [Permalink] Posted on 5th August 2015 23:34

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Waqa’ee nek hote hain buzurg hote hain.. Allah wale hote hain.. lekin jab ye chille karte hain na roohani ilaaj seekhne ke liye.. chalees din guzarte hain usme inka dimaaghi tawazun kharab hojata hai..

Isliye unko is dimaaghi tawazun kharab hone ki wajah se baaz aisi cheezen nazar arahi hai jo haqeeqat me hoti nahin hai.. pagal ko dekho na baith ke bate kar raha hoga.. kabhi pagal dekha hai aap logon ne..

Bhai pagal khane chale jayen.. aap dekhen pagal baith ke yuun kar raha hoga..kisiko dant raha hoga yun kar raha hoga.. halanke uske samne koee nahin hota.. waja isliye ke usko apne dimaghi tawazun ke kharab hone ki wajah se baaz aisi cheezen nazar arahi hai jo haqeeqat me hai nahin..

Translation:

They are indeed Pious, Buzurgs, Ahlullah. But when they observe Chilla (forty days in seclusion) to learn spiritual treatment, after forty days they lose their mental balance.

So after losing their mental balance they tend to see such things which do not exist in reality.

You can see a mad man talking to himself.. have you people seen a lunatic..? brothers could visit a mental asylum..you could see a lunatic doing this.. Scolding someone.. While in reality there is none before him. Reason that his mental balance being disturbed, he sees things which aren’t there in reality.

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#59 [Permalink] Posted on 5th August 2015 23:36

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Bhai kya hogaya kis tarah se main samjhaun.. ye baat main ghol ke dimagh me utarun.. to in ruhani ilaaj walon ko khwa vo kitne hi buzurg ho.. ye buzurg ho sakte hain nek ho sakte hain Thajjud guzaar bhi hosakte hain.. Allah wale bhi hosakte hain.. baaz taweez ke paise bhi nahin lete Ruhani ilaaj se.. balke paise dete bhi nahin.. sab kuch hosakte hai.. Magar pagal saare hote hain.. ye bata doon aap ko..

Translation:

Brother, what has happened.. How shall I make you understand?. How do I stir this matter in your minds. That those who practice Ruhani Ilaaj (Amaliyat), Howsoever Buzurg they might be. They could be Buzurg, They could be Pious.. Those who pray Tahajjud. They could be Ahlullah. Some even do not take any money for spiritual treatment or may even give money. All such are possible. Yet All of them are Lunatics. iam making this clear.

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#60 [Permalink] Posted on 5th August 2015 23:39

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Inko baaz dafa cheezen nazar aati isliye ke inhone chille kiye hote hain na..jo baith ke amaliyat paleete waleete jo bhi inka hota hai hisaab kitaab.. uski vajah se ek normal aadmi abnormal ho chuka hota hai… khuda ki qasam abhi naam lene ke dil chahta hai.. kaun kaun is mulk me nek hai magar pagal hai..

lekin fitna na khada hojaye.. aur uske pagal pane ke waqiat sunaun..dalail ke saath baat karun aap ke saamne.. naam leke bataun fulan buzurg bhi pagal hai… mazarat ke saath.. buzurg hai magar pagal hai.. aur daleel bhi dun pagal hone ke daleel kya hai unke.. lekin naam lene me kya hai..fitne ka khauf hai.. ke unke aqeedatmand bidak na jayen.. apne qareebi rishtedaron ko dekha hai pagal hain vo.. lekin nek hai.. do number nahin hai.. magar hain kya..pagal hai..

Translation:

Sometimes these people see things since they observed Chilla.. while they did Amaliyat Taweez etc whatever things they do. Due to which a Normal person has now Become Abnormal.

By Allah..I wish to take their names.. who in this country are pious but lunatics. Just that a fitnah does not erupt. That I may narrate tales of their lunacy, I shall speak with dalail before you. I can drop names that such a Buzurg is a lunatic..with apologies.

But whats there in taking names.. apprehension of fitnah that their votaries might be offended.
I have seen my close relatives, they are lunatics but pious. They aren’t dodgy..yet they are lunatics.

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