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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2009 04:32
I'm an American. I was raised to be a Christian. But after years of study in Islam in the university, I've felt compelled to convert to Islam. There's something about the language of the Holy Qur'an that brings a tear to my eye. It's almost as if I'm in a trance, and I have to listen to the recitation over and over again; but I do not understand what is being said; but it is nice to hear. But I do not think other naturally born Muslims would accept me, and so I feel as if I can never achieve the same enlightenment as a true Muslim. I know Islam is a religion of peace and it is accepting of all those who wish to become True Believers, but in practice (politically), I worry that I cannot obtain the full experience of what it is like to be a Muslim.

My question is: How do Muslims perceive non-Muslim converts today? If a convert wishes to perform the Hajj later on in life, will the native Muslim people accept him as a fellow Muslim?

Thank you in advance!
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2009 09:40

despite what each persons idea is, whether they are muslim or non-muslim, islam teaches that we should have respect and show kindness to everyone.


no matter how a person is percieved, their is only one thing that really matters and that is our relationship with our Creator, and Allah ta'aala judges those through a persons piety regardless of race, gender, status and wealth.


as a born muslim i have found i am still judged by other muslims, so my religion does not come into it, i think its just human nature, this attitude can only change through implementing islam in its entirety. i would not worry too much about other people. although the grass always seems greener on the other side, its not until you are on the other side that you realise that the grass isnt always green when it comes to dealing with muslims and non-muslims alike, unfortunately it wont always be a positive experience.


we should only care what Allah ta'aala thinks of us, as long as we dont cause any harm, injustice, oppression, hatred, malice, etc. towards anyone else we dont have anything to worry about.


politically, same as with any other person practicing any religion, their are different natured people with various different habits, views and understanding. if a person wants to progress in becoming close to Allah ta'aala, then we should not allow other people to interfere in the process.


Islam is a beautiful religion, the more we learn, understand and implement the more we feel drawn to it. dont worry too much of having experiences. the main thing is that we abide by the laws of our Creator, whether we experience anything positive or not. our final goal is the pleasure of our Creator, inshAllah. often the mistake comes when islam is judged by its people and not by its teachings, we all have strengths and weaknesses.


dont think ive done justice to your questions, but just wanted to share my view. thankyou for posting.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2009 14:47
Welcome to the forum thewander.

From what I've seen, new Muslims are shown more respect because they came to the truth. The fact that all the companions of the Prophet came from other religions also makes the Islam of new Muslims stronger and many do realize that.

I can understand why you feel that you wont achieve the enlightenment of a born Muslim but the idea is incorrect. A Muslim feels according to his deeds, actions, life style etc. If you choose to live by Islamic laws, Will of Allah, the Prophets way then you feel far more closer to Islam and far more enlightened than millions of born Muslims.

Answer to your last question:
Some view new Muslims as new Muslims and try to help, making it easy
Some view new Muslims as a normal thing nowadays and treat you any next person passing by (same as other Muslims)
Some try to help so much that make Islam sound scary, confusing and impossible.

In conclusion, everyone perceives differently but in every way positive. It is impossible that you would be seen as an outsider or different. It is very sad if a new Muslim is seen that way but Alhamdulillah i've never experienced such a thing. They are all treated kindly and accepted instantly.

I hope this helps and welcome to Muftisays
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2009 15:01
Asalamalikum. I hope you dont mind me asking brother yasin,are you a revert? thewander,i dont know about other people,but i have lots of respect for the new converts,they practice as been asked to do from Quran and sunnah,they dont bring culture tradition in their religion.so peace and respect to all my convert brothers and sisters.i love and respect you all for the sake of Allah.
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2009 00:20
Wa Alaykum Salam,

No I am not a revert. Sorry when i said "experienced" I meant it from a third persons view, not personal experience.

Wassalam
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2009 12:24
Mashallah Taalibah you explained beautifully ! Its true what matters most is ones relationship with our Creator ! my best friend is revert Alhumdulillah ! I thank Allah sooo much for giving me a friend that I can talk about everything ! But my revert friend does say some muslims do treat her differently but moreoften she is welcomed with open arms and treat her with upmost respect ! Tell u the truth I love and respect reverts to Islam I have learnt sooo much from them and made my Deen more stronger Alhumdulillah !
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2009 19:20
As-salaamu'alaykum wa raHmatullah

Alhamdulillah, others haveaddressed your question quite well. Certainly, the overwhelmingmajority of born-Muslims have no less than absolute admiration and lovefor their revert brethren. May Allah increase us all in love and unity.Aameen.

Just want to add a few points following on from your initial post, 'thewander'.

Firstly, the crux of the 'full experience' of a Mu'min (believer),has to be the moment when one sincerely declares their belief in Allahas the One and Only Deity, and Muhammad (peace and blessings be uponhim) as His messenger. As a revert, you must have made that declarationwith deep conviction after contemplation that many born-Muslims maynever have undertaken. We must never underestimate the weight of thosewords, and should replenish our faith often through their repetition.

Secondly, with regards understanding the words of Allah - the Qur'an,the journey of seeking sacred knowledge is life-long, and the study ofthe beautiful language is arduous, but full of delight. Embark on itpromptly, in whatever capacity you can, and in due course you will berewarded with the sheer exultation of discovery, in shaa Allah !

There are many online institutes which offer courses in the Arabic language including:

May Allah grant us all the ability to fulfil His command in everyaspect of our lives; grant us all His closeness; let us pass from thisworld with true faith, and be amongst the inhabitants of Jannah in thehereafter! Aaameen.

Was-salaam
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 17th May 2009 02:41
Thanks for the warm welcome and advice! It is greatly appreciated.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 21st March 2010 18:03
Hi thewander,

Have you accepted Islam?I am interested in it.Wanna know more about it.
waiting to hear from you.

Thanks
Joe
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 19th May 2010 14:06
I posted here because I also have somewhat the same concern as what the topic says... My bestfriend is a Muslim. And the fact that i am a Christian, she somehow gives me answer to some sensitive questions as honestly as she can. Now back what this topic is telling me, I once asked my bestfriend what could be my status "if" I will be converted to Islam. She answered me, I guess with all her honesty, that converted Islam is really treated differently compared to those who were born Islam. She actually set Muslim man marrying a Christian (but later converted) as an example to justify it.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 19th May 2010 16:30

Yasin wrote:
Welcome to the forum thewander.

From what I've seen, new Muslims are shown more respect because they came to the truth. The fact that all the companions of the Prophet came from other religions also makes the Islam of new Muslims stronger and many do realize that.

I can understand why you feel that you wont achieve the enlightenment of a born Muslim but the idea is incorrect. A Muslim feels according to his deeds, actions, life style etc. If you choose to live by Islamic laws, Will of Allah, the Prophets way then you feel far more closer to Islam and far more enlightened than millions of born Muslims.

Answer to your last question:
Some view new Muslims as new Muslims and try to help, making it easy
Some view new Muslims as a normal thing nowadays and treat you any next person passing by (same as other Muslims)
Some try to help so much that make Islam sound scary, confusing and impossible.

In conclusion, everyone perceives differently but in every way positive. It is impossible that you would be seen as an outsider or different. It is very sad if a new Muslim is seen that way but Alhamdulillah i've never experienced such a thing. They are all treated kindly and accepted instantly.

I hope this helps and welcome to Muftisays



Your post is somewhat confusing but the above reply is the true picture of the situation...i have had the good fortune to know and teach many revert sisters and to me they are my own sisters whereby i share in their joy and griefs. Personally i feel honoured to know and help. I pray you find the truth

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