How did female Scholars learn & teach?

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 27th January 2014 19:24

How did female scholars study and teach? With or without a screen; that is the question?

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Dr. Ali Muhammad As-Sallabi, in his "Ad-Dawla az Zankiyya," a historical account of the Zangi era wrote about women's education in the rule of Nur ud-Deen Zangi.

Noor ul-Deen ruled in Syria from 541 AH to 569 AH (1146 - 1174 CE). He was a just and righteous leader and was well-loved by those under him. He was succeeded by Salahuddin Ayyubi, who followed in his footsteps.

The following is a translation of the chapter on women's education:�

The devotion of Muslim women to Islamic studies reached high levels. Their purpose was to gain knowledge of the correct teachings of the religion and thereby bring them into practice. The subject that received the most regard was the study of hadith, in which many women attained high qualification. They competed with great Hadith scholars and memorizers of hadith therein and became profound examples of trustworthiness and uprightness.

Many biographical accounts allude to the substantial intellectual activities of women in this era. Sources have mentioned names of numerous female Qaris, hadith scholars, fiqh scholars, writers, grammarians, as well as scholars of other fundamental sciences. Many of these women would travel from region to region with their�maharim�to seek knowledge from great scholars and Muhaddithin and they received ijazas (certificates) from them. A testimony to the undertakings of women in this field is the fact that the biographers of Ibn Asakir (d. 571 AH / 1176) agree that more than eighty of his teachers were women. This demonstrates the large numbers of women who were busy in this field, such that a single scholar from the scholars of that era studied from more than eighty women. This is in addition to the large number of women whose biographies he has included in his book. (Ibn Asakir collected biographical accounts of 196 women scholars in his tareekh).

It becomes apparent from what Ibn Asakir alludes to in hisTarikh al-Kabir�that the home was the first school for these women. The women who received much acclaim for their knowledge were the ones who grew up in the houses of scholars and studied from their fathers or other knowledgeable relatives. These women would also benefit from the various classes that would take place in their homes, as they would listen on to what was being discussed. This is what is listed as "Teaching in the homes of the scholars" in historical accounts. Thus, when Ibn Asakir wrote about his wife, Aisha bint Ali (d. 564 AH / 1168), he mentioned that she studied hadith from Fatima bint Ali Al-Asfraini, known as the Young Scholar, who in turn had studied with her father Abul Farj.

Similarly, the doors of the masjid would be open for women who wanted to study. These women would frequent the study circles that took place in the masjid. These study circles had a specific space appropriated for them, a space which was totally separated from that of the men which eliminated the possibility of mingling of the genders.

Women did not just take part in studying, but rather they played a role in spreading and teaching knowledge as well. Although they did not have teaching positions in specialized schools in the manner we see now, they did have other avenues of teaching. Ibn Asakir indicates this as he writes about his wife's teacher Fatima bint Ali Al-Asfraini that she used to give sermons to women in the masjid.�

One of the most notable women in the field of teaching was the alima�Fatima al-Faqiha. She taught in Halab and authored many works of fiqh and hadith. Further, Nur-ud Din, the ruler of the era, would consult with her in his affairs and ask her for fatawa in fiqhi issues. He supported her and helped her in her educational pursuits.

An event that transpired between Fatima al-Faqiha and Nur-ud Din highlights the commitment of the Muslim women to the Islamic requirement of hijab and how the female scholars would only communicate with men through a woman assigned to act as a middle-person. The event, as Al-Qurashi writes, is that 'Ala ad-Deen al-Kasani, the husband of the scholar Fatima al-Faqiha, decided to move from Halab to his own country at the request of his wife. Nur ud Deen summoned Imam Ala ad-Deen and requested him to stay in Halab. Imam Ala ud-Deen explained to him the reason for his move and told him that he could not oppose his wife's wish who was also the daughter of his shaikh. Nur ud-Deen then sent a servant to Fatima to speak to her on his behalf. When the servant arrived at her house, she did not allow him to enter. Then she sent someone to her husband (who was with the king at that time) with the message, "With your experience and knowledge of fiqh, don't you know that it's not permissible for this servant to see me? What's the difference between him and other men?" The servant returned and recounted what had taken place to her husband in the presence of the ruler. They then sent a woman to her with the king's request. Fatima then accepted the request and stayed in Halab until she passed away. Her husband al-Kasani passed away after her in 587 AH / 1191 and was buried next to her in Halab.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 27th January 2014 20:34

And down goes one of the feminist arguments against Islam...and the modernist argument as well.

