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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 9th July 2013 00:15
I read the following on a wifaqul ulama article about the hizbul ulama

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Who has written lies in his book about Mufti Shabbir Saheb of Darul Uloom Bury taking testimonies from some Darul Uloom Students? Mufti Shabbir Saheb has openly declared that, "my Angels are not even aware of me taking such testimonies!" Who should we believe? Mufti Saheb or Hizb ul Ulama?
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[quote]Who wrote the most disgusting, slanderous and disrespectful letters to the pious and most accepted buzrug of the UK? The founder of the first Darul Uloom in the UK (whose name we won't mention out of respect for the great man) Note: The Hizb ul Ulama are using the good name of Darul Uloom Bury to forward their false agendas and in private have written disgraceful letters to the great Sheikh. (We have copies of those letters, if Moulana Miftahi wants to see them to refresh his mind, we can provide them.)
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 9th July 2013 01:31
"Hizbul-Ulamah are on their own with their prayer timetable in the entire world and directly responsible for making the British Muslims continuing to eat when the fast has actually started! As long as British Muslims can live with this information that they are ALONE in the world and no Islamic organisation or major Scholar backs their fasting times and committed to answering Allah (SWT) on the day of judgement that's fine, our job is to provide the information."

In Canada, some of the Ulama follow 15 degrees for Fajr. Their masajid are big and cater to large communities so a lot of Muslims follow their timetables without knowing.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 9th July 2013 10:50

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Hizbul-Ulamah advocate even 13 degrees or less then 15!

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 9th July 2013 10:54

Anyone reading this should be left in doubt that Shaykh (Maulana) Yusuf Motala Saheb (HA), Shaykh (Mufti) Shabbir Saheb (HA) & Shaykh (Maulana) Saleem Dhorat Saheb (HA)have NOTHING to do with Hizbul-Ulamah and more importantly their foul mouth disrespect and abuse of Ulamah!

All of our Akabir are dignified Ulamah and humans so they will not get involved with mud-slinging of any sort...

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 16th July 2013 12:57
  1. Deobandees (worldwide) agree with Fast ending on 18 degrees
  2. Muslim World League discuss amongst Ulamah of many countries and multiple Madhabs and agree with Fast ending on 18 degrees
  3. Shaykh Haithamn Al-Haddad (HA) from amongst the Hanbalees/Salafees agree with Fast ending on 18 degrees
  4. Barelwees agree with 18 degrees and issue a Fatwa
    1. Barelwee Conference (Part 1)
    2. Barelwee Conference (Part 2)

British Deobandi Ulamah DEFY the whole world and carry on as normal risking the fasts of thousands of British Muslims.

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 16th July 2013 13:04

There are a few Barelwi Masaajid, that are not following their Ulama, just as these Deobandi Masaajids.

At he same time, this Masjid doesn't follow Saudi for Moon sighting!!

Double standards.

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 16th July 2013 13:15

I guess it will make our brothers and sisters happy that they are joined in by a Barelwee Masjid in DEFYING the consensus of world-wide Ulamah.

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 16th July 2013 13:21
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 16th July 2013 13:42
So there's a new form of Unity.

The Renegades - Members from BarEVILi, DeoBADI & SalaFREE.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 16th July 2013 14:07

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These are predominantly Ahl-e-Hadeeth Mosques as Salafees by and large agree with 18 degree opinion.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 16th July 2013 20:01
Another reason why most of the Muslims here in North America do not pray according to 18 degrees for Fajr is because some salah timetables use 15 degrees as their default setting for Fajr time.
For example, Islamicfinder:
islamicfinder.org/prayerCustomized.php?id=&city=toronto&s...

I checked IslamicFinder for London, UK and your default setting is MWL (18D) but for us it's North America (15D).

Only a person who knows about these issues and is willing to adopt to taqwa will change it to 18D. I myself had no idea about this and used the default calendar for years. Salah timings aren't really talked about outside of Deo Hanafi circle afaik.
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 17th July 2013 10:42
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 19th July 2013 11:10
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 20th July 2013 09:51

Asslamo Allaikum,

Maulana saleem Dhorat saheb (HA) also follows 18 degrees for Fajar.

Jazakullah Khairun

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd July 2013 10:12

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Can any one confirm what ruling Mufti Abdur Raheem Limbada is following and what his say is on this please.

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