Eid 2014 Astronomical Calculations

You have no idea what you are talking about!

Statement of Shaykh (Mufti) Taha Karaan (HA) and MJC added to my post above...

Unable to find the show which you are referring to? Can you help further?

Jzk

Ridicolous!

1. Shaykh Taha Karaan (HA) is uniting the Muslims of country on local sighting. Bury has no official statement or policy but practically follow (proven wrong) Saudi sighting.
2. Shaf'aes of South Africa have issued a detailed perspective and opinion on their position with detailed evidence. Bury has NEVER written half a page on the matter!
3. Shaykh (Mufti) Taha Karaan (HA) specifically spoke about the current issue and provided guidance, Bury declines to talk or comment on most things pertinent to British Muslims let alone moon sighting!

How on Earth did you come to think of both positions to be similar?

Their positions are not "identical" and I don't think that you will stoop to that level of stupidity to argue that! So let’s try to break down your argument of “similarity”.

Unity in itself is not a principle of Islam in any shape, form or fashion. In fact this was one of the arguments of idolaters of Makkah that Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) had actually broken the unity of Makkah so they proposed a compromise of a sort but Allah (SWT) revealed this!

If an Islamically valid position exists then there is no harm in being “united”. In UK the position to follow Saudi Arabia year round is INVALID position from various different perspectives as follows:

1. Saudi Scholars who oversee and reguilate their own moon sighting DO NOT give a Fatwa for others to follow them in fact their position is OPPOSITE
2. Saudi moon sighting is only done for Ramadhan and Eidain and rest of the year precalculated Ummul-Qura is followed. If there is moon sighting for 9 months of the year then there is NO SHARIAH ACKNOWLEDGED SYSTEM of informing British Muslims at all!
3. During the months where actual moon sighting occurs it VIOLATES The principles of Hanafi Madhab of Jame-e-Ghafeer, forget 50 or 500 not even 10 people come forward!
4. A valid moon sighting needs to conveyed in a valid Shariah ACKNOWLEDGED system as per the Madhab there is NO SUCH SYSTEM in Britain either by Darul-uloom Bury or Hizbul-Ulama
5. Saudi moon sighting is not only NOT followed in India, Pakistan but actually DENOUNCED as per various Fatawaa. In fact Shaykh (Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA) writes that if we had confidence in their system then we (in Pakitan) would follow it

Now lets evaluate Shaykh (Mufti) Taha Karaan (HA)'s position:

• It is the position of Imam Nawawi (RA) to have united Matal'e for a geography where Salah times (and sunrise/sunset) don't vary much which is the dominant position of the Shaf'ae Madhab

Shaykh (Mufti) Taha Karaan (HA) is not TWISTING his Madhab or following a WRONG position for the sake of unity!

Everyone with an ounce of common sense will see the difference and note that there is no similarity between Darul-uloom Bury and Shaykh (Mufti) Taha Karaan (HA) at all!

Caution: The second email was not brought to my attention it now has and I have updated this post. I apologise for the earlier confusion.

Salam,

I can’t talk on behalf of others. As for Odeh criteria, there is a refereed published paper about it view inline , so you can refer to it. Odeh criteria shows that it was possible to see the crescent from South Africa on Sunday because there were crescents in past with similar values and they were seen. You can find it in the paper.


Best Regards

Mohammad Shawkat Odeh

IAC Director

International Astronomical Center (IAC)

P.O. Box 45014, Abu Dhabi, UAE

http://www.astcenter.org/

Second email...

Salam Dear Br.

I agree with you, seeing the crescent by naked eye was not possible! The only possibility was seeing it by optical aid and with difficultly as well. We know from Scheafer’s paper that there is 15% false honest mistakes usually done by crescent observers.


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Best Regards

Mohammad Shawkat Odeh

IAC Director

International Astronomical Center (IAC)