May Allah preserve the Shaikh and make his life long.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 27th January 2014 20:49

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 00:30

Check out homepage of The Majlis website. Article entitled

THE DECEPTION OF THE MORON ‘MUFTIS’ OF THE MUFTISAYS INTERNET FORUM

THE PROHIBITION OF WOMEN ATTENDING THE MUSJID – A LAW SETTLED AND SEALED FOURTEEN CENTURIES AGO

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 01:15

Your post isn't going to last too long. As shown in many threads, most recently the women are different thread, any contrary opinions to muftisays that threaten to academically and decisively deconstruct their modernist feminist views are swiftly censored. Brothers Arslan, Samah, & others had offered cogent arguments for another point of view but their posts disappeared pretty quickly under some weird pretext, whilst horrendous errors of self-employed mujtahids who boot-lick and toe the line are tolerated. Truth is way too bitter here. Count the seconds before this thread goes the same way.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 07:22

The maulana refers below to 5 books on the prohibition of women going to masjid for prayers or talks, but I can only find 2 on that website. Where can I get hold of the other 3:

The fact that the copro-salafi munaafiq of this haraam forum labels the Shariah’ prohibition of females attending the Musjid a “cultural Deobandi opinion”, testifies for the dishonesty of the claim of these morons being Hanafis/Deobandis. The moron, by describing the Shariah’s Ruling as “cultural Deobandi opinion”, conspicuously advertises his compound ignorance – jahaalat piled on jahaalat. His contention of the Ruling being a “cultural Deobandi opinion” is the effect of either gross jahaalat (ignorance) or gross dishonesty and nifaaq.

If the copro-salafi munafiq is a total jaahil, then his ignorance of the topic is understandable although he has to be severely rebuked for delving in a subject about which he has displayed glaring stupidity. If his contention is the effect of nifaaq, then too it is understandable. Since he has a subtle, dishonest agenda, his stupid averment about the “cultural opinion” is well understood.

The Ulama of Deoband have arrived only recently on the stage of Shar’i Uloom whilst the Fatwa of Prohibition has been in the Ummah for the past fourteen centuries. We have, Alhamdulillah, published five booklets on the question of women and Musaajid. Any honest person with a little brains, who reads these publication will understand that the Prohibition has been issued by the Sahaabah, the Fuqaha of the Taabieen era, the Fuqaha of the Tab-e-Taabieen age, and by the Fuqaha of every generation centuries prior to the era of Deoband. Was the Prohibition of the past fourteen centuries a “Deobandi cultural opinion”? In which Deobandi Madrasah did Hadhrat Umar (radhiyallahu anhyu), the vast majority of the Sahaabah, the Aimmah-e-Mujtahideen and the thousands of Fuqaha down the long corridor of Islam’s history acquire their Knowledge of the Deen? Of which Deobandi Madrasah was Hadhrat Aishah (radhiyallahu anha) the Mufti when she issued her Fatwa of Prohibition?

All the argument which have been presented in substantiation of the Prohibition are the Dalaa-il of the Fuqaha of the Khairul Quroon era, and of those Fuqaha who flourished centuries before the Ulama of Deoband. The names of these Fuqaha have been mentioned in our publications which are available from us. The books may also be acquired from our website.

The attribution of the Prohibition to “Deobandi Culture” is an adequate daleel for confirming the “brain filth” of these copro-salafi munaafiqs who operate the muftisays haraam forum. The spiritual blindness and intellectual fossilization of these fellows whose brains are dank with copro-substances are indeed mind-boggling. They are so darn stupid that they fail to understand that “Deoband Culture” – whatever this creature may mean – did not exist during the golden Khairul Quroon era from whence the Prohibition of females attending the Musjid originates. While there was no Deoband during the ages of the Sahaabah and the Aimmah-e-Mujtahideen, we can safely and proudly affirm that during the era of our recent Deobandi Akaabireen, Deoband in retrospect is an extension of the illustrious Chain of Ulama who had flourished during Khairul Quroon. By “recent” Akaabir we refer to the noble likes of Hadhrat Maulana Qaasim Nanotwi, Hadhrat Maulana Rashid Ahmad Gangohi, Hadhrat Khalil Ahmed Saharanpuri, Hadhrat Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (rahmatullah alayhim) and their contemporary glittering galaxy of Stars which had emblazoned the firmament of Islamic Uloom, Taqwa and Wara’. The reference is not to present-day Deoband.

Since none of these illustrious Fuqaha of many centuries ago had the slightest relationship with the non-existent Darul Uloom of Deoband, the stupid contention of the Prohibition being the “cultural opinion of Deoband” disgorged by copro-salafi munaafiq morons is laughable. It further confirms the jahaalat of the copro-characters. What they had disgorged is pure bunkum and rubbish.

In our five publications on this subject, every argument of the people of ghabaawah (intellectual density) has been adequately responded and refuted. Hitherto, not a single daleel on which the Prohibition is based has been rationally answered on the basis of Shar’i dalai-il. The only responses forthcoming is rubbish such as the stupidity disgorged by the haraam mufti says forum. The ghabi having totally failed to respond rationally to the dalai-il of the Fuqaha, scrounged an excrescential narration about Hadhrat Aatiqah (radhiyallahu anha) with which the morons of the haraam forum abortively seek to bolster their flotsam of “deobandi cultural position”.

