On Salafi Islam by Shaykh Dr Yasir Qadhi

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2014 14:36

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On Salafi Islam:

Definitions
Positive contributions of the Salafī trend
Criticisms of Salafism
Concluding remarks

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2014 15:12

Mostly common knowledge to most "Non-Deobandees" (Ulamah and laymen) for years but I like footnote 16!

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2014 16:06

Detailed article, though nothing new. I just wish I knew all of this earlier -- I've only learned about these kind of Salafi temperaments during my encounters with them, and almost left Islam because of them. I was once wanted to be a Salafi, but thank Allah most of them treated me like dirt, so that I quickly cut out with them and their Manhaj, before I finally knew about their misguidance. But if there is one thing I agree with them : the Shia poblem!

But still, Personally Sh. Yasir Qadhi and A.R. Green are two Salafi scholars I still look forward to for some lectures.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2014 16:12

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Abdur Raheem green a scholar? Come on bro he is just a white dude who speaks. Mashallah he is a half decent orator. With yasir qadhi well he is articulate and has changed a lot. Some of his views worry me and is slowly slowly getting more influenced by north American islam if not already currently drowning in it. If I ever met him I would ask him to go in jamaat and become a deobandi. He seems very confused himself.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2014 16:52

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I haven't read the article yet, will do so in a bit, I'd just like to mention

Credit given where deserved

I must say Yasir Qadhi is one of the best in the business, I don't take on board his fatwas/verdicts and advise people to do the same, but his research and analysis is awesome and leaves one in admiration of him. He's done some very good historical lectures that run into hours and hours of pure facts and analysis, especially his talks on Seerah of the Prophet (saw)

and his other talks on the battle of Badr and on Karbala etc

I used to be very anti Yasir Qadhi previously, one can still get some benefit from him without a doubt just leave your ego aside, the details he goes into his lectures are second to none. Just don't look for verdicts from him that's all, I don't agree with a lot of views though.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2014 17:19

Wonder which area this br was from:

"As Salaam Alaikum Wa Rahmatullah Wa Barakatuhu

Firstly, I would like to thank you for writing this comprehensive piece which in many ways mirrors my own spiritual experience.

To understand my comments and questions, please keep my background in mind:
Until the age of 19 I was a hardcore Deobandi Sufi completing my Alim course. I then became a hardcore Salafi and remained so until I was around 23 years old. At that age, I spent two months in the company of staunch Ahl-Hadith members in India and got completely put off sectarianism. Since then, I do hold to the Salafi Aqeedah and the belief that revival of Ijtihad is necessary for dealing with contemporary issues but I have become averse to the sect/box-like mentality and prefer working with all Muslims in areas of mutual agreement, and staying away from labels.

I am really happy that you raised the issue of Tazkiyya An-Nafs. When I first switched from Sufism to Salafism, I was really confused by the attitude I saw towards Tazkiyya. I never understood why Salafis are so distanced from Tazkiyya when it is clearly part of the Sunnah and the way of the Salaf.

I noticed that whenever I talk about spirituality, getting closer to Allah, increasing Taqwa, etc. Many Salafis ask me if I'm a Sufi? What's that got to do with Sufism! Many of my lectures and classes revolve around connecting with Allah the Sunnah Way, and I believe that is the way of the Salaf.

Another issue I strongly agree with is the unity issue, and this is why I tell my History students:

If Salahudeen Ayoubi was alive today leading the liberation of Palestine, how many Salafis would join, and how many instead would write refutations of him being an Ash'ari Shafi'ee, and miss the bigger picture.

One issue I disagree with is the treatment of women. Coming from an ultra-conservative Deobandi background where women are banned from Masjids and hidden way, the Salafis in my community are far better in their treatment of women. But then again, that's probably just the case in my country/culture.

Overall, I agree with your list of positives and negatives and this is why I teach my students to stick to the understand of the first three generations in terms of Aqeedah and Usool, but without becoming a sect, group, gang or alternative math'hab. Rather, remain active members of your communities and be good to all of Allah's Creation."

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2014 19:51

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So you follow salafi aqeedah but many learned people are of opinion that it's anthropomorphism.

Very glad to know that your a mujtahid. Please enlighten us what qualifications and qualities are required to do ijtihad.

Would you clarify the level of ijtihad of yours?
Please see the following and tell us please.

Levels of Hanafi Fuqha and scholars.

1.Mujtahidin fil Shar'a- These are those who don't follow any other mujtahids and are the source of methods and principles to be followed by others.
These include the likes of Imam Abu Hanifah, Imam Malik ibn Ans, Imam Muhammad bin Idris Shaf'i, Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal [may Allah have mercy on them], etc.

2.Mujtahidin fil madhab- These are those who have the capability of deriving ruling (ijtihad) from the sources of Shari'a and even though they disagree with mujtahideen fil shara on certain matters but in principle (usool) they are in conformity with them.
These include the likes of Imam Abu Yusuf and Imam Muhammad bin Hassan al-Shaybani [may Allah have mercy on them].

