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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2021 19:55
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Any details on which vaccine it was?

What is the definition of “common” for frequency of reported adverse effects?

Any further details on how suspicion in contributing to causality of death was established?

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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2021 21:55
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Pfizer and BioNTech are working with the Norwegian regulator to investigate the deaths in Norway, Pfizer said in an e-mailed statement. The agency found that "the number of incidents so far is not alarming, and in line with expectations," Pfizer said.

This short paragraph says a lot and unfortunately, this is common knowledge and expected.

"Not alarming an in line with expectations"

But for me, the fact that they were Frail and Elderly surely would've been a decision that should not have been taken lightly. But I'm not qualified to have a say.
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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2021 05:42
We have members on this forum who are qualified doctors. Perhaps one of them could weigh in with their opinions.
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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2021 18:47
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@abuzayd, this is your mindset. Closed!
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Brother super glue is absolutely right about me. No amount of evidence in any way, shape or form is going to get me to change my opinion, and since this is not an issue of either aqeedah or fiqh, i hope you'll allow me my ignorance and obstinacy


Although this is a different subject matter. What guarantee is there you will even take their advise, regardless of whatever it is.
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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2021 03:35
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Salam

I'm flattered you kept that quote for reference. Perhaps, remember me in your prayers as well?
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2021 12:26
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In my profession, memory is essential.

Analysis is essential

Understanding is essential

You ask if the Doctors of this forum could give their insight.

Have your considered their consequences if they were to speak out if they knew anything?

If they speak out or speak up, they could put their own lives at risk and potentially be struck of from their profession.

Have you thought of that?

If they are stuck off, your mentor Muadh_Khan will dismiss everything they say because of it.


I'll keep my qualifications in my filing cabinet. This will protect me, my profession, my name but most importantly it will help others see the reality that is hitting the world.

So many people all falling for the coming of the anti Christ
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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 25th January 2021 15:03
www.arabnews.com/node/1797626/world

UK faith leaders crucial to vaccine uptake, minister says

LONDON: Britain’s Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick has said that faith leaders will play a “vital role” in ensuring vaccine uptake across the country as he visited the UK’s first vaccination center to open in a mosque.

Jenrick’s comments come amid growing fears that Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic (BAME) Britons are rejecting vaccines against the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) due to conspiracy theories being spread on WhatsApp and social media platforms.

A study by the Royal Society for Public Health found that just 57 percent of BAME people would take the vaccine, compared with 79 percent of white Britons.

Jenrick met with the imam and other community members at the Al-Abbas Islamic Center in Balsall Heath, Birmingham, where a new vaccination center has been set up.

The minister said: “It is absolutely brilliant to see faith communities like this stepping up and playing their part in the vaccine program. We have to build trust, ensure that we counter misinformation and ensure that everyone, regardless of their faith, regardless of what community they’re from, gets access to the program.”

Imam Qari Asim, chairman of the Mosques and Imams National Advisory Board, said some people who initially resisted getting a COVID-19 vaccine have now decided to get an inoculation because of the center opening at Al-Abbas Islamic Centre.

Asim, who is leading an initiative to get imams and mosques to tackle anti-vaccination conspiracy theories, said: “We are urging places of worship and community hubs to be used as vaccination centres to inspire confidence in communities.


“As an Imam, my message is simple: Do not trust fake news.”

He added: “Verify before you amplify. Taking the vaccine is currently the only available solution to defeating COVID-19, to save thousands of precious lives and be with our loved ones again.”

Jonathan Kitson, a fellow at the London-based Adam Smith Institute, told Arab News: “An urgent and broad vaccine rollout is needed to end this pandemic. If we are to successfully overcome the challenges of COVID-19, the government must ensure that all religious communities are given the vaccine.”

He added: “Faith leaders must challenge any conspiracy theories about vaccinations head on to prevent a limited rollout of inoculations.”

Dr. Stuart Ritchie, a lecturer at King's College London, told Arab News: "Despite a lot of the rumours circulating, the evidence shows that all the vaccines in the UK so far are safe and effective. The only way to put this pandemic behind us is if the vast, vast majority of people in the country get vaccinated — so getting the vaccine to all communities and minorities is absolutely crucial."

Jenrick said he hoped more vaccination centers would open up in cathedrals, synagogues and mosques: “Faith leaders are helping build trust in the community and saving lives by encouraging take-up of the vaccine.”

He added: “The more that we are able to do that, the quicker we will be able to lift these restrictions.”

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This Imaam unfortunately is very moisten and has fallen for the non sense pushed out, he should do as his Deen expects of him and that is to investigate and verify information.

He could start be watching the videos shared on this forum.

www.muftisays.com/forums/93-truth-or-hoax--islamic-topics...
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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 25th January 2021 16:14
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Taking the vaccine is currently the only available solution to defeating COVID-19, to save thousands of precious lives and be with our loved ones again

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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 25th January 2021 20:39
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This Imaam unfortunately is very moisten and has fallen for the non sense pushed out, he should do as his Deen expects of him and that is to investigate and verify information.

Moisten?

Typo I guess. Mistaken or Misled? But lol Moisten fits well too :)
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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 29th January 2021 01:52
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How does a person demonstrate ability to understand something. No such thing exists.

All examination grading in academia is based on this.
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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 29th January 2021 05:26
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I'm sorry, I didn't take that into consideration.
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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd May 2021 14:28
Hotels have parties but Masjid is attacked by authorities for COVID REASONS
Anyone wanna try defend these actions in the name of a "virus" and "pandemic"?

