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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 31st May 2014 11:01
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I'm literally sick to death of hearing on the news or reading in the papers stories of girls being mass raped by filthy dirty lowlife pieces of trash.

What the hell is the government doing there ?
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 31st May 2014 11:46
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It's true... just one incident after another, but after reading many articles seems like it's the norm with no value for women.

Reminds me of the ignorant days before the blessed teachings of our prophet (saw)....it was through his teachings that women's status was raised and respected.....but then again even with this knowledge many Muslims are involved in oppressing and abusing women.

Although some of the recent incidents are related to non Muslims, where is the respect and dignity for human life?

Don't do to a woman, that you would not want for your mother, daughter or sister.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 31st May 2014 12:12
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 31st May 2014 12:22

I wish my daughter had been killed too, says mother of 'untouchable' India gang-rape victim


As outrage grows over the gang rape and murder of teenagers hanged from a tree, mother of 14-year-old 'untouchable' raped earlier this year says she wishes her daughter had been killed too


India's new government on Friday said it was planning to set up a special crisis cell to ensure justice for victims of sex attacks and two police officers were sacked in the wake of the rape and murder of the teenagers that has revived nationwide anger over the frequency and brutality of attacks.



By Dean Nelson, New Delhi7:50PM BST 30 May 2014


In a further shocking example of how women from India's "untouchable" caste are easy targets for rapists - and rarely get justice - The Daily Telegraph spoke to a mother who said she wished her raped daughter had died, such is the stigma surrounding the issue in her caste.

Brimti Ram, 40, had been living in a form of slavery with her Dalit family in Bagana village, around 100 miles from the capital Delhi, when her daughter and three friends were seized by five relatives and neighbours of their feudal landlord.

They later revealed that had been drugged and raped throughout the night.

She, her husband Lila Ram and their five children farm 20 acres of rice and barley fields - without pay - in a futile attempt to service a 7,000 generational debt that they can never pay off.

"It's not really a loan but something to control us," Lila Ram said yesterday.

Many of their fellow villagers live under the same bonded conditions, which are illegal but common in India. Rapes and sexual assaults of Dalits are common but often unreported and violence is frequent.

Fifteen "untouchable" boys have been murdered in the village in the last thirty years, his community leader Virender Singh Bagodia said on Friday.

The community is treated "a notch above how people treat their animals", he said.

Brimti Ram said they have been so shamed by their daughter's rape that neither she nor her 16-year-old sister will ever be able to find a husband.

She had heard of the murders of the two Dalit girls in Badaun in Uttar Pradesh and said she could understand the pain of their families, but she wishes her daughter had been killed too.

"Rape is loss of our reputation, livelihood, honour and the end of our future," she said. "If my daughter doesn't get married and suffers her entire life, wouldn't it have been better for her that she had been killed by those beasts?"

Her family is one of more than eighty who fled their village amid death threats from the upper caste Hindus in their village who had already banned them from sending their children to school, visiting the temple, or buying food from their shops. They are now living on a pavement in central Delhi and are too afraid to return to their homes.

"My daughter was a cheerful girl before but now she's just silent", she added.

She was speaking after aides to India's prime minister, Narendra Modi, demanded a report on the gang-rape and murder of two 14 and 15 year old "untouchable" cousins who were found hanging from a mango tree in Katra village, near Badaun.

The unnamed girls, aged 14 and 15, were, just like the girls in Bagana, going to the lavatory in a nearby field when they were grabbed by higher caste men - from the local Yadav peasant farmer community.

They were last seen by an uncle as they were being led away but when he challenged the men they threatened him with a gun.

The father of one of the girls yesterday said the police had "refused to look for my girl" and that when he confronted one of the accused at his home, he admitted abducting the girls but refused to release them. They were found hanging from a mango tree the following morning.

The father said the girls would still have been alive if the police had acted immediately.

Police in Uttar Pradesh said yesterday that three people, including a police constable, had been arrested in connection with the sex attack, while they were still searching for two further suspects. A "thorough investigation" is under way, police said,

Mukul Goel, a senior police officer, said it had still not been determined whether the victims had committed suicide or been strung up as a way of silencing them after they were raped.

Akhilesh Yadav, the chief minister of Uttar Pradesh, on Friday snapped at a reporter when asked about the rising number of rape cases in his state: "You are safe, why are you bothered?"

Campaigners said the two separate cases highlight the high level of sexual violence suffered by its low caste and "untouchable" women.

Many rapes of Dalits go unreported, campaigners said, citing official figures which show there were 1576 "untouchable" victims among the 24,923 women raped in India in 2012. There are 200 million Dalits in India - one sixth of its population.

The figures also highlight how upper caste police officers and political leaders often side with the higher caste accused, campaigners said.

