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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 01:49
salaam

is there any virtue or requirement to keep a relatives grave from being overgrown with weeds/grass etc?

Jazakallah.
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 03:25
Q: With regards to flowers on the grave: I am highly confused that this is not permissible. Putting flowers on the graves of loved ones has been passed on from generation to generation. Lots of Muslims do it so I am highly confused that we only know now that this is unacceptable. Is there a quranic ayath or hadith to refer to?

A. It is Makrooh to remove grass, etc. which is growing naturally on the grave. It is not Makrooh to remove dry grass.

Placing of flowers on the grave is not proven from the Sunnah nor was it the practice of the Sahaabah (Radhiyallaahu Anhum). Those in favour of placing flowers on the grave quote the narration wherein it is mentioned that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi wa Sallam) passed by two graves whose inmates were receiving punishment. He asked for a green twig, broke it in two pieces and pushed one on each grave, hoping that the punishment will be decreased for as long as the twigs remain green. Using this narration as proof for placing flowers on the grave is erroneous for the following reasons:

a) Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi wa Sallam) used green twigs and not flowers.
b) He pushed them into the earth and did not place them on the grave.
c) He was informed through revelation (Wahi) that they were receiving punishment.

We will never know if the inmate of a grave is receiving punishment or not. We will have hope that the inmate is in comfort; therefore we beseech Allah Ta'aala for His mercy for the inmate of the grave.

d) Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi wa Sallam) pushed the twigs with his own blessed hands. The blessing in his hands could be the cause of the punishment being decreased.
e) This incident is unique to Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi wa Sallam) and not for everyone because the condition of the inmates of the two graves was revealed to him and this privilege is his alone. Others do not receive revelation. Placing of flowers on a grave must be avoided. It is the custom of other nations and not of Muslims.�

Allah Ta'aala knows best.

Mufti Siraj says:
It is not permissible to place flowers on a grave because this is not established from any Hadeeth or practice of the Sahaabah. Furthermore, it is also a practice of the Nasaaraa in our times. It is therefore, Haraam and Bid'ah to place flowers on the grave. However, it will be permissible to place a dry twig or branch on the grave, but this should be done once only, not on a continuous basis.

And Allah Ta'aala knows best.

Moulana Yusuf Laher
Checked by: Mufti Siraj Desai
islamqa.org/hanafi/askmufti/45521

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 10:03
السلام عليكم

In my mosque also we follow the sunnah of planting 2 twigs on the grave after burial.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 10:20
Wa Alaikum Assalam w.w.

^ Guess its done almost everywhere..
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 10:54
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I have not come across anything in the Shaf'ae Madhab about planting twigs either, can you confirm?

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 12:01
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my question is just about cleaning up on/around the grave when it is overgrown with grass and weeds. not removing the grass, but just trimming it down.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 12:40

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It is prescribed in Islam to maintain cemetery and gravesites in clean tidy state and not to trample, disrespect or abandon them. Shaykh (Mufti) Yusuf Ludhyanwi Shaheed (RA) writes:

Q: How should a grave be constructed in Islam, permanent or temporary (structure)? Please respond in the light of Qur'aan and Sunnah?

Islamic guidlines with regards to grave are as follows:

  1. Grave should be dug (wide) and deep (at least up to the Chest)
  2. Grave should neither be levelled nor raised extravagantly rather it should be about a span higher then ground level
  3. Grave shouldn’t be made into a permanent structure but it should be kept (temporary and rudimentary). Inside the blessed Roza the grave of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and Sahabah (RA) are temporary, it is permissible to smooth it with some wet mud etc
  4. Grave shouldn’t be respected so it appears like an act of worship e.g. praying in its direction or making Tawaf or standing (facing it) with hands tied (as a sign of respect) nor should it disrespected e.g. to trample it or to rest against it or to urinate or defecate on it or to throw trash at it or to spit at it etc.

Q:  The mother of my friend has passed away. Is it permissible to place a tombstone with her name on the grave?

It is permissible to place a tombstone for identity but verses of the Qur’aan etc. shouldn’t be inscribed on it.

Q:   People go to throw dirt on the grave while wearing sandals of shoes and without waiting for the fatiha to finish they sit on the side, is their action permissible? Please respond in detail as to which actions of the people who go to throw dirt should perform?

It is written in Fatawa Alamgiri that it is permissible to walk around in the cemetery with shoes. However it is from Adab to take the shoes off. It is also written that permission is not needed to return from after the burial. Those who are present for Burial site should remain at the gravesite for a little while and make dua (and Astaghfaar) for the deceased and make special dua for the deceased to remain steadfast when answering the questions of the Munkir and Nakeer.

Q:   I accidentally stepped on a grave, how should this be rectified? I have heard that the punishment of this (sin) is severe?

Make Astaghfaar and seek forgiveness from Allah (SWT). It is better to read Fatiha from a distance then to try to get close and trample the graves.

Q:   I accidentally stepped on a grave, how should this be rectified? I have heard that the punishment of this (sin) is severe?

