How do we know that we are possessed or affected by Jinns / Sihr ?

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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 16:23

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Does your Mufti Saheb also believe that using this method is permissible but taking blood tests using the same criteria is wrong?

Does your Mufti Saheb also require daleel for Manzil but if someone asks for a daleel for this method declines it by saying that it’s his right to decline?

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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 16:23

Watch "Black Magic And It's Cure ┇ Important Islamic Reminder ┇ Shaykh Hasan Ali" on YouTube -

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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 16:36

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Let me try to clarify things.

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Asslamo Allaikum Brother,

Let me try to understand your position.

You can ask for evidence and I am to respond but if I ask for evidence, you have to right to decline? Ok.

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It seems u have problems witb differentiating realiry with preconceived notions in your mind or you simply absorb information through some filter which mixes stuff up. For example in the other thread it was simply stated that 'most' not 'all' cases are caused by shaytaan/sehr but you wrote a whole post refuting the preconceived notion that it is claimed that 'all' cases.

Again here, you weren't asked for evidence of manzil being sunnah. The only question I asked was manzil is sunnah?

It seems you have a battlefield where you want to drag evwryone and then win a war in your terms.

Again the question you posed above is dishonesty because I never required you to respond or said you don't have the right to decline.

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I gave you evidence but you went off a tangent and posted a whole bunch of irrelevancies and then declined, ok.

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Again same issue.

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Measuring shirt is permissible because you say it's a tool for diagnosis but when a Doctor asks for a blood text and says that it's a tool for diagnosis (never claims for it to be Sunnah) you respond with:

^^^^ If people want to leave the clear path of Qur'aan and Sunnah and go to doctors for bloodtests, urine tests and stool tests that's their

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You asked me evidence from Quran and sunnah which was never claimed in the first place. You requirement of evidence is wrong. Its academic dishonesty like salafis. I never claimed this tool or way of diagnosis is from sunnah.

But since you don't have an answer u will continue with ur shenangilians and act as if the other person is a fool.

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My brother in Islam, since you don't make any sense I would like to leave you in peace and request your duas because there is no reason for me to get personal with you and start asking you ridiculous and irrelevant questions.

Jazakallahu Khayran

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Yes its better for u to leave becoz u don't understand anything.

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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 16:38

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Now keep on crying and satisfying your nafs by beating ur wrong preceptions to death in every post. Yes you will feel good. Mabrook

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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 16:42

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It seems u have problems witb differentiating realiry with preconceived notions in your mind or you simply absorb information through some filter which mixes stuff up. For example in the other thread it was simply stated that 'most' not 'all' cases are caused by shaytaan/sehr but you wrote a whole post refuting the preconceived notion that it is claimed that 'all' cases.

But isn't that the same as me saying that it MAY be..... and you went on and on?

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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 16:43

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Do you know any deobandi mufti (other than mufti a s desai :-P ) who says its haram or makrooh even, leave alone shirk

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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 16:49

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Maybe I'm having difficulty explaining. Let's do it again cause its not the same as brother muadh khan.

You said: in my personal opinion ot may be shirk/kufr.. yes?

So what I'm asking is, what makes u think 'it MAY be kufr shirk'

Is my question based on some preconceived notion in my mind or based on what u have said?

If I say about a practice 'it may be shirk', I can be asked why u think so?

My plain and simple answer would be 'its my feeling...I have no daleel'.

You are avoiding a plain and simple question!!

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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 16:52

I think we both made our point

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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 17:02

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Sorry I have a problem viewing on my mobile and tht post didn't apear.

No one believes the shirt is telling you. If someone believes it then we still need to ask the mufti if its shirk or not. Wudnt it be same as believing the medicine or the doctor cured me?
Would tht be shirk as well?

Let me explain what happens, the effects of sehr or shayateen come on the clothes a person wears. When u read manzil and blow, if its sehr the shirt contracts , if its jinns it expands. This happens bcoz the manzil has an effect on the asraat of sehr/jinns.

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#55 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 18:19

This is quite common practice among Ulema of Pakistan to measure shirts it's an illaj like giving blood test or X-ray it is not for blessing or sawaab so if the illaj does not fall under shirk it is jaiz Actually it is so common here that we find it strange people labelling it as shirk cause so many authentic ulema are involved

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#56 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 18:24

Another thing it is a matter of zauq or mizaj if somebody is uncomfortable with this method they can avoid it as it's just an illaj and there are other alternative methods

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#57 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 18:29

There are natural methods and results which are obtained through medical diagnosis and the shirt method is super natural. All I'm trying to say is be careful. I wouldn't do it

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#58 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2013 21:09

Q:) I am a Journalist and would like to know what to do for BlackMagic as my brother also suffers from it?

Encourage yourself, your family and your brother to be punctual in Salah and other aspects of Islam
Recite Manzil in the morning and evening and continue to do so until the problem is resolved.
Read the following verse (Durood before and after) 7 times and blow on a knife. Cut water with this knife and then make the patient drink the water, sprinkle on his bed and in four (4) corner of your house and continue to do so until the problem is resolved.

If the situation is worse then come to Jamia Binoria and see Shaykhl-Hadeeth (Maulana) Abdul-Majeed (HA).

Mufti Mohammad Hanif (HA)

Jamia Binoria (Karachi)

Cure from Jinn/Black Magic

Insha'Allah everyday recite surah Yaseen and Manzil after Fajar and blow on yourself and also blow on the water and drink it
Make dua with the intention to seek cure from the effects of Jinns and BlackMagic
It is strongly suspected that Insha'Allah the effects will be removed.

Mufti Nadir Jan (HA)

Jamia Binoria (Karachi)

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#59 [Permalink] Posted on 5th March 2014 08:40

can somebody post a download link to ruqya for black magic

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#60 [Permalink] Posted on 5th March 2014 09:04

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You will find what your looking for in the following thread inshaallah...

www.muftisays.com/forums/27-sharing-portal/4563-on-the-pe...

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