The higher caste Hindu Jats and Yadavs accused of the Bagana gang rapes and the mango tree murders are among northern India's most powerful groups. Mulayam Singh Yadav, whose party controls the government in Uttar Pradesh recently questioned whether boys who "make mistakes" should be hanged for rapes where the victims die. The Jats in Haryana were one of the most extensively courted groups in the Indian general election campaign.

Brinda Karat, the veteran women's rights campaigner and Communist leader, said it was not uncommon today in India for Dalits to live in conditions of slavery and that rape and sexual violence was a regular feature of it.

Many rapes and sexual assaults of poor Dalit girls happen when they go to relieve themselves in fields, while many upper caste young men believe they have "first choice" rights over any Dalit girl they prefer.

As more Dalit children attend school, forbidden mixed caste friendships and romances have developed which have led to "honour killings".

"Love has become the new battlefield where caste supremacy is being played out in India. It's an indication of change and assertion by young Dalits", she said.

It also shows that "India remains a land where the worst kind of caste discrimination and violence still exists".


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www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/10865179/I-...


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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 31st May 2014 12:39
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The worst thing is there is no one to stand up for them, no one to champion their rights if any. It's sad to see such culture still exists in the 21st century.

What hope do these oppressed have ? None.

Allah is with oppressed even if he/she may be a non muslim, and the oppressors will get what they deserve surely.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 31st May 2014 13:06
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The reason nothing is done and no pressure is put on them from the rest of the world is simple:

The rapists and oppressors are not Muslim

No other factor at all.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 31st May 2014 13:14
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Oppression is a vile act, the duas of an oppressed person are readily accepted. Alhumdulillah

It's sad the cast system in India still exists, I'm glad the incidents are publicised worldwide, even through pressures from other countries, they will have to act. Status means a lot to people and they don't like their country being tarnished in such a way. It's been happening for years but at least they can't brush it under the carpet in full view of the world.

Instant messaging and technology is a blessing in such cases, and if that's what it takes, that's what it takes!
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 31st May 2014 15:44
What India needs to do is pass a law enforcing castration as a punishment for those who are rapists and paedophiles.

We will see such acts become virtually non-existent.







I'm dreaming eh ?
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 31st May 2014 15:49
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Salam

Maulana the victimisation of Islam does exist and there is no doubt in that,in fact a whole thread I believe can be done on the victimisation of Islam, but we can't always use it as a get away/blame card.

Sadly such things even happen in muslim lands by muslims. In fact its rife but a lot goes unreported as well.




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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 31st May 2014 15:51
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Legal discussion...



If you have been following the legal discourse in UK about rape then you would know that it is becoming increasingly difficult to prove rape in many cases. What constitutes rape versus consensual intercourse? This is a baffling debate in British legal system. Islam solves the issue by limited sexual activity to Nikah and so does Christianity Judaism (and Hinduism etc). These people in pursuit of Modernism have let go of their (own) religion let alone Islam so they have brought about the punishment of Allah (SWT) upon themselves.

Gang rape in India is one side but there are millions of of cases of exploitation and abuse which are unpunished. Will Indian (BJP) Government addressing this (and other cases) change the issue in India?

Heck no! The solution is adopting Shariah (or even their own religion).


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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 31st May 2014 16:16
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Of course. It's not an excuse nor blaming.

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My reply was for the western world and anyone who might read to realise the lies and deception of the west.

In terms of Muslims standing up to them. There's no Islamic rule in the world. We are quite pathetically weak. If Muslims were to come to the defence of these women, the Muslims would still be jailed, killed or even massacred as "terrorists"
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 1st June 2014 18:41
Everywhere women are very soft target.

www.rapecrisis.org.uk/Statistics2.php

In January 2013, the Ministry of Justice (MoJ), Office for National Statistics (ONS) and Home Office released its first ever joint Official Statistics bulletin on sexual violence, entitledAn Overview of Sexual Offending in England and Wales.
It reported that:
*.Approximately 85,000 women are raped on average in England and Wales every year
*.Over 400,000 women are sexually assaulted each year
*.1 in 5 women (aged 16 - 59) has experienced some form of sexual violence since the age of 16.
Download the full report, a summary and/or the data tables here.
On 8 March 2012 the government launched an updated action plan to tackle all aspects of violence against women and girls. Please visit the Home Office websitefor more information.
If you would like further statistical information please visit:
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 1st June 2014 18:53
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Apologies if I touched a nerve by posting a thread about India.
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 1st June 2014 19:03
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Abuse against females is really common in India. Some cities are worse. Since Alcoholism is a huge problem in the state I live, here there have been even reports of Fathers abusing their daughters. Astaghfirullah.

Only the tip of the iceberg comes out register complaints, even then very few cases are taken seriously by the Police. In some places women rights cells have been set up, some of them work well, some don't. Still a long way to go to attain safety for women in India.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 1st June 2014 19:07
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Did this thread tickle your patriotic bone?
Only Indians allowed to criticize the condition of India?
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