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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 10th February 2014 16:00

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 10th February 2014 16:31

I prescribed something for sister Taalibah this morning for her bump, so its only fair to prescribe another for the face palm.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 10th February 2014 16:39

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 10th February 2014 16:50

Brother arfatzafar to set up a business and use the money on oneself and family is preferable to taking money for Immamat or deeni activities.

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 11th February 2014 04:32

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May Allaah save us. Someone was talking to me, saying that the Hadeeth of "The best of you are the ones who learn the Qur'aan and teach it (near meaning)" also applies to to Dunyaawi "knowledge" (information).

I think it's important to make a distinction between secular "knowledge" and "knowledge" from western universities. Many people that call for secular "knowledge" today are in fact calling towards the Kufr the resides in the western universities. These universities are filled with pornography, alcohol, drugs, and a whole environment of Kufr. People are losing their Eemaan from these Abodes of Shaytaan. I am also trapped in this situation.

Otherwise, it is obvious that there is nothing inherently evil in Dunyaawi "knowledge." There just has to be the inculcation of Taqwaa and realization of the true purpose of this short life.

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 11th February 2014 09:13

I agree with both the sides. Both are applicable in 2 different contexts.

Scenario#1
As Muadh mentioned we do need intellects and experts in modern sciences for benefit of dunya, especially for not depending on the kuffar for technology and to refute scientific and philosophical attacks on Islam. During a time when Islam was encroached with philosophy Imam Ghazzali decided to learn this subject. Imam Ghazzali learned philosophy in his free time and became an expert in just 2 years, subhanAllah. Then he wrote a book on details of philosophy (not a refutation), which made the world accept him as an expert on the subject. Then comes the attack, mashaAllah, after this Imam Ghazzali wrote another book Tuhafat ul Filaasafa (The Incoherence of the Philosophers), which exposed all the downfalls of philosophy. Since he was an established expert on the subject no one could reject it. This blow to philosophy was so hard that it hasn't troubled Islam since.
P.s. English translation of the book is available, I ve read a bit of it, superb book, it also talks about that its ok learn science to a limited extent and the problems it can cause if taken too seriously. archive.org/details/TahafutAl-FalasifahtheIncoherenceOfPh...

Scenario#2
Lol, I don't think many understood what desi tadka is trying to say. Check out Maulana Yasins link above. Today the mentality of parents is such that, good children are pampered and sent to medical college or engineering college, where as naughty children are scolded and sent to Darul uloom. This speaks volumes of attitude of Muslims towards Deeni ilm. Here is where Maulana Saad's advice is applicable. Its very relevant in this day and age. When a child is born, the parents say 'I will make him/her a doctor/engineer', very few will make the niyyah to make him and alim. Best of our brains are being donated to dunya rather than Deen. This has to change.

Plus today Muslims have more faith in science than Quran and hadith, thats why many of them try to measure Islam with the faulty yardstick of science. Here also Maulana Saad's advice is relevant.

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 11th February 2014 16:29

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These arguments become a non issue once the niyyah (intentions) are inspected because a person will even be punished for learning Deeni knowledge (or doing Deeni actions) if his niyyah is corrupt. The famous hadith of the Alim/Qari, Shaheed, and generous person comes to mind...

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 11th February 2014 17:05

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Precisely my point. The distinction is largely irrelevant hence never been made by earlier Muslims.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 11th February 2014 23:12

Just received this in my email, and seems relevant. Wallahu A'alam.

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Question:

Living in a modern environment where one goes to college and must interact with other genders, what are some guidelines for these interactions? Specifically, is it allowed for one to directly look at the face (or eyes) of a non-mahram woman while talking to that person? Especially this problem can occur if one has a college professor who is a female and it is seen as bad if one does not make eye contact while talking. If that is not allowed, does one have to look down while a non-mahram is talking to that person?

Also, is it allowed for one to email or text (etc) their female professor if it relates only to work? Please provide some guidance.

Answer:

In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

As-salāmu 'alaykum wa-rahmatullāhi wa-barakātuh.

It is common knowledge how difficult it is for one to protect his Īmān in the college and university environment. With the co-ed system, it is very difficult for one to abide by the laws of Shari'ah and there is great fear of one falling into fitnah. A Muslim's Īmān demands that he should not put himself in a situation where committing sins is highly probable, just as the intellect demands that a person should put himself in a situation where physical harm is highly probable.

Shari'ah knows our vulnerability while being in an environment saturated with such fitnah. Let alone interacting with the opposite gender, the mere presence of a Muslim in such an environment may be detrimental to his Īmān. That is why Shari'ah has taken a harsh stance with regards to interacting and dealing with the opposite gender. It aims to tackle the problem from the root.

