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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 9th March 2006 13:14
lol muslima people in the shura will be happy
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 9th March 2006 13:55
What brother Yasin has said makes sense Alhamdullilah.


Our elders have always said that we should win the hearts of teh brothers first then take work from them. Having said that and taking into consideration what Yasin has said we must remember that the elders have also said that always make the full tashkeel like i made above on the 2.5 hrs etc.... but if a person wants to give more or less thats fine.


About scaring the laymen away, this i put down to the habbits of the perpetual workers who tend to become very fanatic and they unfortuantely see Tabligh as THEE only solution then this happens and comments like these surface. Mufti Mahmood Hasan Ganghoi when he made Itikaf in Lenasia South Africa when the In gusht took place he gave the Bayaan and he made it clear to all present that we should not COMPARTMENTALISE deen and say that TABLIGH is theee only solution or KHANQA is thee only solution, he said these are one of many ways of reformation and that each should work hand in hand. He said the elders of Tabligh should encourage the workers to go and sit in the company of the Shuyukh and that the Shuyukh in the Khanqa should encourage the mureeds to go out in the path of Allah.


Coming back to the Ulama's attitude to giving time, this stems from the fact that the Ulama have been silent in their stance against or for tabligh. They should spend time educating tablighis so that they the tablighi's can be more moderate in their approach. No use complaining they need to be clear as they are the Bearers of the GREAT knowledge.


Our elders are currently saying that we should be making our musjids abaad (alive) and that the musjid should be the focul point of the muslims community. This will only happen when the Quran and Sunnat come alive in the musjid and BIDAT is dispelled from the ibadat in the musjid.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 9th March 2006 15:16
I agree with the points made above. Some of my teachers also raised the same points. There is a minority who oppose the work of Tableegh but the case is rare. Also, their opposing is not because of the work, it is due to the Usool and principals adapted by some Muballigheen (Tableeghi).


However, as you stated above very nicely mashaAllah, the cause can be lack of minimum required knowledge and also, the lack of Ulamaa in supervision of this great work.


A very strong motive in Tableegh is your last paragraph:

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Our elders are currently saying that we should be making our musjids abaad (alive) and that the musjid should be the focul point of the muslims community. This will only happen when the Quran and Sunnat come alive in the musjid and BIDAT is dispelled from the ibadat in the musjid.


How different would communities be if this took place in every area. Jazakallah for your input brother.


Wassalam

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 9th March 2006 22:58
Mashallah, I think the brother said it really well - i.e we should treat the tarteeb of Tabligh as a Tarteeb and not wajib!


We speak about Ilm and Dhikr all the time - but I sometimes ask myself, where is the effort for Ilm? I wish ulama would take jamaats for 40 days and actually teach them a syllabus of some sort at the same time. That way one really would be doing all 6 points and not just repeating them like parrots.


Reading fadil is very good and powerful for Islah but we also need to learn.


e.g maybe a jamaat could have the target of learning Quran etc.

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2006 06:20
Exactly, it has be come too common in Tabligh that brothers doing the work neglect mentioning the Quraan even in their Muthakira. Lots of stress is laid on reading Hadith of our beloved mustapha (saw) yet when it comes to the noble Quraan we neglect mentioning that ata bear minimum we should be reading at least 100 ayaat so as not to be counted amongst the neglectful.


The reason (for not mentioning Quraan) is because most of the ummat has left the understanding of the Quraan only to the ulama and they have the attitude that if we not aalim or moulana then we shouldnt be engaging in understanding the meaning of the Quraan, whether it be good tafseers of english versions this Mufti A.K Hoosen was saying is the major neglect of the ummat today. We have to take out time to go and seek ulama who are prepared to explain to us the meaning of the Quraan and then Inshallah of we sit in their company and work out some sort of syllabus afetr a short period we will gaing knowledge to start understanding Quraan by ourselves, but we should always refer to a learned person for clearification.


Alhamdullilah where i stay i try as much a possible to make mention of all the things we have descussed in this post whenever i get the opportunity to give gusht adaabs or Six points.


One last thing for All.


In Mukathab Ahadith By Ml Yusuf رضي الله عنه edited and completed by Ml Saad (db) in teh introduction a very important directive is laid down for all mubaligheen doing the tarteeb of the Tabligh


i.e That the 6 points are clear and extracted from the Sahaba's live nobody shall add another to it nor shall it be deduced by any amounts. RATHER EVERY WORKER SHALL ONLY STICK TO THE 6 POINTS IN HIS DAWAT HE SHOULD NEITHER NOT TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE UNLESS IT IS IN THE BOUNDERIES OF THE 6 QUALITIES.


This can also be found in the introduction of a nice book by Mufti Mahmood Hasan (RA) entitled Mufti Mahmood and the Tabligh jamaat.


