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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 16th November 2016 23:05
Here’s How Trump Could Take Down Muslim Civil Rights Groups
Designating Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization could lead to major fallout for American Muslims.



David Noriega
BuzzFeed News Reporter


Members of the hardline anti-Islam lobby are eagerly anticipating the possibility of the Trump administration designating the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization, which is increasingly likely if conspiracy theorists like Frank Gaffney play a prominent role in Trump’s transition team. Gaffney believes the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the US government at every level and has even questioned whether Barack Obama was “America’s first Muslim president” implementing the Brotherhood’s plans.
While a terrorist designation would have several foreign policy implications, experts say the measure is being pushed primarily by stateside anti-Islam extremists like Gaffney who believe it would empower the Trump administration to target a number of major Muslim American nonprofits.

“Let me be extremely clear,” said J.M. Berger, a counterterrorism analyst at George Washington University’s Program on Extremism. “This initiative is concerned with controlling American Muslims, not with any issue pertaining to the Muslim Brotherhood in any practical or realistic sense.”
Nathan Lean, author of The Islamophobia Industry, said such a designation could have chilling implications for Muslim civil society in the United States. Based on unfounded yet oft-repeated claims that American Muslim groups have ties to — or are outright fronts for — the Muslim Brotherhood, Lean said, the designation would provide cover for the administration to shut down nonprofits, maliciously prosecute individuals, and pursue other acts that would, in turn, leave ordinary American Muslims more vulnerable to marginalization and repression.

“I believe that Muslim civil liberties could potentially, with this policy move, be wiped off the map,” Lean said. “It sounds like hyperbole, but I mean that very seriously.”
The Muslim Brotherhood, founded in Egypt in 1928, is widely considered the progenitor of Islamism — the philosophy that the state should enforce perceived Islamic values in all spheres of life. Over the decades, the group remained centered in Egypt but developed offshoots across the Muslim world. The Muslim Brotherhood briefly took power in Egypt after the Arab Spring, but was displaced in a 2013 military coup that left the group in disarray.

“I believe that Muslim civil liberties could potentially, with this policy move, be wiped off the map.”
Although violent groups like Hamas and al-Qaeda evolved from the Muslim Brotherhood, most counterterrorism experts do not consider the Muslim Brotherhood itself a terrorist organization, at least one that should be designated as such by the US State Department. This is true even of analysts who believe the Muslim Brotherhood should be treated as an adversary hostile to the West.
“The Muslim Brotherhood is a totalitarian organization that very explicitly seeks local, regional, and global power,” said Eric Trager, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and author of Arab Fall, a book about the Brotherhood. “However, a group that could not even achieve this goal in Egypt, where it is from, poses very little risk to a country like the United States.” Moreover, Trager said, a terrorism designation “would significantly constrain any US president’s ability” to address the Brotherhood and its offshoots across the Middle East with a variety of approaches.
However, a small group of committed anti-Islam conspiracy theorists in the United States view the Muslim Brotherhood as an enormously powerful, coordinated, and nefarious institution that has successfully infiltrated all levels of American government and society, particularly under the administration of Barack Obama.
Trump’s victory has given several of these groups and individuals unprecedented levels of influence. Chief among them is Frank Gaffney, a Reagan-era Pentagon official who yesterday was named to Trump’s transition team, according to a Wall Street Journal report. Although a Trump spokesperson denied that Gaffney is involved in the transition on Wednesday morning, the report was enough to set off a flurry of opposition and concern. Gaffney, through his Center for Security Policy, has for years been the principal proponent of conspiracy theories centering around Islamist infiltration, and he has repeatedly opposed the nomination of American Muslims to local and state-level government appointments, usually by accusing them of having ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
In the worldview of Gaffney and his acolytes, the Muslim Brotherhood has several front groups in the United States, most prominently the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, a civil rights organization with chapters across the country. Experts outside the anti-Islam lobby say that these claims, by and large, are false. “Some US Muslim organizations were founded by or with the assistance of the Muslim Brotherhood decades ago, but for most of them, these links are ancient history,” said Berger, the analyst at George Washington University. “No major American Muslim organization is today affiliated with the group.”