Make Astaghfaar and seek forgiveness from Allah (SWT). It is better to read Fatiha from a distance then to try to get close and trample the graves.

Q:  Graves are often (almost) joined in the cemetery and it becomes imperative to walk on some graves in order to get to a particular grave. What should be done in such cases?

It is not permissible to trample the graves. If it’s possible to reach the particular gravesite then one should proceed otherwise Fatiha should be read from a distance and trampling graves should be avoided.

Q:  Some people make the cemetery a throughway and in their journey their feet often fall upon graves and it cannot be certain that they will avoid graves. I asked some people that such passing through cemetery should be avoided but they have paid no attention to my advice.  

It is mentioned in Hadeeth that trampling upon, sitting upon and leaning against graves is prohibitive so these actions are not permissible.

Q:  Some elders are buried in Khanqah or Madarsah instead of cemetery while history tells us that after a century or half a century these gravesites become sites of Shirk and Bid’ah. How is this action?

Fuqaha have written that it is Makrooh to bury elders and Mashaykh in the courtyard of Mosques or Madaris.

س… اسلام میں قبر کس طرح بنائی جاتی ہے، پختہ یا کچی؟ قرآن و حدیث کی روشنی میں جواب دیں، مہربان ہوگی۔

ج… اسلام نے قبر کے بارے میں جو تعلیم دی ہے، اس کا خلاصہ یہ ہے:

۱:… قبر کشادہ اور گہری کھودی جائے (کم از کم آدمی کے سینے تک ہو)۔

۲:…قبر کو نہ زیادہ اُونچا کیا جائے، نہ بالکل زمین کے برابر رہے، بلکہ قریباً ایک بالشت زمین سے اُونچی ہونی چاہئے۔

۳:…قبر کو پختہ نہ کیا جائے، نہ اس پر کوئی قبہ تعمیر کیا جائے، بلکہ قبر کچی ہونی چاہئے، خود روضہٴ اقدس کے اندر آنحضرت صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم اور حضراتِ شیخین رضی اللہ عنہما کی قبورِ مبارکہ بھی کچی ہیں، البتہ کچھ مٹی سے لپائی کردینا جائز ہے۔

۴:… قبر کی نہ تو ایسی تعظیم کی جائے کہ عبادت کا شبہ ہو، مثلاً: سجدہ کرنا، اس کی طرف نماز پڑھنا، اس کے گرد طواف کرنا، اس کی طرف ہاتھ باندھ کر کھڑے ہونا، وغیرہ وغیرہ۔ اور نہ اس کی بے حرمتی کی جائے، مثلاً: اس کو روندنا، اس کے ساتھ ٹیک لگانا، اس پر پیشاب پاخانہ کرنا، اس پر گندگی پھینکنا یا اس پر تھوکنا وغیرہ۔

قبر پر شناخت کے لئے پتھر لگانا

س… میرے دوست کی والدہ کا انتقال ہوگیا ہے، وہ کہہ رہا ہے کہ قبر کے اُوپر نام وغیرہ لکھا ہوا پتھر لگاسکتے ہیں یا نہیں؟

ج… شناخت کے لئے پتھر لگانا دُرست ہے، مگر اس پر آیات وغیرہ نہ لکھی جائیں، شناخت کے لئے نام لکھ دیا جائے۔

مٹی دینے جانے والے قبرستان میں کن چیزوں پر عمل کریں؟

س… میّت کے ساتھ لوگ مٹی دینے جاتے ہیں، مگر اکثریت سے لوگ پاوٴں میں چپل اور جوتے پہنے ہوئے مٹی دیتے ہیں، اور فاتحہ ختم ہوئے بغیر ہی ایک طرف جاکر بیٹھ جاتے ہیں، کیا یہ حرکت ان لوگوں کی جائز ہے؟ اگر نہیں تو پوری تفصیل سے جواب صادر فرمائیں کہ مٹی دینے جانے والوں کو قبرستان میں کن کن چیزوں پر عمل کرنا چاہئے؟

ج… عالمگیری میں ہے کہ: قبرستان میں جوتے پہن کر چلنا جائز ہے، تاہم ادب یہ ہے کہ جوتے اُتار دے، اور یہ بھی لکھا ہے کہ میّت کے دفن ہونے کے بعد واپسی کے لئے کسی سے اجازت لینے کی ضرورت نہیں، جو حضرات دفن کے وقت موجود ہوں وہ تدفین کے بعد کچھ دیر وہاں ٹھہر کر میّت کے لئے دُعا و اِستغفار میں مشغول رہیں، اور میّت کے لئے منکر نکیر کے جواب میں ثابت قدمی کی دُعا کریں۔

قبر پر غلطی سے پاوٴں پڑنے کی تلافی کس طرح ہو؟

س… ایک دفعہ غلطی سے پاوٴں ایک قبر پر پڑگیا تھا، تو اس کی تلافی کس طرح ممکن ہے؟ سنا ہے اس کی سزا بہت سخت ہوتی ہے۔

