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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2020 14:12
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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2020 17:29

11MAR2020: Coronavirus confirmed as pandemic by World Health Organization


www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51839944

www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/3/11/21175061/who-declare...

WHO has been assessing this outbreak around the clock and we’re deeply concerned both by the alarming levels of spread and severity and the alarming levels of inaction. We have therefore made the assessment that Covid-19 can be characterized by “pandemic,” Tedros said, going on to argue that the designation did not mean the situation was hopeless: “All countries can still change the course of this pandemic.”

What is a pandemic?

To define a pandemic, we need to first define a few other terms.

First, when a disease infects a lot of people in one area in a short period of time, that’s an outbreak. For example, the US has experienced a series of measles outbreaks over the past few years, with 2019 the worst year for measles since 1992.

The measles outbreaks were quite different from a global public health perspective than the coronavirus outbreak. Measles was introduced by travelers from other countries and spread in populations with low vaccination rates, instead of jumping from animals. Since there is a vaccine, and since some people have had exposure and immunity, the measles outbreaks — while a serious public health crisis — didn’t present a risk on the scale of the coronavirus outbreak.

The novel coronavirus crisis began with an outbreak of 41 identified cases in Wuhan, China, in December that began spreading rapidly in January.

That brings us to a term you might have seen thrown around: epidemic. The World Health Organization defines an epidemic as “the occurrence in a community or region of cases of an illness ... clearly in excess of normal expectancy.” The CDC defines it as “an increase, often sudden, in the number of cases of a disease above what is normally expected” in a region. You may have heard the term used to refer to the “opioid epidemic,” or other instances of a long-existing harm becoming rapidly more deadly or more widespread.

When it comes to defining a pandemic, things get a little more complicated.

According to A Dictionary of Epidemiology, the standard reference for epidemiologists, a pandemic is “an epidemic occurring worldwide, or over a very wide area, crossing international boundaries and usually affecting a large number of people.”

A “pandemic” disease sounds much scarier than a mere “outbreak.” But it’s important to remember that “pandemic” refers to how many parts of the world are dealing with an elevated rate of the disease — and, in theory, says nothing about how serious the disease is.

In 2009, the H1N1 influenza was deemed a pandemic. One in five people worldwide caught the disease. But it was not very deadly, with an overall mortality rate estimated at 0.02 percent, so the societal disruption was limited and the loss of lives, while tragic, didn’t overwhelm medical systems.

Past coronaviruses have been dangerous, but they have not gone pandemic around the globe. The 2002-’03 SARS outbreak — primarily in China and Hong Kong, though with cases around the world — had about a 10 percent mortality rate. But as the disease was swiftly contained, it was never a pandemic, and no cases have been reported anywhere in the world since 2004.

Similarly, the even deadlier MERS coronavirus — with an approximately 35 percent mortality rate — was not very contagious and circulated only slowly. MERS originated in Saudi Arabia, and nearly all transmission has been there, though a traveler from the Middle East spurred a 2015 outbreak in South Korea. It has not been entirely eliminated, but it has never been a pandemic.

Sometimes, though, diseases have both a high mortality rate and enough transmissibility to become a pandemic. That’s the worst-case scenario for public health. The best example is the 1918-’19 influenza pandemic, which — aided by the troop movements of World War I — travelled all around the world and struck an estimated 500 million people.


At the time, that represented 25 percent of the population of the world. There are varying estimates for its lethality, but it was likely lower than that of SARS or MERS and may even have been as low as a few percentage points. That’s still high enough to have had a devastating effect on society. The death toll is estimated to have been 40 million to 50 million, though some estimates are higher.

When public health experts talk about their fear of another pandemic, they have in mind the possibility of something like the 1918-’19 influenza. That said, it’s worth noting that even a “mild” pandemic like H1N1 in 2009 is estimated to have caused up to 575,000 deaths, because when a disease infects the whole world the death toll will be very high even if the disease is fairly mild.

Why it matters that something is called a pandemic

So if the distinction between a pandemic and an epidemic isn’t how severe they are or how scared we should be, what is the distinction? Why bother categorizing diseases by how many countries are affected?

One answer is that pandemics must be battled, at the international level, significantly differently than epidemics.

When one region of the world experiences an epidemic, the rest of the world is on the sidelines. They may shut their borders to the affected region, or send help, or both. They may start making preparations in case the disease affects their own country. When coronavirus broke out in Wuhan, many of China’s neighbors sent masks. In a now-retracted Lancet paper, health workers in Wuhan asked if they’d consider sending volunteer nurses and doctors, too.

When there’s a pandemic, there are essentially no sidelines. To some extent, it no longer makes as much sense for countries to shut their borders against the affected countries, as the disease is present everywhere.