A woman holds a sign in protest after a Donald Trump campaign rally. Michael B. Thomas / AFP / Getty Images
During the early months of the presidential campaign, the anti-Islam lobby’s strongest alliances were with Sen. Ted Cruz. (Gaffney was one of Cruz’s chief national security advisors before moving to Trump’s camp.) Last November, Cruz introduced legislation to the Senate asking the State Department to report to Congress about whether the Muslim Brotherhood should be designated a terrorist organization. The bill explicitly named CAIR along with two other major Muslim groups — the Islamic Society of North America and the North American Islamic Trust — as American affiliates of the Muslim Brotherhood, citing their appearance on a list of unindicted co-conspirators in the trial of the Holy Land Foundation, a group convicted of sending money to Hamas. (The Justice Department concluded that neither CAIR nor any other Muslim group on the list merited being charged with a crime.)
“It’s something that we’ve been quite concerned about,” a senate aide to Cruz told BuzzFeed News, in reference to the Muslim Brotherhood’s alleged influence in the United States via groups like CAIR. “There seems to be a sort of single voice speaking for the Muslim community in the form of the Brotherhood.”
But Cruz’s legislation stalled. “Within the Republican foreign policy establishment, there was a desire to tamp down this idea during the spring, because it was seen as a distraction from the task of combating ISIS,” said Trager, the analyst at the Washington Institute. “That establishment, however, has been dealt a serious blow.”
Last week, Walid Phares, a top adviser to Trump, told an Egyptian newspaper that Trump would actively work to pass Cruz’s bill. Experts told BuzzFeed News that a State Department directed by a Trump ally such as Rudy Giuliani or John Bolton would be significantly more likely to respond to Congress’s call by giving the Muslim Brotherhood an official terrorist designation.
That designation would open any US persons or organizations accused of having an association with the Muslim Brotherhood to investigations, asset seizures, and other state actions. Members of the anti-Islam lobby responded happily to Phares’s statements. Frank Gaffney told Breitbart that the terrorist designation should be the first step in Trump’s “strategy of victory over jihad.”
“What a sweet moment, what a miraculous moment,” said Jamie Glazov, the managing editor of anti-Islam publication FrontPage Magazine. “CAIR, ISNA, and other Brotherhood front groups should be shaking in their boots.”
“I think the possibility of another Salem witch trial is always a reality.”
Corey Saylor, director of CAIR’s Department to Monitor and Combat Islamophobia, said that, because CAIR is not in fact a front for the Muslim Brotherhood, he expects they will be able to survive any scrutiny by the new administration. “Every Muslim institution in this country has already been subjected to extreme vetting,” Saylor said. “And if there were anything nefarious about any Muslim institution, they would already be in jail at this point.”
Nevertheless, Saylor said the terrorist designation could still be used to maliciously target CAIR and other groups. “I think the possibility of another Salem witch trial is always a reality,” he said.
Even if the government did not attempt to directly harm CAIR, the public association by government officials with a designated terrorist organization could seriously harm the group’s reputation, said Robert McKenzie, a fellow at the Brookings Institution who studies Muslims in the West. McKenzie pointed out that one of CAIR’s principal functions is offering American Muslims legal protection in the event of discrimination, harassment, and hate crimes.
“If there’s a dark cloud looming where they could be viewed as affiliated with a terrorist organization by the government, I think there’s a huge disincentive for people to approach them,” McKenzie said. “This should concern us whether we’re talking about Muslims or any other minority.”
Weakening CAIR in such a way would eliminate the first line of defense for many American Muslims against several policies proposed by Trump and members of the anti-Islam right, such as registering Muslims in databases, surveilling their mosques, or banning their entry into the country, McKenzie said.
Hassan Shibly, executive director of CAIR’s Florida chapter, said the possible terrorist designation worried him deeply, given the now-powerful anti-Islam lobby’s tendency to baselessly associate “just about every major American Muslim organization” with the Muslim Brotherhood.
“I’ve gotta wonder whether the Jews in Germany — and I don’t say this lightly — I’ve gotta wonder whether they were asking themselves some of the questions that we’re starting to ask ourselves now,” Shibly said.
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2016 09:39
If they label a non extremist or a non violent group as terrorist then Muslims will simply disassociate with them. Isn't that what we are best at doing?
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2016 19:37
Shibli is a good calm brother and if he is worried its time for the rest of Muslims in America to be seriously worried.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2016 23:41
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Shibly is right to be worried we are getting mainstream muslims forming alliances with Zionists including ISNA www.tabletmag.com/scroll/218409/why-two-top-muslim-and-je...

