The first lesson of Tasawwuf, as I said before and I don't think anyone of your bothered to read, is LATAIF. Does anyone out of you practice LATAIF? If your teacher knew Tasawwuf, he must have taught you at least its first lesson?[/quote]
1)I asked a brother and he said the first lesson is ‘Inna mal Aamaalu bin niyyat/Actions are judged by intentions’, Hadith found in virtually all ahadith books. So isn’t niyyah the first lesson ?
2) Please provide daleel this is the first lesson? Who says it and where ?
3)Yes brother’s are taught about Lataif, despite various tariqas differing in the positon of it, however it’s a means to an end and not the maqsad about activating lataif and that your lataif should dance and experience other haals, this is all a fallacy and if you go in front of someone who can do this it don’t necessarily mean they are legit. Is this your means of authenticating authenticity ?
Let me tell you about a few people into their haals, kaifiyats, kashfs etc Noor zaman shazli was also good with lataif, check out the thread here on MS, guy is a first class deviant who apprently a sahabi jinn comes to and he tells him Ahadith. Haqqani's believe their guys are going to be Imam Mehdi's right hand men, and some have even been appointed, all on the basis of dreams and kashf. There is another one who supposedly get's orders from Rasoolalah
for the Ummah, sadly it's only him and in his silsila if you haven't achieved ziyaarah your a deviant and a poor mureed who is not sincere. You know what is common with all these deviants ? They all make HUGE lofty claims and I've personally witnessed it and claim everyone don't know what their on about and what they got no one has got, in truth they are misguided by Iblees and have nothing.
The foundation of Tasawwuf is Zikr-Allah, and it is Farz-e-Ain. You just cannot skip it. It's enjoined at least twice a day by the Quran, and the Holy Quran specifically talks about Zikr-e-Ism-e-Zaat, and Zikr with breathing, and abundance of Zikr.[/quote]
1) Zikr is a means to purify the qalb because of the rust and darkness gained on it through sins.
2) Fardhe Ain ? Daleel for that please ?
3) Please provide daleel where the Quran talks about zikr e ism e zaat, and zikr with breathing ?
Has anyone out of you Awaisiah deniers ever bothered to take the first lesson of Zikr, as it has been practiced by Aulia for 1400 years?[/quote]
Daleel ? What that please do tell us with daleel please and do provide the full text.
Can anyone out of you enlighten me about what the Aulia used to do that made the Aulia?
They were strict followers of Quran and Sunnah and didn’t believe in this hocus pocus. However please do tell us what made them Auliya Allah ? With the daleel of course.
[quote]You are held back from Tasawwuf by the knowledge that you think you've gained. But you need Tazkiya to understand and interpret the Quran and the Hadith and differentiate between the right and the wrong. And Tazkiya, you know nothing about. When someone tries to tell you about this pristine and perfectly organized type of knowledge, you call him proud and conceited, and dreamy and what not.
Why don’t you try telling us here then, with daleel please.
So you are the only ones who have understood tasawwuf right now ? Is that what you are tying to say, my brother let me ask you something right now. We all know the famous ahadith about ulema being the heirs of the Prophets, can you please tell me how many ulema are involved in your silsilah ?
The most Ulema have belonged to in this day and age and that’s the Chishti silsila, do you know how many ulema were bayah to Shah Hakim Akhtar ra from across the globe ? and then the naqshbandis and if you go a few hundred years back it was the shadhilis whom great muhaddith belonged to such Imam Hajar Asqalani and Imam Jalaudeen Sayyuti ra etc.
Please name big scholars from you silsilah that are known world wide in this day and age and are working to spread deen ?
[quote]True Islamic Tasawwuf is not the name of some whims and fantasies, stories of Kashf and old Aulia, reading of books, and the other things that you think of as Tasawwuf. Tasawwuf is a PRACTICE. A practice of Zikr-Allah. And it is not something that should be hidden.
A practice that great Ulema flock to, uphold and defend it and spread it, who’s the great Ulema of your silsilah, please do name?
Any authentic silsilah will have a strong following of Ulema, they are inheritors of knowledge and no one understands the deen better than them, if you see an influx of ulema somewhere then know that they are more than likely to be on the haqq otherwise so many reputable authentic ulema would never be there.
[quote]I ask you again, has anyone out of you taken the first lesson of Tasawwuf? If yes, what is it?