Public health officials might recommend shifting to social distancing measures — which reduce spread within a country — instead of screening efforts that try to keep the disease out of the country at all. Countries still must share medical knowledge and expertise with one another, but directing supplies to affected areas is more complicated when affected areas are all over the globe. A world fighting a pandemic is not focused on containment to a distant elsewhere but on harm-reduction at home.

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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2020 17:36
I just heard a short message by Mufti Amjad on Telegram and came across this so I thought I'd share it here as I can't post the short message.

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What is the original text of the hadeeth “There is no ‘adwa in religion” and what is meant by that?.

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Praise be to Allaah.

There are several versions of this hadeeth. Al-Bukhaari (5776) and Muslim (2224) narrated from Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There is no ‘adwa (transmission of infectious disease without the permission of Allaah) and no tiyarah (superstitious belief in bird omens), but I like good omens.” They said: What is a good omen?” He said: “A good word.”

Al-Bukhaari (5316) narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There is no ‘adwaa [contagion, transmission of infectious disease without the permission of Allaah], no tiyarah [superstitious belief in bird omens], no haamah [refers to a Jaahili Arab tradition described variously as: a worm which infests the grave of a murder victim until he is avenged; an owl; or the bones of a dead person turned into a bird that could fly], and no Safar [the month of Safar was regarded as “unlucky” during the Jaahiliyyah].”

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

The words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) “There is no ‘adwa” are general in meaning, thus the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) states that there is no contagion (without the permission of Allaah).

‘Adwa (contagion) refers to the spread of a disease from a sick person to a healthy one. What happens in the case of physical diseases may also happen in the case of psychological diseases. Hence the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that a bad companion is the like one who operates the bellows: Either he will burn your clothes, or you will notice a bad smell from him.

The words “there is no ‘adwa” include both physical and psychological diseases, even though it is more apparent with regard to physical disease.

The words “no tiyarah (lit. superstitious belief in bird omens)” refers to feeling superstitious because of something that you see, hear or know..

With regard to the words “no haamah”, haamah is interpreted in two ways:

1 – That it is a bird similar to an owl, or an owl. The Arabs believed that if a person was killed, his bones became a haamah that could fly and shriek until he was avenged. Some of them believed that the haamah was the soul of the slain person.

2 – Some of the Arabs said that the haamah was a particular bird, which they regarded as a bad omen. If it landed on the house of one of them and made a sound, they said that it was predicting a death. They believed that this was a sign that that person would die soon. All of these are undoubtedly false beliefs.

The words “No Safar” refers to the month of Safar, which the Arabs used to regard as inauspicious, especially for marriage.

And it was said that it was a stomach disease that affected camels and was transmitted from one camel to another; based on this, mentioning it after ‘adwa (contagion) comes under the heading of mentioning something specific after something general.

It is more likely that what is meant by Safar here is the month, and that what is meant by saying “No Safar” is that it is not to be regarded as inauspicious, rather it is like any other time, during which good or bad things may be decreed.

This does not mean that these things do not happen, because they do happen. Rather it is a statement that they do not have any effect. The One Who causes things to happen is Allaah. If any of these things has a known effect then that is valid and real; if any of them is imagined to have an effect, then that is invalid and false. Thus the hadeeth demonstrates that if there is a valid effect, it cannot be attributed to that thing itself (rather the One Who causes it to happen is Allaah). If the effect is merely imagined, then this hadeeth is stating that it has no effect in the first place.

With regard to the words “no contagion (‘adwa)”: contagion is something that happens, as is indicated by the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Do not put a sick one with a healthy one” i.e., the owner of a sick camel should not bring it to the owner of a healthy camel, lest the contagion be transmitted.

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Flee from the leper as you would flee from a lion.” Leprosy is a serious disease that is transmitted quickly and kills the one who catches it. It was even said that it is a plague. Hence the command to flee from the leper so that the disease will not be transmitted from him to you. This is an affirmation of the effect of contagion, but its effect is not inevitable in such a way that it affects people by itself. The command of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to flee and not to bring sick camels to where healthy camels are comes under the heading of avoiding the means (that lead to sickness), not attributing the effect to the means themselves. The means do not affect anything themselves, but we should avoid the things that may be a cause of calamity, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“and do not throw yourselves into destruction”

[al-Baqarah 2:195]

We cannot say that the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was denying the effect of contagion, because contagion is something that is proven to exist in real life and is mentioned in other ahaadeeth.

When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said “there is no ‘adwa”, a man said: “O Messenger of Allaah, the camels may be healthy like deer, then a mangy camel comes and mixes with them and they all get the mange.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “And who infected the first one?” meaning that the disease came to the first one with no contagion, rather it came from Allaah. By the same token, if it was transmitted by contagion, then it was transmitted by the command of Allaah. A thing may have a known cause or it may not have a known cause. The mange of the first one does not have a known cause, apart from the fact that it happened by the will and decree of Allaah, and the mange that came after it does have a known cause. But if Allaah wills the camel will not become mangy. Hence sometimes a camel may get the mange but then it recovers and does not die. The same happens with the plague and cholera; they may enter a house and some may get sick and die, while others are not affected at all.

