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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 15:16

I don't get something!

Are acts like this supposed to reduce the incidents of blashphemy towards Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam)?
Have they working in the past?
Will it work now?

If the intention is to preserve the honour of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) then are these effective?

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 15:28

Rasullullah sallallahualayhiwassallam, is the best of creation, will we be accountable for bias or rude worldly reactions towards him, his status can never be effected, harmed or damaged in any way.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 15:29

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I understand and appreciate your questions, but I think they were asking for it.

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According to The Independent, Charbonnier, defending his decision to publish cartoons of the prophet Muhammad in 2012, said, "Muhammad isn't sacred to me. I don't blame Muslims for not laughing at our drawings. I live under French law. I don't live under Koranic law."

The last cartoon Charbonnier drew makes light of the constant threats Charlie Hebdo faced; it reads "Still no attack in France. Wait! We can send best wishes till end of January"

Also the Shari' rule (which would be implemented under a caliph) for blasphemy is death.

Wallahu alum.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 15:39

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Arab League and top Muslim body condemn Paris attack

07 January 2015 14:53 GMT

The Arab League and Al-Azhar, Sunni Islam's most prestigious centre of learning, both condemned a deadly attack Wednesday on a Paris satirical newspaper.

"Arab League chief Nabil al-Arabi strongly condemns the terrorist attack on Charlie Hebdo newspaper in Paris," the Arab League said in a statement.

Al-Azhar condemned the "criminal attack," saying that "Islam denounces any violence".

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 15:54

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I read and translated some of the works of Shaykh (Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA) a long time ago on the matter and your position is correct. However at the sametime I read the opinion of other Ulama (from Pakistan) is in the present climate this isn't helping at all rather it is provoking dishonour of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam).

The intention is to induce fear of performing these despicable acts is the objective being reached or have these sick cartoons have been put firmly back into the limelight?

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 16:08

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The intention is to induce fear of performing these despicable acts is the objective being reached or have these sick cartoons have been put firmly back into the limelight?

I think the fear level has risen. Of course the cartoons come back into the limelight, but the fear or repercussion will also rise. Which probably means they won't have professionals doing the cartoons anymore. Yes, maybe freelancers and useless people but, not those who are in high position.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 16:14

Additional information on blasphemy.

www.muftisays.com/forums/55-members-research-group/7075-b...

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 16:31

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However at the sametime I read the opinion of other Ulama (from Pakistan) is in the present climate this isn't helping at all rather it is provoking dishonour of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam).

I don't know what to say or think regarding this other opinion, because when the rules for blasphemy did come about and when they were implemented, the number of Muslims were few in comparison. Today we have over 2 billion Muslims, out of which, so many sit back and relax because they feel it's not politically correct at this time to follow or agree with the sharia!

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 16:43

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Yes I see your point and need to read up on the issue and its evidence and do some research

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 17:21

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 18:01

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 18:17

With regard to the Sunnah, Abu Dawood (4362) narrated from ‘Ali that a Jewish woman used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and say bad things about him, so a man strangled her until she died, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) ruled that no blood money was due in this case.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said in al-Saarim al-Maslool (1/162): This hadeeth is jayyid, and there is a corroborating report in the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Abbaas which we will quote below.
This hadeeth clearly indicates that it was permissible to kill that woman because she used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

The Scholars have agreed if the person is insulting, but its not causing fitnah and disruption, then killing is not allowed. But even in the Quran, a person who causes fithnah and violence can be killed.

Abu Dawood (4361) narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas that a blind man had a freed concubine (umm walad) who used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and say bad things about him. He told her not to do that but she did not stop, and he rebuked her but she did not heed him. One night, when she started to say bad things about the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and insult him, he took a short sword or dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it and killed her. The following morning that was mentioned to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He called the people together and said, “I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right over him that he should stand up.” The blind man stood up and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, I am the one who did it; she used to insult you and say bad things about you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not give up her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was kind to me. Last night she began to insult you and say bad things about you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.” Thereupon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Bear witness, there is no blood money due for her.”
(Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 3655)

Al-Nasaa’i narrated (4071) that Abu Barzah al-Aslami said: A man spoke harshly to Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq and I said, ‘Shall I kill him?’ He rebuked me and said, ‘That is not for anyone after the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) .’” (Saheeh al-Nasaa’i, 3795) (Killing on insulting any other person except the Prophet (saw)

, is not allowed. But if you read the above ahadith i posted up, including this one, it shows that the person insulting him, can be killed)

According to Imam Maalik and Ahmad, the person who insults should be killed, even if the person repents.
On the basis of Saheeh Abi Dawood, 2334

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sometimes chose to forgive those who had insulted him, and sometimes he ordered that they should be executed, if that served a greater purpose. But now his forgiveness is impossible because he is dead, so the execution of the one who insults him remains the right of Allaah, His Messenger and the believers, and the one who deserves to be executed cannot be let off, so the punishment must be carried out.
Al-Saarim al-Maslool, 2/438

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 18:25

The kuffaar insulted the Prophet (PBUH) ever since the advent of Islam even after his death. Did we provoke them? Did we provoke Dante to write the Divine Comedy insulting Rasul Allah (SAW) and Hazrat Ali (RA)?
Our only 'provocation' is that we reject their deen, their customs and their laws. Without any solid argument they resort to insults. For which they should pay.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 19:52

The user above should be careful. Glancing on other forums I see supporters of IS and other groups using quran, hadith and Fiqh to justify their practices.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2015 19:58

the fatawa of the Salaf as understood by ulema e haq in modern times are enough for us...IS fanboys can justify whatever they want.

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