Although acquiring education is important for Muslims, it should not be done at the expense of the teachings of Islam. Whilst one's intentions of acquiring knowledge may be noble, it should always be remembered that the commandments of Shari'ah hold precedence over everything else. One may be studying with the intention of serving the Muslim community, hence gaining huge rewards. However, if in doing so, if he is compromising the dictates of Shari'ah, then there is no good in studying in such a manner.

Due to the evident fact that no co-ed institutions are free from open violation of Shari'ah and they are breeding grounds of fitnah, there is high chance that one would fall into some kind of fitnah or violation of Shari'ah. Therefore, it would be advisable for one to study in a boys only college/university. If such an option is not available, then you should try to undertake your studies through correspondence.

If one has no alternative but to study in a coeducation institute, he is certain that he has the firmness and resolve to stay away from harām in such a place, he fully understands the teachings of Islam regarding interacting with the opposite gender and is also aware of the dangers of studying at such a place, then only will it be permissible for him to study at such a place. He should, however, at all times be firm and particular about the teachings of Islam and he should be constantly aware and vigilant lest Shaytaān tricks and misleads him.

Allah, the Almighty, commands the Believers to lower their gaze. He says:

قُلْ لِلْمُؤْمِنِينَ يَغُضُّوا مِنْ أَبْصَارِهِمْ وَيَحْفَظُوا فُرُوجَهُمْ ذَلِكَ أَزْكَى لَهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ خَبِيرٌ بِمَا يَصْنَعُونَ (30)

"Tell the believing men to lower their gaze, and protect their private parts. That is purer for them. Verily, Allāh is All-Aware of what they do." (Quran 24:30)

"And do not go close to adultery; surely it is an indecency and an evil way." (Quran 17:32).

Usāmah ibn Zaid Radiyallāhu 'Anhu narrates that the Rasulullāh Sallallāhu 'Alayhi Wa Sallam said, "I have not left behind any trial more harmful to men than women."[1]

Jarīr Ibn Abdillāh Radiyallāhu 'Anhu said: I asked Rasulullāh Sallallāhu 'Alayhi Wa Sallam about unintentional glance (at non-related women). Rasulullāh Sallallāhu 'Alayhi Wa Sallam commanded me to turn away my eyes.[2]

Buraidah Radiyallāhu 'Anhu says that Rasulullāh Sallallāhu 'Alayhi Wa Sallam said to Alī Radiyallāhu 'Anhu: 'O Alī! Do not cast a successive glance after the first (unintentional) glance. Because for you is (forgiven the sin of) the first glance and not the second.'[3]

Abu Umamah Radiyallāhu 'Anhu narrates that Rasulullāh Sallallāhu 'Alayhi Wa Sallam said: 'No Muslim (unintentionally) sees the beauty of a woman the first time then lowers his gaze except that Allāh will bless him with such worship that he will find its sweetness.'[4]

Abū Hurairah Radiyallāhu 'Anhu narrates that the Rasulullāh Sallallāhu 'Alayhi Wa Sallam said, "Allāh has written for each limb its share of adultery (zinā). The eye commits adultery and its adultery is by looking (at harām). The tongue commits adultery and its adultery is by speaking (harām). The hands commit adultery and its adultery is by touching (what is harām). The foot commits adultery and its adultery if by walking (towards harām). The ear commits adultery and its adultery is by listening (to harām). The private part either accepts it or rejects it."[5] (Mushkil-ul-Āthār, hadith: 2283)

The abovementioned verses and Ahādīth suggest that lowering the gaze helps one to protect his/her chastity and that not controlling ones gaze becomes the means of one falling into adultery and fornication. This is also aggravated by the way women dress nowadays and the unrestrained, preying eyes of men that fall on them.

In light of this, the fuqahaa state that it is not permissible to look at any part of a ghair mahram female, whether she is a Muslim or a disbeliever.[6]

One is also not allowed to speak to females except in dire necessity. Therefore, should confine his interaction with female professors to necessity only. You should keep your gaze away from her. If there is a need for conversation, keep the conversation formal, restrained, restricted to the topic and limited to the extent of need.

Similarly, it is forbidden for a man and a woman to interact with each other in an informal way, by talking freely and casually, joking around, being flirtatious in the conversation etc. In Surah al-Ahzab (v: 32), Allah Most High commands the wives of the Messenger of Allah (Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) in particular, and all Muslim women in general, to abstain from conversing with non-Mahram men in a soft and sweet tone. As such, when the need arises to talk, both the content and manner of conversation must be appropriate and free of anything enticing. The dialogue must be in a modest and restrained manner, and limited to the extent of need.