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Bu görüntüler Çin yada İsrailden değil TÜRKİYE’den yazıklar olsun! Antalyada otelde partiler yapılıyor burda camiide vatandaşa biber gazı sıkılıyor işte ülkemizi bu zorona yalanıyla işgal ediyorlar hep anlattık komplocu dediler küfür ettiler yılmadık hala anlamadınız mı biz Türk milletini virüs olarak görüyorlar dünyanın hiç bir yerinde böyle baskılar yok asıl hedef bizlermişiz gibi çalışıyorlar


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These images are not from China or Israel, but from Turkey! Parties are held at the hotel in Antalya, but here in the mosque, citizens are sprayed with tear gas, they are invading our country with this zorona lie, we have always told them they said conspirators, they swore, did not we still understand, they see the Turkish nation as a virus.

Video: www.instagram.com/p/COaJqvGD6Q9/
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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 10th January 2022 15:14
In the beginning of the pandemic I realized that the physicians, medicine researchers and epidemiologists were there just fir the attendance record.

That would basically put the whole issue at the disposal of the Ulama.

But Ulama will always remain diffident on issues involving science their assertions, if there were assertions on their part, were not filling the void.

Last week I took my first jab because it became impossible to ignore the pressure build up for vaccination.

Today I have read the thread. Earlier I was privy to only a post or another from this thread.

At one point brother Asaaghir had asked me something about the vaccines or Covid and I had replied that I had not kept track of the developments.

To the large extent the same is true still.

Coming to Muadh Khan's performance in this thread: he did the same thing to me at one time. Our sister Bint-e-Aisha had faced him more than once on the same wicket.

I am pleasantly impressed with Maulana Yasin's insights into English language.

If brother Muadh Khan is brought back then there is this finite chance of him having a go at me.

At a conceptual level I am more or less done with my long and tedious analysis that I have been pursuing. A lot of work is still left out but I do not expect any conceptual blocks. Thus I am not left with too many ego problems and thus I'll simply back off when challenged by brother Muadh.

I do not know about others - how they will fare?

Thus it will be up to Maulana Yasin to make a decision.

Though I miss him a lot but in view of the trouble faced by brothers, sisters and administration at the moment I am not making my request.

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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 10th January 2022 16:30
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Put together facts that this Vaccine is either HARAM or HARMFUL or both.

It is proven with facts from around the world that the vaccines is harmful and thus the validity of it being Haram is strengthened!

The vaccines doesn't stop any spread of the so-called virus. This is evident now.

The vaccine doesn't stop you from testing positive for the so-called virus either, instead it weakens your own immune system.

So what has the vaccine really done? Perhaps gave people the false impression that the vaccine has saved lives, well it most definitely killed and maimed over 3 million registered people! What about the unregistered?

On the other hand, due to the false data provided, scholars wrongly labelled the vaccines as halal and permitted, whilst many more scholars were right to label them as haram! Due to this reason, there has been a huge uptake in the Muslim community and Muslim world at large - thus forcing people like yourself to be forced into a vaccine.

You've had your vaccine and may Allah protect you from any side effects. You have mentioned it's only been a week. Please do look through the various side effects and do yourself and others justice by reporting any side effects to the right department. And I pray, there aren't any.

Millions are now being forced, including hardcore anti vaxxers and vaccine hesitant individuals. This pressure is on them so they can continue to earn a living! Perhaps this would not have been the case if the scholars held on to their views and allowed for more time for the data to be revealed.

It's only been 1 year since this thread started and information has gathered very fast, much more is known about the very thing Muadh_Khan was asking for Put together facts that this Vaccine is either HARAM or HARMFUL or both.

As we know, the vaccines have been called Halal based on the facts mentioned above. Since they are not not facts, the harms of the vaccine, in millions, automatically makes the vaccine haram.

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1,876,973 REPORTS OF VACCINE ADVERSE EVENTS IN VAERS (Not including the rest of the World and this is approx 1% of reported cases only)
21,382 COVID Vaccine Reported Deaths / 30,636 Total Reported Deaths

113,303 Total COVID Vaccine Reported Hospitalizations/194,950 Total Reported Hospitalizations

1,016,999 COVID Vaccine Adverse Event Reports

Through December 31, 2021

openvaers.com/

@Muadh_Khan, under normal circumstances, a few deaths would halt any vaccination program as has been done in the past. However, this has continued to rollout despite the high numbers - despite reinfection - despite unvaccinated being less affected! I hope these are enough to be considered Harmful as your requirement!

Vaccines are not candy and I agree with you!

Even a batch of poisoned candy, 1 candy in a million would be considered unlawful to sell, forget consume!

We are in more danger from the vaccine.

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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 10th January 2022 16:31
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Sir, thank you for speaking up on this topic.
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Coming to Muadh Khan's performance in this thread: he did the same thing to me at one time. Our sister Bint-e-Aisha had faced him more than once on the same wicket.
We've all been at the receiving end of Colonel Sahab's munfarid andaaz (eccentricity).
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Thus I am not left much ego problems and thus I'll simply back off when challenged by brother Muadh.
This is excellent advice.
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Though I miss him a lot but in view of the trouble faced by brothers, sisters and administration I am not making my request.
Colonel Sahab is a prime example of "good overwhelmingly outweighs any shortcomings." We are all human, and we all have our individual failings. Our failings are not visible to us, which is why we need the company of sincere brothers to show us the mirror. I've been set right innumerable times by the kind intervention of members on this forum, and for this I am very grateful to all of them. I continue to learn from the vast and valuable resources on this forum, and this is all due to the sincere contributions of its members.
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