Today Mubaligheen have sortive ignored this directive that's why they end up talking about things which either make no sesnse or r blatantly incorrect.


May Allah guide us All


Ameen

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 16th June 2008 22:28
MashAllah awesome poem

The book mentioned above-mufti mahmood hasan gangohi and the tablighi jamaat is an excellent book, and another really good book on the subject is 'Tabligh Movement ' by a Maulana Wahiduddin Khan.

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2009 22:45
Assalamua'laikum

i just joined this site following this thread, mashaAllah the site also looks good and pleasant

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2009 17:06

When a janazah is picked up and people take turns to lend a shoulder in carrying it, no one ever says no to anyone. Every participant is welcome in sharing the "burden" so to speak.


So how come everyone is so keen to push and shove each other when working for the beatiful Deen of Allah? Khanqah, Tabligh, a simple dars in the local Masjid, a halaqa.....are they not all for the same purpose and just different roads leading to the same destination? The important thing is they be of benefit to those who need guidance and who amongst us is not in need of correct guidance?



May Allah accept each and every effort made in His path, aameen

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2011 00:01
my dear brothers the tabligh work is the most accepted work in the world and the work is increasing. Like an elder told me, this work will have enemies so that the tablighis strive harder and not be contented.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2011 18:49
A Few Guidelines for Some Tabl�gh� Friends

With regard to religious da'wah (propagation) you must present yourself while considering yourself to be insignificant and your addressee to be more honoured than yourself. You must adopt a requesting tone when speaking to him. If you insist upon him after this or resort to disparaging words, then you would be committing the sin of hurting the heart of a Muslim, and it will also be against the principle of ikr�m-e-Muslim. Adopting an attitude like this for propagation is harmful to the propagator himself because he has now committed major sins like hurting the heart of a Muslim, scorning him, and the sin of haughtiness. Secondly, instead of bringing the person closer to this da'wah he will be causing him to go further away.

The elders confined and restricted the Tabl�gh� jam�'at to the six points solely on the basis of organization, experience and inspiration. To accord it the status of divine revelation, or to consider only this method of tabl�gh to be the prophetic da'wah or the da'wah of the Sahabah (Radhiallaho anhum), to look at workers of other methodologies who are rendering services to Islam with scorn, to criticize them, or to accord superiority to this specific methodology over the methodologies of all the past muhaddith�n (Had�th scholars), mufassir�n (commentators of the Qur'�n), jurists and 'ulam�' in a manner which causes the masses to have no respect for them - then this is a serious innovation (bid'ah), excess in Islam, and misguidance.

Da'wah was not confined to these six points during the era of Rasulullah (sallellaho alaihe wasallam) nor during the era of the khulaf�' r�shid�n (Rightly Guided Caliphs). Neither were these six points delineated during these eras nor was there any practical application of "three days", "forty days", etc. Therefore, how can it be correct to consider solely this specific methodology and these "six points" to be the methodology of tabl�gh of the Sahabah (Radhiallaho anhum) or the methodology of Rasulullah (sallellaho alaihe wasallam)? This is an excellent way of reformation for the ummah in general provided the limits of the Shar�'ah are not transgressed both in practice and in beliefs. Even then, complete reformation is generally not possible without attachment to a mentor, as is witnessed, and as the very founder of the tabl�gh� jam�'at had selected Hazrat Maul�n� Khal�l Ahmad Sahib rahimahull�h for his internal reformation, and just as Hazrat Shaikh al-Had�th Maul�n� Zakar�yy� Sahib rahimahull�h had selected him as his spiritual mentor.

The Qur'�n categorically states that after reforming his self, a person must see to the reformation of his wife and children. And he is ordered to save them from the Hell-fire. Therefore, one's family members enjoy the first right of seeing to their reformation. One should therefore benefit one's family members first with this da'wah, and thereafter he can worry about the reformation of distant places and lands. We have seen many people undertaking distant journeys to Japan and America for the purpose of da'wah while the condition of their household is completely different. If you look at their children, they have western style haircuts and western appearances. They have young daughters who pay no attention to purdah. The person himself is religiously minded - m� sh� All�h - but his family members know nothing about Islam. Whereas Rasulullah (sallellaho alaihe wasallam) said that you are all shepherds [you all have been given a responsibility] and you will all be questioned about your flocks [those who are under your care].