And Allah Ta'āla Knows Best

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Mufti Ebrahim Desai.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 12th February 2014 13:57

Dunyawi uloom arent prohibited in Islam. In an islamic state- medical professionals, engineers, experts in different funoon etc will be needed for over all development of the state and its people.

I dont have very special views on this topic. What I share here is the summing up of my experience with this world.

I dont think a degree in Islamic studies from any duniyawi university is beneficial for someone. Where does someone gets the education from? Who are the teachers? It counts a lot.

I'd been in hotel industry, those days when I was working as a front office asstt, in a hotel located on a hill station. People visit there to spend hot summer days.

Oneday a famous alim (everybody knows him) of India came in our hotel to stay with his family. I as well as other Muslim employees were glad to see him. Those days I was not punctual in performing salah but my room partner br Nayyar Alam was very strict Muslim, he always made me pray salah and it was his good habit of inviting all other Muslim to pray salah.

My duty was in second shift(2 p.m. To 10 p.m). Staff rooms were located down the hill, when I went up to reception I saw that young girls wearing jean-shirt and boys (family members of alim sahab and his friend) were in vast space for car parking area in front of the main gate of the hotel. A costly music player was placed on their car, music was on and they were dancing abundantly.

Literally, we were ashamed of their shameless act of dancing because non Muslim guest and staff knew that it was the family of that famous alim.

When bro Nayyr met me I discussed this matter with him. He said to me,''Yesterday I said his (alim's) son to pray the salah with me, he replied- we've come here to enjoy our summer vacations''

who's responsible for all this.....?

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 12th February 2014 14:14

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You and Desi Tadka are answering your own questions and very adequately.The issue isn't Islamic or Secular education but intention and Tarbiyah. A few years ago a well known famous Deobandi Alim (Maulana Mogra) was employed by Channel 4 in UK to do programs on Shariah.

Someone asked if he would shake hands with the Queen and he said, "I will feel honoured..."

A young English lawyer was in the Audience and he said, "I am a new Muslim and don't know much about Islam but you are a DISGRACE TO ISLAM! Why would you comprise Sunnah on the Queen?"

Same Maulana with Sunnah and an Amamah on his head Bay't to the biggest Sufi Shaykh of UK said on Twitter

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That's why there is no distinction of this Islamic or Secular education at all! What is needed for safeguarding Islam and Muslims is what is needed

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 12th February 2014 15:13

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Yes ofcourse Niyyah makes a HUGE difference. I agree with you in that matter

But I don't agree with the statement that there is NO difference between secular and deeni education.
Learning basic Fiqh is Fardh ayn and learning advanced Ilm is Fardh kifaya.
Yes of course right niyyah should be there, thats applicable to all ibadah, even mubah matters can be converted to ibadah by correct niyyah, But Learning Deeni Ilm is an ibadah in itself. So saying there is 'no distinction' between Deeni ilm and Secular ilm is not right.

Learning Tafseer of Surah Al Baqara and learning Calculus are NOT at the same level and there is indeed a clear distinction between the two.

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 12th February 2014 15:15

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Obligatory Islamic knowledge is mandatory for everyone. Afterwards status of any knowledge changes subject to changes and circumstances that's what I meant so becoming a Surgeon in certain situations would also be act of worship.

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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 12th February 2014 15:21

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But bhai... Learning Sahih al Bukhari and learning hernioplasty are not at the same level...
How can we even imagine that there is no distinction. Ulema are the heirs of the Ambiya, not PhD holders and university professors.
I hope you get my point bhai...

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 12th February 2014 15:31

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Classical Fuqaha have written that in certain areas where there are no physicians (for example) it becomes Fard-Kifayyah to become a Physician so in this case studying medicine would be an act of Ibaadah.

In our time Riddah (apostasy) is wide-spread so to study certain subjects with the sole intention of safeguarding Eemaan is praiseworthy and full of Ajar. Here is another scenario for you:

Sunniforum "was" the largest Deobandi forum on the Internet and it is now down
Some people make it effort to collect and provide steer to a large number of brothers and sisters around the world to safeguard their Eemaan:
1. If they don't do this a large number of people will frequent (online) knowledge which will be detrimental to people's Eemaan

What is the status of 2 in your opinion?

Not all the Sahabah (RA) were Fuqaha and Muhaditheen and neither were theyr required to be.

I see your point in the sense that studying Hadeeth is ofcourse far superior in GENERAL but in SPECIFICS it is Kifaayah.

There is no requierement for every Muslim to know the Tafseer of Surah Baqarah but it is a requirement for every Muslim to do his/her utmost to protect Islam and believers.

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