Eid 2014 Astronomical Calculations

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd July 2014 12:17

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Shawwal 1435 Calculations:

1 When is Eid 1435 ? [English]

2 When is Eid 1435 ? [اردو]

3 When isEid 1435 ? [বাংলা]

4 Saudi Arabian Astronomer: The Islamic holiday of Eid al-Fitr is likely to fall on Tuesday (July 29), marking the end of the holy month of Ramadan. According to Ali Al-Shukri, it will be difficult to see the crescent on Sunday because the moonlight will be dim and the moon will set around 11 minutes after the sunset.

Shawwal 1435 Calculations for Saudi Arabia:

Dr Ali Mohammad Al-Shukri (Physics Department) King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals and member of Saudi's official Eastern Provence Hilal Sighting Committee states that there is no possibility of moon sighting from any Islamic countries on Sunday the 27th of July 2014. His tabled for Makkah and message is reproduced below:

Day	Date	Sunset	Moonset	Moon Altitude & Azimuth (at sunset)	According to:
Day	Date	Sunset	Moonset	Moon Altitude & Azimuth (at sunset)	Start of Ramadhan	Umm-ulQura	Prediction
Sunday	27/7	19:03	19:14	2.5 ° 282.5 °	29^th Ramadhan	30^th Ramadhan	29^th Ramadhan
Monday	28/7	19:02	19:52	11.1 ° 275.6 °	01^st Shawwal	01^st Shawwal	30^th Ramadhan
Tuesday	29/7	19:02	20:29	19.4 ° 268.6 °	02^nd Shawwal	02^nd Shawwal	02^nd Shawwal

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Shawwal 1435 Calculations for South Africa:

SA Astronomical Observatory Predictions : The new crescent Moon can generally be seen only if it sets at least 46 minutes after the Sun has set. Astronomers at SA Astronomical Observatory have how ever sighted the Moon earlier – setting at least 33 min after sunset – from Signal Hill in Cape Town, but only if the age of the Moon is at least 24hr old at sunset. May be visible with optical aid from the southern Atlantic and the southernmost tip of Africa.

City in South Africa	Sunset	Moonset	Time lag	Moon Age
Cape Town	18:03	18:46	43 minutes	17.5 Hours
Johannesburg	17:39	18:16	37 minutes	17 Hours

Shawwal 1435 Calculations for Pakistan:

Shaykh (Mufti) Sultan Alam (HA) (Head Astronomy department, Jamitaur-Rasheed, Karachi) states that if the horizons are clear then there is clear chance of moon being sighted in Southern Pakistan and slim chance of sighting in Northern Pakistan on the 29th of Ramadhan equivalent to Monday the 28th of July 2014.

Shawwal 1435 Calculations for the world:

1 The Astronomical New Moon is on Saturday July 26, 2014 at 22:42 UT. There is no possibility of moonsighting on that day.

1435shw 7-26-2014

2 On July 27, the moon can be seen with difficulty in South America, but can easily be seen in Polynesian Islands. Johannesburg Planetarium

1435shw 7-27-2014

3 On July 28, plain sailing and sighting in many parts of the world.

1435shw 7-28-2014

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd July 2014 13:34

Assalaamu Alaykum

Looking at this charts what are the realistic possibilities of sighting on Sunday?

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd July 2014 14:19

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W-Salam,

Updated with South African information...

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Do the Ulama allow optical aid to sight the moon?

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd July 2014 16:26

Heres what South Africa's Br Abdur Razzak Ebrahim posted on the ICOUK and ICOP forums. He's the brother who usually sends the reports to www.Moonsighting.com and www.icoproject.org....(since the past many years):

Assalaamu-Alayqum

Respected Members and Friends.

POSSIBILITY OF SIGHTING THE SHAWAAL HILAAL IN CAPE TOWN POST-SUNSET ON 27/07/2014

According to records compiled over the past 45 years a young waxing crescent has to satisfy certain parameter values (location of Cape Town) in order to be sighted by the naked-eye.

On the evening of 27/07/2014 the values in 3 sectors fail to meet the required minimum:-

Elongation, crescent width, and percentage illumination coupled with the magnitude.

To the best of my knowledge and experience �" the Hilaal cannot be seen on 27/07/2014.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd July 2014 16:47

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AsSalaamu Alaykum,

Based on science there is a possibility that the moon can be sighted in South Africa using Optical Aid. I know that Ulama in Pakistan allow it but do South African Ulama use binoculars or telescopes to sight the moon or just permit pure naked eye sighting?