When the 'ulam�' cannot be reformed and rectified without first wiping out their souls in the company of a spiritual mentor, what can be said of the masses? Proofs for this can be obtained from the books of Hazrat Th�nw� rahimahull�h. A pious elder who has been under the training of a spiritual mentor will never scorn an ordinary Muslim, let alone scorning and belittling an '�lim. Hazrat Hakeem-ul-Ummah rahimahull�h has stated that it is har�m to make tabl�gh to a person while scorning him and considering yourself to be great. If a person cannot pay due attention and concern to ikr�m-e-Muslim at the time of da'wah - then it is obligatory on him to remain silent and his talking is not worthy of this duty. On one occasion, a tabl�gh� brother said in my presence that such and such '�lim must wear bangles, why does he not go out?

"It is a very serious statement which issues from their mouths."

A labourer who carries blocks boasts about his perspiration and toiling and says to a businessman: "Why are you sitting in your room and wearing bangles? Why don't you come out onto the field a bit?" What reply will the businessman give? He will say:
"You earn five rupees in eight hours, while I earn in a single hour several times what you earn for the entire day. O you foolish one! My education and mental capabilities are more valuable than your perspiration." In like manner, the
perspiration of the masses cannot even equal the dust of the religious services of the 'ulam�', whether in the mas�jid, mad�ris, kh�nq�s or d�r al-ift�s. This is because the masses cannot even imagine the hardships which they endured in the acquisition of Islamic knowledge. The genuine 'ulam�' are the inheritors of the Prophets (Alaihimus salaam). When the masses make disparaging statements about them, they are acting in conflict of absolute texts, and committing serious acts of misguidance and ignorance.

Rasulullah (sallellaho alaihe wasallam) said:

"The one who does not accord respect to the '�lim among us is not of
us." Rasulullah (sallellaho alaihe wasallam) also said that the superiority of an '�lim over an '�bid (worshipper) is like my superiority over the lowest among you.
Another Had�th states:

"The person who does not show mercy to the young among us, does not accord respect to the elderly among us, who does not command good and forbid evil is not of us."

Some tabl�gh� brothers have restricted and confined ikr�m-e- Muslim solely within this jam�'at. We have thus noticed that they will show respect to those 'ulam�' who are active in this jam�'at. As for the other 'ulam�' who are busy in the mad�ris, kh�nq�hs or d�r al-ift�s, they think that these 'ulam�' have abandoned tabl�gh. We learn from this that they have made this one specific method of tabl�gh the objective. Whereas the objective is to work and serve Islam for whichever different groups are working in different ways. No specific method is from among the objectives of Islam. The jurists consider it to be a bid'ah (innovation) when any specific method of tabl�gh is regarded as an objective. It is therefore necessary to rectify this baseless belief.

Some people are so overcome with zeal with tabl�gh that they leave behind their weak and sick parents, or their pregnant wives who are close to delivery and go away. And they refer to this as tawakkul (reliance on Allah Ta'ala). The pure Shar�'ah considers such tawakkul to be har�m. Rasulullah (sallellaho alaihe wasallam) prohibited Hazrat 'Uthm�n (radhiallaho anho) from participating in the battle of Badr because his wife was ill.
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All praise is due to Allah Ta'ala for enabling us to complete the translation of this book. May Allah Ta'ala accept it from us and may it be a means of our reformation in this world, and salvation in the Hereafter. �m�n.
Mahomed Mahomedy
24 Jum�d� al-Ukhr� 1430 A.H.
18 June 2009

The greatness of knowledge and 'ulam�' by Moulana Hakim Akhtar saheb
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 15th June 2011 10:23

Asslamo Allaikum,

Shaykh Zulfiqar (HA) says,

"To serve the Deen is one of the great Sunnah and a hallmark of the Ulama of Deoband. Every single one of them served the Deen to the best of his capacity and there are many ways to Serve the Deen. Pick a way to the best of your ability and DO NOT look down on others. When someone asks as to why you have chosen to serve the Deen in this way when such and such Shaykh and such and such Maualana does it that way, you reply"

I am weak and this is the only way I can serve the Deen of Allah (SWT). Such and Shaykh and such and such Maulana is better and more capable then me and I wish I could emulate him but my human weakness is the impediment!

Then Shaykh (HA) says,

"Brothers! We have nothing against Tableegh, Jihad, Madrasahs but all those ways of serving the Deen requires much greater effort, intelligence and capability. Due to my inability and weakness my Shaykh (RA) advised to me to serve the Deen through Tassawuff so that's what I am doing!"

Its down to my weakness and their greater ability. I can barely fulfill what our Mashaykh taught us let alone anything else.

I was STUNNED when I heard this, "indirectly"

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 13th September 2014 00:03
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 13th September 2014 06:22

Thank you very much guest.

Read it completely and saved this message  in my computer.

My dua is May Allah make us believe that the hadhrath jees, Moulana Ilyas RA, Moulana yusuf RA, Moulana Inamul Hasan RA were all on siratal mustaqeem; Ummah was most benefited by them. And may Allah SWT keep all of us on their path.

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