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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 12th January 2006 11:36
Empty masjids cried floods of tears,
As no worshippers made sujood for many years,
And then crowds came back and thronged their floors,
You can see angels smile, and the heavens echo with applause.

The dhikr of Allah is being revived by their crowds
Throughout the lands jam'aahs travel like rain-bearing clouds
Bringing much sought for water to thirsty lands,
And turning to luscious green arid desert lands.

Some people may be unaware of this information ,
That mawlana Ilyaas was an initiated sufi master
But he saw the mutasawifs and ulema remaining aloof from their congregation,
Whilst Indias muslims plunged into great disaster

So he took the da'wah out to the masses,
Like Bees flying on journeys making honey in stashes,
Unknown inhabitations became Honeycombes sweet,
Where millions of muslims gather and meet

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 14th January 2006 23:42
Alhamdulilah the Tabligh Jammat are carrying out a very vital job in the Ummah. May Allah's Blessing and Help descend upon all people who are helping Allah's Deen in whatever capacity they can. Ameen.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd March 2006 09:43
As salaamu alaikum!

What would you say to those people who say those following Tablighi Jamaat are not correct.

One argument I have heard is that the Tablighi Jamaat people are not well educated in Islam, but go out preaching.

And secondly, what is a Sufi? Is is someone who dances around to drums whilst reciting Dhikr?

Please clarify.

Jazakallahah

Wa alaikumus salaam

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd March 2006 16:29
Assalamoalaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakaatuh


Although I myself am probably poorly qualified to address your queries, I feel strongly obliged to make some response.


As I understand it, the work of tablighi jamaat is focused around developing iman and akhlaaq, and following the sunnah. Brothers who are involved in tablighi jamaat work don't 'go out preaching' but simply invite muslims to spend time in the masjid developing their 'connection'* with Allah through salaah, recitation of the Qur'aan and dhikr.


This 'connection'* with Allah is, in essence, what sufism is all about.


For an excellent summary of tasawwuf, read:
www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/shafiqur.htm


I hope that what I have written is beneficial and accurate, and if not, please do correct me.


Jazakumullah Khairun,
Wassalaam


* I use the word connection, even though it is simply a matter of our hearts and minds acknowledging the reality of what our souls already know - the manifestation of iman, you could call it.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd March 2006 19:15
W/salam,


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What would you say to those people who say those following Tablighi Jamaat are not correct.[/quote]


State the verses regarding Tableegh where Allah refers to them as those who call towards good and forbid from evil.


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One argument I have heard is that the Tablighi Jamaat people are not well educated in Islam, but go out preaching.


It doesn't take a great level of education to distinguish between Halaal and Haraam, Good from Evil and that which benefits from that which harms.


The fundamentals of Tableegh laid out by Shaykh Ilyas Rahimahullah evolve around 6 basics. When this was brought to renowned Ulamaa of the time, they were sceptical until they were told about the 6 basics laid out for the layman. Upon that, their support and blessings were with the work.


The 6 basics also known as the 6 points or 6 numbers are built in ones self through Tableegh. THe purpose is not to preech but to rectify ones self and simply remind others by inviting them.


Daily life is built around the 6 points, no one claims that if the 6 points are met then you have a first class ticket to Jannah but it's simply to put one on the right path towards living their life daily as a Muslim by action and not only by name.


[quote]And secondly, what is a Sufi? Is is someone who dances around to drums whilst reciting Dhikr?


That's a new one. To my understanding, in the simplest forms, a Sufi or Tasawwuf is submitting to Allah out of love to an extent where daily life is felt in his presence and in peace. This is done through many means with Zhikr being one. The link that Shahly posted should shed more light on it.


I hope this helps.


Wassalam

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 4th March 2006 15:14
As salamu alaikum, (a question for any of the ulama to respond to..)


What about those people who say there is some bid'ah in tabligh? When I consider things like going for SPECFICALLY 3 days, 40 days and 4mnth, and also things like the 6 points and 5 amaal to be done daily (taleem, jawla, istishara etc) I consider them as a TARTEEB i.e. a nice way to do things but do NOT consider them a sunnah, nor something EXPLICITYLY detailed in the Shariah, nor I do I consder that a person who does not do dawah with this tarteeb sinful...


...is this the right way to view these tablighy principles??