The Fuqaha and Aimmah Mujtahideen many centuries before the appearance of Deobandi Ulama, had explained the application of every Hadith which permitted female attendance at the Musjid. They presented the Shar’i grounds for the Prohibition. But the copro-salafi munaafiqs are clumsily spinning the Hadith of Hadhrat Aatiqah (radhiyallahu anha) to conform to their own copro-narratives. There is nothing in the said narration to upset the Ruling of Prohibition issued fourteen centuries ago by the Sahaabah, led by Hadhrat Umar (radhiyallahu anhu), and upheld by the Fuqaha of the Khairul Quroon epoch and of all the Fuqaha and Ulama of all generations right down to the present age. Only morons, modernists, feminists and crypto satanists of this lewd age argue stupidly against the Prohibition.

The narration pertaining to Hadhrat Aatiqah (radhiyallahu anha) is superfluous in entirety in the attempt to deny the Prohibition. She, herself, had abandoned going to Musjid. She had commented that women would attend the Musjid when “people were still human beings”. Furthermore, it is moronic to present this excrescential narration to deny the Fatwa of all Four Math-habs – the Fatwa of Prohibition emanating from the era of the Sahaabah.

The morons would have sounded more credible if they had rather adhered to the authentic Ahaadith in which Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) himself had granted permission to women to attend the Musjid. However, falling from the sublime to the ridiculous, the haraam forum’s copro-‘muftis’ – frauds and deceits – clutch at the straw for sustaining their flotsam contention. A dumb aunt – the product of a secular kuffaar brothel-university – who had tried her luck at the same game of deception in the abortive attempt to scuttle the fourteen century Prohibition, appears to have better brains than the copro-salafis of the muftisays forum, for she had at least deceptively presented the Ahaadith of Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) as the basis of her apodalic, stupid arguments. But the copro-salafis of the haraam forum could find nothing better than the episode of Hadhrat Aatiqah (radhiyallahu anha) which is in entirety a non-issue in so far as the Prohibition is concerned. In fact, her narration fully supports the Prohibition which she had upheld by means of her own abstention from Musjid attendance.

Any seeker of the Truth who is genuinely interested in this topic should read all five booklets which we have published in elucidation and confirmation of the Shariah’s Ruling of Prohibition, viz., the Shariah prohibits women from attending the Musaajid for Salaat or for any purpose whatsoever.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 07:51

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Who is the author of this article ?

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 09:04

I'd like to repeat my words

Bro, the author is a well respected scholar, but when he is lied to, what do people expect to get as an answer?

Yet these hypocritical trolls continue to read this forum and participate.

I can't wait to see guest posts not being allowed. Wish they have to sign up.

Then we can put names to these "morons, fitnah stirrers, good for nothing hypocritical fakes"

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 09:39

It makes me laugh actually.

I was thinking of writing a counter question to the majlis with a really long detailed description and response. But now I think one would suffice

IFK

I should ask the majlis if Abdullah ibn Ubbay wrote a question with the accusations of Aisha رضى الله عنها they would not hesitate in replying with the harshest of words. Similarly, the questioner here is doing the same thing. Lying, creating fitnah.

The majlis is partaking in IFK, NAMEEMAH, BOHTAAN, GHEEBAH, SLANDER all because of the questioner. Never mind, life carries on and the questioner has to answer to his maker and pay the price.

Let him enjoy his life as ibn Ubayy

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 09:48

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Informative OP

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 09:51

Mr. Abdi M

The banner on your quoted site should read "Voice of South Africans". That language is acceptable in their culture.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 10:07

The questioner is wrong to have misinformed The Majlis but regarding Mu'adh's assertion (behaving as though he is a Mufti) he deserved a sharp rebuke. Inshaallah this will prevent him in future from making unsubstantiated statements.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 11:12

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That sounds so funny coming from you.

Muadh Never said or has imposed anything as if he was a Mufti and never claimed it either. He asked for evidence and fatwas for and against were provided.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 11:30

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Read the first paragraph in italics in The Majlis article. That's Mu'adh's post The Majlis are responding to. Jazakallah

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 11:39

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Duh, but the liar is implicating that the members are Mufti's. The liar should have said that they aren't even scholars. That would've been one less lie in the question.

You're telling me to read the first paragraph in italics when the stupid title is in CAPITAL letters started with a lie.

I tell you what, why don't you write back and say that even you, a secular educated graduate frona kuffaar university has also clearly stated that it is "MISINFORMED" (that's if the uni is kuffaar, otherwise you can omit that bit)

Can you imagine all the people who live off these fatwas based on lies?

They will end up being one messed up sect, all because of liars who instigate fitnah like the MUNAFIQEEN

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