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#136 [Permalink] Posted on 24th October 2018 20:11
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People find their co-founder for their startup online. They work on writting programs, throughout the world, and share their work on platform like github, around a "community", and make money…

They even rise funds for projects that lead nowhere (several hundred thousand dollars, even millions dollars for useless video games).

We can do better, we have to do better for our Community. So we have to find solutions. Be blocked is not an option.

So here some suggestions (can be associated). You can find better ones.

Why not start with Muftisays?
  • We are in Muftisays because we think that this website is reliable. So the staff is reliable.
    So, why not ask the staff of Muftisays to take care of this, and ask them to endorse this organization to the forum? Why not just ask? Of course, we can help them, and give some money.

  • Ask elite members of Muftisays to take care of this, and give them the most support possible.

  • Why not trying to elect in Muftisays the one who will take care of this? For example, the candidate, or the chosen one, must have at least 200 points of reputation, and be approved by the staff.

    The elected will have to do all necessary steps, with support of willing members of Muftisays. (But soon or later, there will be a problem of anonymity, and this will violate one of the rule of Muftisays).

  • Ask some Scholars to sponsor and endorse the organization. Ask even to great mufti.

  • Find help outside Muftisays, start with a masjid, madrasat, even great Deoband madrasats.


But please, do not give up. They are our brethren!

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#137 [Permalink] Posted on 25th October 2018 04:20
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I and many members here agree with that.
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#138 [Permalink] Posted on 25th October 2018 11:17
Br @muadh and prof @maripat

If indian Muslims would have prioritised "let us protect our imaan and deeni culture" over "development of Muslims", and casted our votes accordingly, situation would have been different.
We gave priority to Muslims development

We ourselves would have developed our community..
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#139 [Permalink] Posted on 25th October 2018 19:09
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With all due respect, we have to stop to complain. We have to accept our destiny, whether it is good or bad. Moreover continue to complain will brings nothing good.

Time for analysis is over. We know the root cause of the problem. Now it is time to act.

I propose to open an other thread, and start from it to build something. For example, we can start by asking officially to Muftisays staff’s, and so one, and not stop trying until creation of the organization.

Incha Allah, we will succeed.

Is there any volunteers among the oldest/elite members of Muftisays to take care of this new topic?

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#140 [Permalink] Posted on 26th October 2018 06:14

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My brother I am sorry I do not agree with your assessment.
 
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#141 [Permalink] Posted on 26th October 2018 07:22
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you know history better than me.
Sahabah never intent to achieve duniya benefits by serving deen. But we know the history, they reached the pinnacle of progress in duniya.

And history also says, reason behind later generations losing whatever these first generation achieved in duniya is, they gave priority to duniya over deen.

Today, position of Indian muslims is; any party or group not harming our deen or us is ok for us. We will earn our daily bread by ourselves. Government jobs are not the only source for earning for us. Duniya bahuth badi hai.
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#142 [Permalink] Posted on 26th October 2018 09:11
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I agree. Sahaba RA faced the worst economic crisis in earlier periods of Islamic revolution. That was their spiritual, physical, mental and emotional training. Due to magnificent leadership of Rasulullah SAWS, unbreakable determination of the Sahaba RA and utmost sacrifice, Allah helped them in making this revolution a success. Later on, Allah gave them dunia as well. However, we can clearly observe, that as soon as dunia came to their doorsteps, fitna also increased. Not because they got corrupted (Noudhubillah) but because it is the nature of dunia that with it comes a lot of trials and fitnah.

Greatness comes after suffering. It is our inner strength which will make us succeed in both of the worlds. Even barakah in dunia depends upon our inner strength and character.

The only problem of not even Muslims but all humans as a whole today is "Spiritual Immaturity". For this to cure they need Practical Islam by pious examples individually and Pious and Correct leadership and khilafah system collectively. This means that Aulia(not sufis) RH will be their example and guide at personal level while a wali leader with his spiritually rich political, economic and social system of Islam will lead them to ultimate and true progress, prosperity and peace.
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#143 [Permalink] Posted on 26th October 2018 10:05
If khilafat is the solution,do it.

I know good number of young fresh graduates who rejected bank, insurance company, liquor industry Jobs, they were offered double the salary, some even were jobless for months.

Some pious industrialist continued with limited capital, bankers were at their doorsteps offering millions as bank loans.