ج… اِستغفار کرنا چاہئے اور خدا سے توبہ کرنا چاہئے۔

قبروں کو روندنے کے بجائے دُور ہی سے فاتحہ پڑھ دے

س… قبرستانوں میں اکثر قبریں ملی ملی ہوتی ہیں، اور کسی مخصوص قبر تک پہنچنے کے لئے قبروں پر چلنا ناگزیر ہے، ایسے میں کیا کیا جائے؟

ج… قبروں کو روندنا جائز نہیں، پس بچ بچاکر اس قبر تک جاسکتا ہے تو چلا جائے، ورنہ دُور ہی سے فاتحہ پڑھ لے، قبروں کو روندنے سے پرہیز کرے۔

قبروں پر چلنا اور ان سے تکیہ لگانا جائز نہیں

س… بعض لوگ آنے جانے میں قبرستان کو اپنا راستہ بناتے ہیں، اور اس کی وجہ سے ان کے پاوٴں کبھی قبر پر بھی پڑجاتے ہیں اور کبھی قبر کا پتہ بھی نہیں چلتا، میں نے لوگوں سے کہا کہ اچھی بات نہیں ہے جو آپ قبروں کے اُوپر سے گزرتے ہیں اور قبروں کی بے حرمتی کرتے ہیں، مگر ان لوگوں پر کوئی اثر نہیں ہوتا، کیا اس طرح قبرستان میں مرد یا عورت کا آنا جانا جائز ہے؟

ج… حدیث میں قبروں کو روندنے، ان پر بیٹھنے اور ان سے تکیہ لگانے کی ممانعت آئی ہے، اس لئے یہ اُمور جائز نہیں۔

س… بزرگوں کو عام طور پر عام قبرستان کے بجائے خانقاہ یا مدرسے میں دفن کرنا، جبکہ تاریخ صاف بتاتی ہو کہ اسلاف میں صدی یا نصف صدی گزرنے کے بعد بزرگوں کے مقابر شرک و بدعت کے اڈّے بن گئے، کیسا ہے؟

اکابر و مشائخ کو مساجد یا مدارس کے احاطے میں دفن کرنے کو فقہائے کرام نے مکروہ لکھا ہے 

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 12:53
Interesting, just the other day I went to the cemetery, we have a separate section for burial but before this the burials where mixed with Christian graves.

I decided to wonder around the old section of the cemetery and came across Muslim graves from the early 80s which was not recognisable and hadn't been visited or maintained for many years.

I even found one grave which I recognised the surname, after calling someone we discovered this was a relative of theirs who they had forgotten where they were buried.

We have decided to get some masjids together and start a community clean up project where we will clean them areas and maintain them inshallah
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 13:59
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Ref: the 2 twigs

e) This incident is unique to Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi wa Sallam) and not for everyone because the condition of the inmates of the two graves was revealed to him and this privilege is his alone.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 14:33
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has it been explicitly mentioned in the sunnah that this act was for prophet (saw) alone?

what would be the problem to place a twig on a grave in a 'just in case' manner? it may help, but its not going to cause any harm.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 14:39
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Mufti Siraj says:
It is not permissible to place flowers on a grave because this is not established from any Hadeeth or practice of the Sahaabah. Furthermore, it is also a practice of the Nasaaraa in our times. It is therefore, Haraam and Bid'ah to place flowers on the grave. However, it will be permissible to place a dry twig or branch on the grave, but this should be done once only, not on a continuous basis.


From what I've understood from books, including the Salafi version is that this was a one off incident and its an attribute of the Prophet (saw) where Allah allowed him to witness the incident of the graves. It wasn't a practice made on every grave.

By us placing these things on the grave, are we implying that the person in the grave is being punished and by us placing anything there the punishment is uplifted?

If they aren't being punished, then what purpose is there in placing anything on the graves? We can't claim that they are being punished and we can't really say maybe either.

Allahu alum.
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 15:15
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السلام عليكم
I have often heard shafi'i imams mention that hadith as daleel. Perhaps due to the difference in usool, shafi's take it as proof and hanafis don't.

Wallahu alam.

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If they aren't being punished, then what purpose is there in placing anything on the graves? We can't claim that they are being punished and we can't really say maybe either.


Thats faulty logic, in that case we cant make dua for the dead for protection from the punishment of the grave as we do not know their condition.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 15:20
Here is some of the details from a Salafi book which is in line with the original answer.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 15:25
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Salafis are notorious for tampering Riyad us Saliheen regarding the hadith of grave. This of no academic value. So kindly post only credible information.

I believe the Deobandis do not take it as a 'sunnah' as per fiqhi definition. Any info on this.

JazakAllahu khairan.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 12th July 2014 15:35

how did they come to this conclusion from the above hadiths??

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It is clear from these two hadiths that the reason for the reduction of punishment is the prophets (saw) intercession or supplication, and not the green state of the branches. The letter (sic) merely was a sign indicating the duration of the reduction and not a cause of it.


edit: sorry. just re-read it. i missed the "through my intercession" part.
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