The excuse being promoted is that they are going to form alliances with Zionists to help oppose "Anti_Muslim Bigotry", kind of Ironic when it is the Zionists who have proactively been promoting "Anti-Muslim Bigotry".

Looking at the Islamic narrative emerging in America.... I have come to the conclusion that the so-called backwardness and uncompromising attitude of our communities is a blessing , Salafis, Barelvis, Deobandis et al... are collectivley a strong Barrier to the forces of this apologetic revisionist, and modernist Islam emerging from America.

For how along that remains the case I dont know?


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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2016 23:47
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I think the Muslims given the recent eccentric behaviour of its associates would be well advised in disconnecting from ISNA dont know much about the rest.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd November 2016 10:48
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ISNA or MPAC etc are reactions to backwardness of our people and no its not a good thing, it may give visible Sunnah on the streets (Alhumdolillah) but in the long run it will breed the kind of organisations which we fear and are not representative
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd November 2016 10:51
The precedence for our behavior is in Indian History.

British gave some autonomy to Indian Muslims in Personal Law (Marriage, Talaq, Salah etc) and the Ulama gave full fledged Fatwaas in favour of benevolent Queen Victoria.

These outward permissions for practising Sunnah will slowly be taken away.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd November 2016 17:15
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The precedence for our behavior is in Indian History.

British gave some autonomy to Indian Muslims in Personal Law (Marriage, Talaq, Salah etc) and the Ulama gave full fledged Fatwaas in favour of benevolent Queen Victoria.

These outward permissions for practising Sunnah will slowly be taken away.


Those ulema belonged to a small minority group who called themselves ahle-hadith.
Mainstream Ulema never gave any fatawah favoring the queen.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd November 2016 10:54
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i thought it was the qadiyanis and brealwis who gave their allegiances to the queen?
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2016 18:26
Hate letter sent to Mosque: 'Trump will do to Muslims what Hitler did to the Jews'


One of the Imam's hopes the person who sent the letter will sit down in dialogue and that they can teach other a thing or two.

The San Jose Police Department is investigating a handwritten letter which was sent to several Mosques in California stating that Trump will "cleanse America" of Muslims and will do "what Hitler did to the Jews," The San Francisco Chronicle reported.

The letter referred to Muslims as "Children of Satan" and called them "a vile and filthy people."

The Imam at the Evergreen Islamic Center alerted authorities in San Jose about the letter Thursday night.

Authorities are treating the letter, which explains that Trump is “going to cleanse America and make it shine again. And, he's going to start with you Muslims," as a hate crime.

Faisal Yazadi, president of the mosque's board of directors, invited the person who sent the letter to engage in dialogue saying “I hope that person knows that we're more than happy to have a dialogue. Hopefully, we learn a thing or two from him or her, and he or she learns something from us.”

Tarek Mohamed, who chairs the Long Beach mosque, said that the situation needs involvement from the FBI and that "the local police is limited by the city, if we have mosques being threatened across the state, it's not a local thing. We need some higher authority to investigate."

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