3.Mujtahidin fil Masail- These are those who derive ruling (ijtihad) in those issues (masail) regarding which there is no report from mujtahideen of the school.
These are the likes of Imam Kashaf, Imam Tawahi, Shams al-Ai'ma Abul Hassan Karkhi, Shams al-Ai'ma Halawai, Shams al-Ai'ma Sarakhsi, Imam Bazdawi, Imam Qadi Khan [may Allah have mercy on them], etc.

4.Ashab Takhrij- This group does not have authority for ijtihad. They just clarify what are not clear in their school books based on other texts of their imams .They very rarely draw some rulings from the nas, when there is none.
Example of this level would be Imam Bazzazi, Imam Abu Bakr al- Jassas and Abu Abd Allah al-Jurjani [may Allah have mercy on them].

5.Ashab Tarjih- This group distinguishes between different narrations within the madhab and decide on those opinions which are better and more accurate than the others among the opinions and reports made in their school.
Example of these would be Imam Marghinani [author of Hidaya], Imam Abul Hassan Ahmad Qudoori, Muhaqqiq mutlaq Imam bin Humam [may Allah have mercy on them], etc.

6.Ashab Tamyiz- This level of muqallid scholars are able to distinguish between strong and weak opinions within the school as well as Zahir al-Riwayah and Nawadir.
They include the likes of Imam Abul Fadl Abdullah bin Mahmud [author of Mukhtar], Taaj al-Sharia Mahmud Mahbubi al-Bukhari [author of Wiqaya], Imam Muzaffaruddin Ahmad bin Ali [author of Majma al-Bahrain], Imam Abul Barakaat al-Nasafi [author of Kanz], as well as Imam ibn Nujaym al-Hanafi [may Allah have mercy on them all].

7.Simply Muqallids- These are those who simply memorized the majority of the hukms and problems and their solutions in their schools of thought.
Many faqihs after 800 A.H. are in this group such as Allamah Ibn `Abidin [may Allah have mercy on him].

Taken from Majuma al-Fatawa of 'Allamah Abd al-Hayy Lakhnawi and Usul al-Fiqh of Dr. Yusuf Ziya Kavakci.

Some include Imam Abu Yusuf and Imam Muhammad bin Hassan al-Shaybani among level 1 in the above. They just agreed with Imam Abu Hanifah.
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Shafi'i Classification:

Imam al-Nawawi, Imam Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti, Ibn Hajar al-Makki [may Allah have mercy on them] and other Shafi`i scholars classified the faqihs in the following manner:

1.Mujtahid al-Mutlaq:

a. Mustaqil: He is a mujtahid in Shari`a.The leaders of the four madhabs belong to this classisfication and are experts in their fields.

b. Muntasib: He is free in the madhab. He follows the methodology of his School, but is free in al-furu' ( detailed issues of fiqh).
They include the likes of Imam al-Qaffalal-Saghir, Imam al- Haramain, Imam Ghazzali, Imam Abu Ishaq al-Shirazi, Imam Abu Ali al-Marwazi [may Allah have mercy on them].

2.Mujtahid al-Muqayyad:

a. Mujtahid in madhhab: They make ijtihad only in their madhabs.

b. Mujtahid fi 'l-Fatwa: This group of mujtahids are those who give fatwa by preferring one of the opinions expressed in their madhab. Shafites do not come down to accept the other levels of scholars as faqihs.
Excerpts from Usul al-Fiqh of Dr. Yusuf Ziya Kavakci

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2014 21:33

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2014 22:28

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Its not him but the comment by Ismail Kamdar of South Africa on the article. Every time something remotely Anti-Salafi is published he also gives his story that I used to be a "Doebandi"...Not sure what his background is or who he really is but he has to put his 2-pennies worth in every discussion that he is an "Deobandi" and an Ex "Maulana" or a graduate of a Madrasa.

I don't know how many times he will tell this story to the world :P

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When posting the top ten people who influenced his understanding of Islam he had not even the decency to mention any of his Darul Uloom teachers, but - guess what - YouTube comedian br. Baba Ali made the list. So, if all these years in the Darul Uloom they just tried "to brainwash him with their filthy misguidance of Hardcore Deobandi Sufism", then you should at least have the fairness to not utilise those years as some sort of academic credentials. Just my ignorant two cents.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2014 09:21

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woops!!!!! wrong wrong wrong... I should have said "shaykh" that's what I actually meant :D but thanks for the correction!

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2014 09:50

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I have known about him for the past several years and he is a student of Dr Bilal Phillips and also teaches for Phillips online university. He apparently comes from a Deobandi/Tablighi family in Durban, South Africa and after going to DU got influenced by Phillips and others.

Back to the article: I wish Deobandi scholars (especially those who are in the "refuting" Salafism "business") read this article to understand that Salafis are not one monolithic group who reject madhhabs, etc.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2014 10:49

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Yes he has said that in the past.

Agreed that's exactly what I was saying that Deobandees should read it carefully and thoroughly.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 09:34

Assalaamu 'Alaykum

Shaykh Waleed Basyouni's article entitled: Al-Salafiyyah: The Methodology of the Pious Predecessors

muslimmatters.org/2014/06/17/al-salafiyyah-the-methodolog...

PS: Comment section is interesting

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 09:59

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W-Salam,

Nothing interesting or academically compelling in the article just "standard Salafi Dawah" regurgitated, some of the comments are indeed interesting.

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