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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 31st July 2014 22:02

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Can you answer 2 simple questions first:

  1. Do you think its Istigatha?
  2. Why or why not?

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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 31st July 2014 22:05
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As brother Muadh says,

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Can you answer 2 simple questions first:

1. Do you think its Istigathar?
2. Why or why not?

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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 31st July 2014 22:07
is our conversation here hundreds of miles apart where you are asking me for an answer, istigatha? why or why not?
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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 31st July 2014 22:11
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Well it is being asked now to get to a point of mutual understanding.

One step at a time inshaAllah.
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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 1st August 2014 14:45
There's no need for making the laymen do controversial acts.
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 1st August 2014 15:02
Why haven't Maulana been directly contacted yet by the brothers there in Uk and sought a clarification. I am assuming it shouldnt be hard to get intouch with him and take the matter up with him. Kindly try to do so and then inform us all here what explanation has been given .
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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 1st August 2014 15:36
Mureed - What's there to seek clarification about regarding a clear cut statement or is this a privilege afforded to Hadhrat only. Everybody else getting fatwa of kufr &/or shirk.
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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 1st August 2014 15:52
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I think there are very little chances that Hadhrat Maulana will sit down with a "non-Hadhrat" and discuss the issue (no pun intended towards highly respected Hadhrat Shaykh whatsoever). Maybe the concern could be brought to the awareness of Hadhrat Maulana Abdur Raheem, of course in a respectful fashion.

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We shouldn't go so far to question Hadhrat's Aqeedah. It was simply inappropriate/wrong to do that and unless one is a Nabi one is always capable of erring. I witnessed big time buzurgs/scholars of our time performing Salah with certain actions clearly against the Sunnah method, now (1) it didn't decrease my reverence for them in the least and (2) at the same time Hadhrat so-and-so's action is not proof enough to establish any matter of Deen. Just my humble two cents.
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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 1st August 2014 16:08
The fataawa will not be of kufr or shirk unless he believes that the Nabi (saw) can hear him. It will be classed as an innovation.

Wallahu A'lum.
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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 1st August 2014 16:36
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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 1st August 2014 16:40
Avoid conversational, one word, one phrase posts. This is not a chat forum but a forum to share useful and Halaal information and knowledge.
Please maintain respect for each other and Ulamaa (if topic is about a scholar) by avoiding accusations and slanderous comments. Also remember that in order for criticism to be constructive, it must be channeled in the right direction. If there is any doubt in a matter, it is better to ask, clarify or to remain silent rather than to speak ill of another person.
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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 1st August 2014 16:42
can someone please clarify exaclty the bidah/kufr/shirk that is happening here
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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 1st August 2014 17:27
ASSALAMU ALAIKUM

4 Shawwaal 1435 (31 July 2014)

Your e-mail dated 30 July 2014 refers.

The 'hazrats' of this era are experts in the art of bid'ah. They are hard on the heels of the Barelwi bid'atis in the pursuit of the science of bid'ah They labour under the impression that they have the knowledge and spirituality to set aside the Shariah which the Fuqaha have formulated since the era of Khairul Quroon. The 'thikr' which the hazrat advises is bid'ah and not permissible. Shaitaan is an extremely cunning ustaadh. He approaches under 'deeni' hues to destroy the ulama and the sheikhs.

Was-salaam

A.S. Desai

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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 1st August 2014 17:27

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May Allah (SWT) reward you for recommending this option which has obviously escaped the minds of millions so here are the contact details:

  1. Website:
  2. Address: Holcombe Hall, Holcombe Old Rd, Bury BL8 4NG
  3. Phone: +44-1706 826 106
  4. Darul-uloom Bury on Facebook) unofficial but they post a lot of updates etc so have direct links
  5. Maulana Abdur Raheem Limbada (HA) on twitter
  6. Maulana Abdur Raheem Limbada (HA) on facebook

Please proceed on our behalf and post the response.

Jazakallahu Khayarn

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Hazrat (HA) makes no such claim of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassalla) hearing this! Infact he (implicitly) states that Angels will be carrying this...

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  1. IF you are an Alim: Please explain if it is or isn't Istigatha and why not?
  2. IF you are NOT an Alim: See bottom 2 Fatwaas of OP and also refer to Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA)'s Imdadul-Fatawa Volume 5 (Page 357) and REFRAIN from such action.

I havn't accused anybody of anything so please stick to the subject at hand.

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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 1st August 2014 18:03
Sorry to be so dumb, but can whoever is making claims of kufr/shirk/bidah and posting random fatwas of kufr/shirk/bidah please explain *exactly* what the kufr/shirk/bidah is in this case. Is it the use of 'ya'? is it the gathering? is it reciting something together? is it the repetition? is it the use of words that are not in the quran and hadith? is it intention of the shaykh?
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