We have to put our trust in Allaah and depend on Him. It was narrated that a leper came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and he took him by the hand and said, “Eat,” i.e., eat of the food that the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was eating– because of the strength of his trust in Allaah. This trust counteracts the causes of contagion.

What we have referred to above is the best way of reconciling between the ahaadeeth.

End quote from Sharh Kitaab al-Tawheed, 2/80

Based on this, what is meant by the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) “no ‘adwa (contagion)” is that disease is not transmitted from a sick person to a healthy one by itself, rather it is transmitted by the will and decree of Allaah. If a sick person mixes with healthy ones this is one of the causes of the transmission of disease. But this does not mean that it will inevitably happen, rather it only happens if Allaah wills it. Hence we often see a sick mother give birth to a healthy child, but the disease is not transmitted to the infant.

And Allaah knows best.

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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2020 21:36
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I heard the whole thing. He didn’t exaggerate the dream (by saying this is the exact cause) and he said Mufti Saiful Islam had given Interpretation of it.


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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2020 10:16
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I gathered the dream was related to a Mufti in Bangladesh, and then it went viral. Mufti saiful islam was just reporting this to Ml Limbada. And there was no interpretation of the dream. The dream narrated was very detailed.

There was nothing left to exaggerate in the Dream. I am sure many of the public who are sharing this in Ml limbada's name,(as it has now gone viral in the west through him) beleive that "this is the exact cause".
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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2020 13:18
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If they believe it to be the exact cause then they have comprehension issues. Nothing to do with Maulana Limbada even though am not a fan of narrating dreams from the pulpit.
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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2020 09:46

COVID19-UYGHUR-PUNISHMENT OF ALLAH THEORY

  1. Uyghurs are being persecuted in Xinjiang and may Allah Ta'ala assist them and bring safety, security and peace to them (Ameen)
  2. COVID-19 is medically proven by multiple sources to have originated in WUHAN

WUHAN is nearly 3000 Kilometres from Xinjiang, a simple lookup on Google Map would have saved a lot of time!

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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2020 11:05

What is Herd immunity?

In the UK, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases keeps on steadily ticking upwards. As of March 12 it had 590 confirmed infections – a 134 case increase on the previous day. Up until now the government’s strategy has been simple: first try and contain the outbreak and then delay the spread, evening out the pressure on the NHS.

But now people involved in the government’s coronavirus response appear to be mooting a new strategy: herd immunity. On March 11, David Halpern – chief executive of the government-owned Behavioural Insights Team and a member of the the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies – spoke to BBC Newsoutlining an approach that depended on shielding vulnerable people until enough of the UK population had been infected with Covid-19 that acquired immunity stopped its spread altogether.

On the ITV website, Robert Peston referred to the same idea, writing that the strategy of the British government “is to allow the virus to pass through the entire population so that we acquire herd immunity”. So how does the concept work? People can gain immunity to diseases after being exposed to them, and once enough people are immune to a disease – either through exposure or vaccines – it will stop circulating within a population. That's herd immunity.

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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2020 11:31

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From my Microbiology lessons (decades ago) :P

This is a good theoretical plan but requires serious co-ordination among Public Health officials and on the ground teams and if you bungle the coordination you will end up with a disaster at your hands. The British Public Health system is pretty good, coordinated and ready.

The Americans on the other hand cannot organise Qiyamul-Layl in a Salafi Mosque and their Public Health system is in tatters. I seriously believe that Americans will be hit very hard with Covid-19.




 
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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2020 11:42
Yes I totally agree. Although I was quite suprised when herd immunity was mentioned.

Although it sounds like a sound plan. It also falls in place with the prime ministers recent comment that many people will lose loved ones. Sounds like survival of the fittest. With herd immunity there is no possibility of protecting the weak and vulnerable in society.

Every country is dealing with the outbreak with various methods. There’s pros and cons in both stopping public integration and allowing the outbreak to take its course. Well we will find out in due course. They have predicted a spike in three months. Allah knows best
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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2020 14:31
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This persons tweets were very informative regarding the treatment of the Chinese Muslims and also on the corona virus. Lots of leaks and inside news was being shared. I was looking for some of the evidence regarding the Muslims and their treatment to post on another thread where it was said that the news we get about our brothers and sisters in china was fake. I wantd to prove to the shaykh that there is ill treatment.

I've seen videos of some of the punishment given to these brothers of ours.

But it seems the account is no longer available. It has been removed (for now)
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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2020 17:38
I edited this post
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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2020 17:45
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It's not true. The virus cases extend well above and below that latitude.

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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2020 17:53
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But rare cases near Equator and Southern Hemisphere?
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