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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 10:55

to my millions of fans out there don't discuss this I will إن شآء الله pm you the aayat later - others can go ahead with the discussion وعليكم السلام و رحمة الله و بركاته

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 11:00

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 11:05

There is no reason to dislike the brother's comments at all. He has gone to some Ulamah who have given him an opinion which he believes to be correct and wants to propagate it.

Feel free to disagree but no reason to dislike him or his opinion for that.

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 12:41

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I severely disagree with the above, let me elaborate.
If that's the case then none of the scholars from the sub continent should be followed, as they all have their roots(ancestral background which majority do ) in Hinduism, Buddhism, fire worshipping etc

The roots go back to some awesome people in some cases.

Example, Shaykh Zakariyah's lineage goes back to Sayidinah Abu Bakr رضي الله عنه and there are more examples of this.

Another great, (the name slips me but I think is is Maulana Gangohi) the lineage goes back to Sayidinah Umar Farooq رضي الله عنه

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 14:16

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Mufti Taqi Usmani goes back to Amir Ul Momineen Caliph Hadrath Usman رضي الله عنه as far as I know...I forget Maulana Ali Miyan's & Maulana Ilyasji's & Maulana Husain Ahmed Madani's

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 14:18

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Mufti Taqi Usmani goes back to the Commander of the Believers Caliph III Hadrath Usman رضي الله عنه as far as I know...I forget Maulana Ali Miyan's & Maulana Ilyasji's & Maulana Husain Ahmed Madani's

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 14:19

Ali miyan nadvi Ra is from Hazrat Hasan radiAllaahu anhu's progeny, as far as I know

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 14:36

maulana Ilyasji from Hadrath Abu Bakr ra too
www.central-mosque.com/biographies/myusuf.htm

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 15:00

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Akhi you forgot what I put in brackets, only for a handful it doesn't apply

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as they all have their roots(ancestral background which majority do ) in Hinduism, Buddhism, fire worshipping etc

The truth is if you like at the lienage then majority of it will go back to the Hindus and Sikhs and not Sayyids except a few, so on that notion based on advice in ops posts should the people from the sub-continent stop becoming ulema as no one will take them seriously as they don't come from a family of scholars ?

My view is, what a load of garbage, may Allah protect us from this cultist Hindu bootlicking culture that still remains in the Muslims even after converting many many decades/centuries later.

Islam is for all and Ulema are heirs of the Ambiya.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 15:04

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This.

So should we become Maliki's now op or follow an imam who was an Arab and dismiss those who weren't and weren't from a family of scholars like the brother above states ?

Might as well become Salafi and do it ourselves will make life much much easier, more variety to pick and chose etc etc

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 18:06

When Imam Malik was teaching Muwatta, his son would be outside flying kites, and Imam Malik said, (paraphrasing)
" This matter of scholarship is not passed through family inheritence. "

I agree with Jinn here, it is a backward Desi mentality to think that scholarship is passed on through mainly lineage. A lot of the best scholars from the Tabieen were in fact mawlaas, ie freed slaves. They didn't have schoarly family, they didn't even have a well known lineage.

Wallahi, if ulema suggest laymen to act on this, the laymen WILL reject ulema e haqq who don't have a lineage.
There is absolutely no guarantee that children from family of ulema to turn out to be good.

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 18:32

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Not sure if its restricted to Desis..

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 18:36

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I agree, it might not be restricted to the desis. But desis do emphasis heavily on lineage in a lot of matters.

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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 18:52

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Unless it's the scholar's own family in which case "Ghar ki Murgi Daal Baraabar"

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 6th March 2014 23:02

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The houses chicken equals the beans?

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