....beause if not and a person established the practice of 3 days a month etc as a sunnah of the Prophet (saw) and say things like "when Allah سبحانه وتعالى refers to Jihad in the Quran e.g. in Surah Saff one can include going for Khuruj (whilst the Mufasirren Kiram give other SPECIFIC meanings), then surely these would be considered a Bidat and hence fuel the ignorance of some people in the world against the work??


And Allah سبحانه وتعالى Knows Best!

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 5th March 2006 15:35
an excellent poem, very nice indeed tabligh jamaat. mashallah hope to hear more poems that you have created.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 7th March 2006 15:47
we have a group come to our masjid, they emphasize following the Sunnah, growing beards, wearing imama and they go on jamaat. They all wear green turbans and white clothes and are called dawat islami from karachi/lahore pakistan. Are they tableeghi Jamaat?
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 7th March 2006 20:35
any one correct me if iam wrong but i think the dawati islami are barelvi and not tableeghi jamat
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 7th March 2006 23:08
As salamu alaikum,


I think they are barelvi too - may Allah forgive me if I am wrong. I have heard that they characteristically wear green Amamah. (Not that anyone who wears a green turban is a barelwi - Prophet (saw) is reported to have worn 3 blessed Amamah colours - white, black and green [Shamaail])


And Allah سبحانه وتعالى Knows Best!

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 8th March 2006 14:17
Asalamualykum

Yes they are Dawat-e-Islami and they are Barelwi There format is different to that of the Tablighi Brothers as they do not go our for any specific number of days

Tabligh is excellent

6 points = Imaaan , Salaah, Ilm and Thikr, Ikraam, Ikhlaas and Striving in the Path of Allah

Amaals of the Masjid are = 2 Gusht , 2.5 hours min daily, Taleem in the Musjid and At home, Shab Kuzari once a week and 3 days everymonth

Our musjids should become like the musjid in the time of the Nabi (saw) when the amaals of DAWAT, TALEEM;TALUM, THIKR, IBADAT AND GIDMAT


Who is ready to go out in the path of Allah for any mount of time, let us give our names here

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 8th March 2006 17:29
May Allah give us all the tawfeeq...inshallah when my kids r a little older!
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 8th March 2006 18:01
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Amaals of the Masjid are = 2 Gusht , 2.5 hours min daily, Taleem in the Musjid and At home, Shab Kuzari once a week and 3 days every month


The reasons of many people avoiding and fearing Tableegh should always be remembered here. The prescribed hours and days is what was set to maintain a steady atmosphere of teaching and learning. It does not have to be 2.5 hours minimum, it can be 10 minutes or even 6 hours. Similarly, if one has less duties and rights to fulfil and has the means, he can go 10 days a month whereas if one has more rights to fulfil of family etc, he can go 3 days a month or 3 days every 3 months. 3 days is also not necessary, if one has less time and finds a day spare, he can go for 24 hours.


There are many other actions and timetables which has been made so strict that not only do the youngsters hide from Tableegh, even Ulamaa choose not to go.


The benefits, proven changes, the virtues, the high status of this work is all seen daily. No doubt this work is one of the most accepted methods of reviving Islam. However, requirements and limitations should not be in Tableegh.


InshaAllah when Allah wills, I will have it posted here.


Wassalam

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 8th March 2006 22:08
i think the tableegh jamat is excellent, my dad and brothers go, it not only increses your deen, but also gives a good atmosphere in the homes we have talim every day and 1 point to say every day, in this way we can learn deen and also spend some time with our family.
the tableegh jamat is not strict it may sound it but once you get in to the work, ull realise. iam not saying tableegh jamat is the only way but in this day and age it is the best way to spread deen to the whole humanity.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 8th March 2006 22:25
moses wrote:


Who is ready to go out in the path of Allah for any mount of time, let us give our names here



lol. Tashkeel on da net, Masha'Allah!


May Allah accept the effort of the Tablighi jamaat, and make them go from strength to strength. Ameen


The effort of the TJ is that we muslims become walking examples of the Quran in the way of Rasulullah (saw). We've all got the Quran on our shelves; lets bring it in to our lives.


Then by example, like in the times of the Sahaaba, people will turn to Islam by seeing the character of the muslims. The non Muslims should follow us; we shouldn't be following them!!


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