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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2013 13:12

www.theguardian.com/science/2013/nov/27/uk-first-digital-...

UK's first digital autopsy centre opens in Sheffield3D software and
scanner to take the place of scalpel at �3m postmortem facility, first
of 18 planned for England and Wales

The UK's first dedicated digital autopsy centre opens in Sheffield on
Wednesday, heralding a potential revolution in the way postmortems are
conducted.

�The digital autopsy centre in Sheffield. Photograph: Christopher Thomond
Three-dimensional visualisation software and a scanner will take the
place of a scalpel at the �3m facility, attached to the city's public
mortuary, the first of a planned network of 18 in England and Wales.

The non-invasive process is intended to be less harrowing for
relatives who have lost a loved one and speedier than a traditional
postmortem, allowing the body to be released for burial or cremation
sooner.

Tony Simpson, a UK director of iGene, which created the visualisation
software, said: "They use virtually the same technique in autopsies
now as they used 200 years ago and things have moved on� ... When
[Leonardo] Da Vinci risked his life performing dissections ... he
couldn't imagine what his work would bring."

�Using a virtual scalpel the pathologist can rotate the image and peel
away layers of the body, right down to the skeleton. Photograph:
Christopher Thomond
Within three-and-a-half minutes of the corpse being placed on the CT
scanner, a 3D representation of the body, made up of approximately
3,400 slices of 0.5mm each, is available to the pathologist on a
computer screen and saved to a secure file.

Using a virtual scalpel the pathologist can rotate the image and peel
away layers of the body, right down to the skeleton as well as look
inside the organs.

Professor Peter Vanezis, a Home Office consultant forensic pathologist
and chief medical officer for iGene, said: "Where there has to be an
autopsy, it gets to places where pathologists can't get to easily, or
if they do, they have to mutilate the body quite badly."

On a second screen the pathologist can mark any areas of interest in
red for subsequent viewers of the case file. On a third screen, where
necessary, the scene of death or crime can also be reconstructed
digitally in 3D, using panoramic photos taken at the scene.

Vanezis admitted some of his fellow pathologists are sceptical, and
said digital autopsy would not be suitable in about 25% of cases,
including where the cause of death could be poisoning and blood
samples are required. The coroner will decide in each case whether it
is appropriate and if the family of the deceased want to go ahead they
will have to pay �500 except where the coroner orders a digital
autopsy to be carried out because a crime is suspected, in which case
there will be no cost to the family.

The iGene technology has been under development in Malaysia for 12
years, where the company's first and - until now - only digital
autopsy centre opened in 2010 and has been used in more than 3,500
autopsies. In the past, some Muslims and Jews in the UK who object to
invasive traditional postmortems have been given the option of paying
for an autopsy to be carried out by a radiologist at a hospital using
an MRI scan.

The chief coroner, Peter Thornton QC, who will officially open the
Sheffield digital autopsy centre, welcomed the technology as "an
important aid to ascertaining the cause of death".

The Sheffield city council leader, Julie Dore, said: "There are
countless families who will be able to benefit from our city having
this new facility."

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2013 13:16

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2013 13:36

sorry. Jzk Br AbuM for fixing it.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2013 13:52

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ماشاء الله I've heard from family members that this facility is already available to them in Manchester.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2013 16:37

^ how much does it cost them there?

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2013 17:05

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It can range from �1500 to �3000, prices vary according to different hospitals and counties, however now that this service is recognized some hospitals are waiving the payments....this is only happening in places where the muslim community is united and working alongside the councils with support from their m.p's.

Where the muslim community is not united the usual....wanting the kursi (chair) you know what I mean here...the service is not being appropriately recognized or offered.

Amazingly the Jewish community have already had this service in place for free, for the past 10-15yrs.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2013 17:25

Jzk..... are you sure youre not getting mixed up with the MRI scanners which have been around for some time now? . ...the local heredi jews here in hackney are VERY organised. they also have their own red/blue light ambulances (hatzola) and police cars.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2013 17:30

The discussion that took place was in regards to post mortems, but now you mention it, you could be right it could possibly the Mri scan,, since the digital autopsy is still in the introduction stage.

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2013 10:10

Agreed I think sister Taalibah means MRI as I know Manchester offers the MRI alternative to a traditional postmortem.
Do we know what the Jews of Hackney are using? I am interested in this as my background is medical imaging and I have suggested that this service should be offered in my place of work but currently I have no statistics to prove that this service will be viable and prove lucrative to the organisation.
Please note I am not interested in the money but want this service offered as a choice to the Muslims in the area that I work.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2013 22:26

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Brother it would be an idea to contact the muslim chaplain of the hospital you work in, or any muslim funeral service in your located area....you would be able to get much information you require from them...our hospital chaplain is also a respected Imam in our local area....so if any specific statistics were required he would probably be our first port of call.

MashaAllah, think it's a great service that should be available and offered to all Muslims.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 1st December 2013 08:11

This is available to many but in certain cases the traditional postmortems may still be needed for criminal investigations etc, depending upon the coroner.

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