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[quote]ASSALAMU ALAIKUM

25 Ramadhaan 1435 (23 July 2014)

abu mohammed

Your e-mail dated 22 July 2014 refers.

Whilst optical aid may be enlisted to plot the position of the
crescent in order to facilitate sighting, it is necessary to see the
hilaal with the naked eye to confirm the sighting for the purpose of
commencing the month.

Was-salaam

A.S. Desai

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Mujlisul Ulama of S.A.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 24th July 2014 02:45

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thats Mufti sahib's personal fiqhi view on the actual issue of using optical aids. not too sure what the official criteria/s is there of the 1-2 responsible orgs* that people follow for hilal announcements

* one of the orgs is lead by Molana Ebrahim Bham and most of us know the kind of words Mufti Desai has used when describing Molana.

Some info here on Muadh's past discussions about S.Africa's moonsighting http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?62455-Moon-sighting-in-South-Africa

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 24th July 2014 07:47

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Assalaamu 'Alaykum

Are you saying that Mawlana Ebrahim Bham's org (Jamiat) permits sighting with optical aid?

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 24th July 2014 09:33

Aaww. No brother. Just saying just because Mufti Desai has a view , that may not necessarily mean it's the view of the actual responsible hilal announcing org/s in S.Africa ....though most likely none of the orgs do accept such sightings. Is there any place where their sighting criterias can be looked at?

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 24th July 2014 11:45

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After asking multiple people I am none the wiser of the collective position of South Africans on Optical Aid, my best guess is that they don't allow it but I am not certain.

Anyways page updated with specific information for SA, Saudia and Pakistan

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 24th July 2014 11:47

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 24th July 2014 11:55

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OP updated and Jzk for the Fatwa...

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 24th July 2014 12:38

emailed UUCSA last night and their reply, recieved this morning is below (it is as per bhai AbuM reply from Mufti Desai:

Assalamualaikum

Dear Brother

Kindly note that the United Ulama Council of South Africa (UUCSA) limits the
sighting of the moon to the naked eye. It does not accept sighting made via
optical aids. We are not aware of any other organization in South Africa
that approves of using optical aids.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 24th July 2014 12:45

In bhai Muadh's OG post: Dr Ali Mohammad Al-Shukri is a member of Saudi's official Eastern Provence Hilal Sighting Committee

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2014 10:11

Birmingham Central Mosque announces Eid likely to be on Tuesday

www.centralmosque.org.uk/3/74/eid-mubarak

The month of shawal is HIGHLY expected to commence on Tuesday 29 July 2014. The Crescent moon is NOT Visible for the horizons of UK, Morrocco or even Saudi Arabia. According to expert reports from South Africa the crescent moon will NOT be seen on Sunday 27 July 2014 anywhere in South Africa. Therefore, under all circumstances it is HIGHLY expected that EID UL FITR is on Tuesday 29 July 2014.

Eid-ul-Fitr Timings

Jama’t	Timing	Language
1.	7.00am	Arabic
2.	8.00am	Urdu
3.	9.00am	English
4.	10.00am	Urdu
5	11.00am	English

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astro.ukho.gov.uk/websurf/

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 8th August 2014 09:59

Qamar Uddin wrote:

Dear ICOP Members,

Assalamu Alaykum wa-Rahmatullahi wa-Barakatuh.

I have received a lot of questions/criticisms for predicting the moon may not be seen in South Africa on Sunday 27 July 2014 based on their previous moon sighting track records.

Some of our Ulama have gone as far as commenting that the scientific data on moon sighting must be flawed(!), otherwise how is it possible for over 20 witnesses to have sighted the moon by naked eye in Johannesburg (South Africa), when scientifically it was not possible to do so?

Therefore, I have written a short report titled, "Controversy of Moon Sighting in South Africa" from my personal experiences and hope the reader will understand why I believe the Johannesburg witnesses have mistaken something else for the moon!

Please do not hesitate to email me your comments and feel free to forward it to your contacts.

PS.

None of the Saudi Hilal Committees reported sighting the moon on Sunday 27 July 2014, but the usual early sighters from near Riyadh (Shaqra/Sudair) also claimed sighting by the naked eye!

Wassalam,

Controversy of Moon Sighting in South Africa.pdf

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Eid-ul-Fitr Timings

Jama’t

Timing

Language

1.

7.00am

Arabic

2.

8.00am

Urdu

3.

9.00am

English

4.

10.00am

Urdu

5

11.00am

English

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