Some pious souls continued to live a simple life in rented houses.

This is called "priority of Deen over duniya"
And this is happening today.
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#144 [Permalink] Posted on 27th October 2018 08:52
This hadeeth narrated by Muslim (145) from Abu Hurayrah

“Islam began as something strange and will revert to being strange as it began, so give glad tidings to the strangers.”

Egyptian Scholar Shaykh Abd al fattah guddah commenting on this hadith had said, when we interpret this hadith in positive way (grammatically), it means When Rasulullah SAS started his dawah mission, Sahabah supported him, ( logically, they didn't posses the requisite qualities to support the mission, it was unimaginable, better nations were present in that period). But they were the group responsible for spread of deen all over the world. Sahabah were chosen by Allah SWT.

Similarly in present century, no one expected Indians and too those mewatis to support Molana Ilyas RA for his great dawat and tabligh mission. But we are witness to revolutionary results.

Now, in today's scenario who will be "help came from unexpected quarter".
I don't see it, but as per the hadith who will be rewarded with "so give glad tidings to the strangers"........... Let us wait and watch.

Or is it filtered version of tablighi jamaath represented by the shura group, they are weak now; in contrary, Amarath group is dominant now.

Or is it Imam Mahdi AS and one else.
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#145 [Permalink] Posted on 27th October 2018 09:28
عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم بَدَأَ الإِسْلاَمُ غَرِيبًا وَسَيَعُودُ كَمَا بَدَأَ غَرِيبًا فَطُوبَى لِلْغُرَبَاءِ
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#146 [Permalink] Posted on 27th October 2018 17:51
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Or is it Imam Mahdi AS and one else.


The team is ready. The institutions are there even if somewhat rusty. However, the only thing needed is the leader. Insha Allah, his arrival is near. The signs are already there. Be ready!
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#147 [Permalink] Posted on 28th October 2018 07:18
These 3 months are testing period for muslims. Attempts by ahle kitaab eisaee workers to convert muslims are at peak now. Even foreign sathees are involved here, refrigerator vans to carry expensive food stuffs, music bands, young singing girls etc are used in slums and villages. They meet muslims, convince them in various ways, trick them and convert them. They have even burqa (hijabi) ladies to convince muslim ladies, these ladies spend time in day at these muslim houses and help them in house work.

Unfortunately no muslim brother has given a hand shake to them. As I said earlier, these muslims are 75% of total muslim population.

I was reading Ali Mian Nadvi RA, he was surprised that when ulema and elites have waged a war against bida'ah are silent on this irtidad at mass scale. This demanded better effort than fight against bida'ah. But nothing is being done on this for 70 years.

A request to Tablighi factions, please go for a ceasefire, concentrate on this issue for 3 months.

Salafis stop those expensive books on rafayadain, spend your energy here. You can't get away saying that all this is because of 4 sects.

Jamath-e-islami and other elites, Ameer-e-aalam will take another few decades, go for some contingency plans here.

And others who have their rusted machinery, oil it and take some immediate steps.
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#148 [Permalink] Posted on 28th October 2018 16:33
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Ma Sha Allah. Great Insight. May Allah help us all.
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#149 [Permalink] Posted on 29th October 2018 10:07
In Recent conference Molana Mahmood Madani has raised serious concern on this issue.
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#150 [Permalink] Posted on 31st October 2018 16:55
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This time I am going to write about something based on what Iqbal said quite a few years ago.

Waaye na-kaami, mataa-e-kaarvaan jaata raha
Kaarvaan k dil se ehsaas-e-zyaan jaata raha

I would take it in a slightly different perspective here. This is a scenario when you continue losing something and with the passage of time, the feeling of loss also fades away. This is just like, you feel hesitant in talking to a friend after a long time. Let’s take this example. I haven’t talked to a friend of mine for months now. There was a time when we were like very good friends and shared a lot of stuff but then somehow this contact had to be ended and apparently we both had our own reasons for that. Not that I know all the reasons but at least I know my side of the story. It feels awkward initially but then with the passage of time you get used to it. Losing a friend is indeed a big loss. But not realizing that you have lost a friend is an even bigger loss. Similarly, in a lot of other cases if you dont have the realization of a loss, like losing out on some opportunity to get good marks, to make a useful contribution then there come these words from Iqbal “ehsaas-e-zyaan jaata raha”.
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