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Maulana Marghoob Ahmed (HA), Moulana Abdul Rauf (HA) & Batley Dispute

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 5th October 2014 22:47

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The issue of moon sighting in Britain is divisive and emotional. It raises passions and inflames emotions. They are two positions namely following Saudi Arabia or local (and adjacent) sighting to UK and there are Scholars on both sides. We have been reporting on Astronomical calculations (12 months of the year) and subsequent sightings from around the world for nearly a decade and will Insha’Allah continue to do so.

The Islamic Scholars of Batley (in UK) deliberated on the issue of moon sighting in considerable depth, visited Morocco and South Africa then unanimously agreed (a few years) to forego Saudi moon sighting. This year a Mosque (Henry Street Mosque) broke this pact and decided to revert to Saudi moon sighting. Shaykh (Maulana) Marghoob Ahmed (HA) today (05th of October 2014) at Masjid Heera (Deswbury) addressed the issue highlighting the matter in great detail and articulated the response of all (united) Ulama with the greatest respect, humility and dignity. Shaykh (Maulana) Marghoob Ahmed (HA)’s daughter also happens to be the daughter-in-law of Shaykh (Maulana) Abdur-Rauf (HA) who is the Imam of Henry Street Mosque. Those who follow Saudi moon sighting twisted the matter, deliberately edited the talk (leaving out key areas) and started maliciously spreading rumours of family feud.

This is an English translation of the entire talk (unedited) being presented with the permission and consent of Shaykh (Maulana) Marghoob Ahmed (HA).

central-mosque.com/index.php/Civil/batley-wifaq.html

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 5th October 2014 23:29
JazakAllah brother Muadh for translating, some coward edited 5 minutes out of 35 minutes bayan and spread it on whatsapp
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 6th October 2014 11:53
Jazakallah bro muadh for taking the time out to listen, research , translate, now the exact bayan is out there and the mischief makers can't play with it anymore
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 6th October 2014 12:58

This is what I don't get about this issue:

  1. The Pro-Saudi camp distributed a shoddy cut/paste version (5 minutes 6 seconds long) on WhatsApp and labelled it as "Emotional Outburst" by Maulana Marghoob (HA)?
  2. I translated the full piece with the ability to download and listen to the whole piece

My effort is "labelled" a waste of time while their effort was "serving Islam"?

How come?

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 6th October 2014 13:15
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who called it waste of time. MashAllah ur link is also spreading on whatsapp since last evening
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 6th October 2014 13:21

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Over 1000 hits in 13 hours and 36 unique people have read it since my last message so yes someone is spreading it...

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 6th October 2014 16:46
A straight forward - to the point, wonderfully presented bayan in the presence of Hadhrat Maulana Yaqoob Qasmi D.B.
Regardless of what people say more and more people are gradually beginning to follow the Batley Moonsighting Criteria (BMC). The Jumma Masjid (opposite Henry Street) was full packed with musallees having to pray outside.

As for Hadhrat Maulana Abdur Raf SB then his opinion is that he will follow whatever the masjid committee decides. This is exactly what Maulana Marghoob Sb elucidated upon, that Ulama should be the leaders rather than themselves following the laymen.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 7th October 2014 00:23
salaam

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As for Hadhrat Maulana Abdur Raf SB then his opinion is that he will follow whatever the masjid committee decides.


is this the official stance of moulana abdur rauf saheb?
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 7th October 2014 12:21
Wa'alaikum Salam

Nothing is official as of yet. But, Hadhrat Maulana DB does not want to comment regarding the moon sighting issue and has therefore decided he will follow whatever the committee does. The dalail/reasons for his ruju' are still unclear.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 7th October 2014 12:52
Imam Abu Hanifa once saw some children playing on the slide, so he reminded them to be careful not to slip and break their bones.

One child replied back, Oh Imam, you should also be careful. If you slip, the entire Ummah will drown.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 7th October 2014 20:04
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he really needs to clarify his position. the saudi followers are using him as proof that they are correct.
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