Truth About Professional Amils - Mufti Tariq Masood (URDU)

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#136 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 09:33

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#137 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 12:03

Coincidentally, someone just sent this for a laugh.

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#138 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 14:33

According to what I understand:
Mufti sahb didn't insult ahlullah ma'azallah. To stop people from attending professional amils (please listen to the bayan carefully to understand what mufti sahb means by professional amil before disliking), he got a bit straight forward and said that any one who has taken amaliyaat as his profession and sees things that are not actually present (again listen to bayan carefully, this is what he was saying), then he is mad. Then he more clarified it by categorically telling that by this he didn't meant just fraudsters, but also pious, even if he is tahajjud guzaar (and their is nothing wrong in it as even pious can get mad by excessive zikr and amaliyaat as Hakeem Akhtar RhA too mentions in his bayan and recommends moderation in Zikr).

So concluding that "MUFTI (Sahb or HA or db missing every where) CALLS AHLULLAH MAD", is a high level of lie on Mufti Sahb db. And insulting an alim is also GUSTAKHI OF AHLULLAH. Disagree but don't insult. Please.

So pasting a blot of GUSTAKHI (like barelwis) is very easy, by taking things out of context and twisting to meanings that are not meant.

Please if there are two meanings of anything, as a Muslim we are bound to take the positive and leave the negative.
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#139 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 16:45

When a person is certainly affected by Sihr. He reads manzil, ruqya etc. nothing is helping. There is a professional Aamil, he removes the sihr. The patient doesn't care how the sihr was removed pays a fees happily.

Let us comment on this Aamil.

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#140 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 16:48

I missed a point, a non-professional expert has knowledge of Sihr but he refuses to remove the sihr. And asks the patient for sabr and tawakkul.

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#141 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 17:35

If I, as a layman can name you drunk Ahlullah, why can't you accept the analogy (description) given by the Shaykh of deluded/fanatics/lunatical Ahlullah?

if I can prove drunk Ahlullah, I see no reason why you can't accept why others have understood the talk the way it was meant to be as pointed out by bro Abdullah 1 above.

if I win this challenge, you must accept what is being attempted to be portrayed.

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#142 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 17:50

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The only issue as Bro Jinn said are the "Generic Statements".. Painting one and all with the same brush.. what he has highlighted in Post 135

If he has issues with a certain Amil.. name him.. bring him out in the open.. let the Public know.. calling everyone Lunatics does not help.. Simple as that..

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#143 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 17:58

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Ok.. Change the name of the speaker to Tausif ur Rahman.. & see the rain of profanities here.. would u accord the same Taweel to him..?

Adl is Adl.. be it a Deobandi or anyone else.. The balance shouldnt waver just because he from Jamiatur Rasheed..

what he has uttered is in his open clear langauage.. ur free to make whatever Taweel u want just because he is ur "Hazrat".

duas..

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#144 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 18:02

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Exactly the reason why I made THIS post..! Masha Allah.. the Philosophers are coming out quite late..

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#145 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 18:34

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Do you accept that as not being a gustakhi if what Mufti sahb said was same as I said in my previous post (which you are calling taweel)?

JazakAllah.

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#146 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 19:59

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Bro are you here for the giggles or something ? because reading your posts it seems that way.
Trust me I am not (we have social media for that), I sincerely apologize if I sound like I am doing so.
For you I would like to repeat as well, only comment if you've heard the lecture and know about amaliyat/sihr etc otherwise please don't.
As I have written before I have heard the lecture and a few others on the same topic by the same Mufti plus a couple others of his on different subjects. As for knowledge on amaliyaat point out one place where I have claimed something about amaliyaat from my own head. Moreover with all due respect you don't seem to have concrete knowledge yourself, either that or you are hiding your knowledge as you are not answering my questions.
In regards to the above comment, let me ask you something, have you ever personally dealt with severe sihr ( and by that I don't mean that you had a nasty headache one day, fell down the stairs, or had a random bad day, or had a doner from a unknown place and got the runs for the next few days ) So have you or know anyone who has ?
With sihr I know of people who have been told or they claim that they are suffering from sihr. Was it sihr? Allahualam. I have however seen someone possessed by a jinn and know of many people who have been possessed by them. What about you?
Let's say you know someone who has for instance..how many have been able to deal with it just through falak and nas ?? Please tell me ?
Gonna answer this one in a separate post because it deserves one.
Shifa is in Surah Fatiha and their is no denial to that, you can even say Bismillah or the name of Alllah and get shifa if said with conviction and sincerity and firmness, there's a few reasons to why it's not working and i'm not going there yet.

Point is how many try and how many get shifa ? Sadly there might be only a handful of people who can just read Fatiha in the world right now and get shifaa, doesn't work for everyone my brother and many many try without getting no where. But what does work is heavy doasge and that's prescribed and often needed and then it begins to work somewhat but dependent on other things.
Will come back to this one as well.
As to why then that's a different story altogether.

There was a time when mashaykh of old could just by looking at you remove your sihr, why doesn't happen no more ? Why isn't once falak and nas and fatiha enough ? Why is that you might be reading on yourself and it's having no effect ? We can't say there is no power in Quran, because it's the same as it was 1400 years ago, why is that when Abdullah bin Masood ra read an ayah in a person's ear, some say he killed the jinn by reading one ayah and by blowing and some say he removed his jinn, why doesn't one ayah like that work today ?
Because we lack Iman and Yakeen my dear brother!!!
All valid questions.

As to why, there's a few reasons but that's a different topic. So yh I hope my comments make sense now.
No its not a different topic please explain and don't back out of this one.
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And brother if you read my posts properly you will see that I am not totally agreeing with him rather trying to find out something through constructive criticism. Please don't take anything personal and I apologize if I have hurt you in any way or manner.

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#147 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 20:13

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Let's say you know someone who has for instance..how many have been able to deal with it just through falak and nas ?? Please tell me ?
Gonna answer this one in a separate post because it deserves one.

"Just through" Have you lost the plot? We are talking about the Quran you know!!! Which if revealed to a mountain it would crumble. Is the importance of quran "just" to you?! Do you not know that the cure for sihr is in these surahs?

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#148 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 20:24

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Answering the question the answer is none. Why because they also regard the kalam of Allah as JUST. Tell them to do so they will ignore you and go to an amil (not claiming that the amil was wrong) anyway and guess what? Those symptoms have not been cured. My guess is that either it was not sihr or they did not have yakeen in the elaaj or that something was wrong with the amil or shifa was not destined to them by Allah.

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#149 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2015 21:58

I maybe wrong but I have noticed at times where Quran does not have any effect on an effected person, solely because they have firm belief elsewhere, either in taweez, amulets or cure in any other form such as people and objects. May Allah protect us from this.