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#271 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 18:54
Yes the masjid will only follow and deobandi opinion. But i find it strange that in a situation like this when masjids are being closed, i find it strange that people would want to stick to one manhaj/madhab. Ulama should be able to seek opinions from other Ulama, review the reasonings and apply it this severe situation of life and death. But insha Allah we can discuss that another time.

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#272 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 19:04
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I find it strange that we would be told not to follow the government guidelines on social distancing.
Personally, I think not following guidelines makes it more likely to end up with your mosque closed.

Just my opinion, since I'm clearly not qualified to question the Hadiths.
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#273 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 19:17

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Also permissible in the Hanafi Madhab due to valid excuse/reason and according to Maulana Marghoob Ahmed Lajpuri (HA) doing this due to COVID-19 would be acceptable. He has answered it in his book last week.

Also permissible according to other Hanafi Scholars e.g. look at Jamiatul-Ulama South Africa poster from day 1

Mufti Amjad Saheb (HA) probably doesn't believe that COVID-19 qualifies.

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You are reading the views of someone who is a master of deception and subterfuge.

  1. NOBODY including Mufti Amjad (HA) believes that leaving gaps nullifies the prayer at all.
  2. EVERYONE believes that it is Sunnah to arrange the rows properly
  3. EVERYONE believes that it is permissible to have gaps due to valid reason/excuse. The books of Fiqh talk about a break (due to a puddle or a barrier like a pillar or other reasons etc)

The issue now becomes is COVID-19 a valid excuse to make gaps in the row? Maulana Marghoob Ahmed Lajpuri (HA) and many South African (Hanafi) Scholars believe that it does so leaving gaps is permissible.

Mufti Amjad (HA) probably does not think so but he does not believe that the prayer of the person is nullified by doing so. I have not spoken to him so I am speculating on former but certain on later.

Read the views of "Concerned" about women attending Mosques, the man finds a gap enlarges it into a mountain OR builds a straw man argument and spends days poking holes in an imaginary argument.

The crux of the issue is this:

  1. ARE gaps due to danger of passing COVID-19 in the rows permissible?

No matter if the answer is Yes or No, the prayer is valid either way.

  • THOSE who wish to have a gap can follow Maulana Marghoob Ahmed Lajpuri (HA) and South African Hanafi Uama
  • THOSE who do not wish to have a gap can follow Mufti Amjad Saheb (HA)

Although in this case, I (personally) would go with option 1 due to the status of Maulana Marghoob Ahmed Lajpuri (HA) and no disrespect to Mufti Amjad Saheb (HA) as he is dear to me and I speak to him almost everyday.

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#274 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 19:22
Hahahahahaha

It is clear I was in a conversation with abuMuhammad, and I thank him for the resource. And alhamdililah the conversation has lead to a response shared by Muadh helpful to the scenario.

PS i was right in most of my discussions regarding women and masjid. Just see Maulana Yusuf Shabbir's fatwas and the answers given to him by Mufti Taqi sahib.
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#275 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 19:24
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In the interest of safety of musalles would you be able to provide the responses you mentioned allowing salah to be resd in such a manner?
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#276 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 19:25

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There is no public congregation in UK at this time and those who have been designated can speak to the Ulama. Your deception is not required at this sensitive time for the Ummah of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam).

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#277 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 19:28
I am not in UK. Our Jaamiat and committe knew this matter was approaching but are now scrambling to find info. If you can help post it so i can pass it on to the member who asked me about it. If not so be it.
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#278 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 19:43

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You are Mujaddid so perform Ijtehad yourself.
 
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#279 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 20:14
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#280 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 20:23
youtu.be/lPlzC6zFn8Y 53 minutes (includes advise to mosques)

Seeking God's Mercy during the coronavirus. Mufti Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf
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#281 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 20:47
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Yes i was aware of that. The masjids aren't contemplating closing as yet, although judging by what is happening around the world, perhaps it would be better to take optional measures early to help prevent the situation from escalating, rather than try to play the numbers game with multiple congregations untill Allah forbid, we reach a stage where by law we are required to close masjids. May Allah save us from that.

Leaving gaps in the saffs should help reduce the spread of the virus insha Allah.
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#282 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 21:04
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Government just announced a nationwide lockdown.



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#283 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 21:26
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Just heard on bbc world service. South Africa announced something as well.
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#284 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 22:08
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#285 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2020 22:41
Prayers of the oppressed have no barriers. Alhamdulillah
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