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Asslamo Allaikum Brother,

I sincerely request to consider your emotional state and Insha'Allah we are brothers in Islam if you choose to discuss the matter with a calm demeanour and with the Sunnah and Akhlaaq of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) we can proceed.

It has been repeated MANY TIMES that I am neither issuing judgement nor making you or anyone else take anything. This is a public discussion in which I have quoted Ulama and the Hanafi Madhab.

Again, when your emotions are in check we can proceed until then you are free to do and say as you please and you will be held Accountable in front of Allah (SWT) for your presumptions.

Jazakullah Khairun

P.S: When you want to make your point in a calm manner backed by Shariah, please proceed.

No need to apologise, since I was there and heard it live I know exactly what was said and why and perhaps I made an error in explaining.

Shaykh (Maulana) Hakeem Akhtar (HA) is not a Mufti and that's what was being said. Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) and others have made many such statements about their Shaykh (Haji) Imdadullah Muhajir Makki (RA).

I have the greatest respect for Shaykh (Maulana) Abdur-Raheem Limbada (HA) from Darul-uloom Bury because he sat me down in my younger days (when I was influenced by Salaffiyyah) and took time to answer a lot of questions and instructed me to do my research and consult Ulama i.e. he instructed me to continue to learn and continue to grow.

: - ) Its time to revive the Tassawuff thread again : - )

Asslamo Allaikum,

Yes that's absolutely accurate that the Tassawuff he teaches is Mudallal minul Qur'aan wal-Hadeeth as he has learned from his Shaykh in many years of company.

So how does this contradict with the statement that he is NOT a Mufti in the Hanafi Madhab? Please explain?

Jazakullah Khairun

The Summary of the whole discussion is people have different levels of expertise in different areas.

Tassawuff is about following the Shaykh in matters of HEART and getting your Islah done UNLESS your Shaykh happens to be a Faqih as well and that's all which is being said.

Asslamo Allaikum Respected Brother in Islam,

You started the discussion and I have tried my best to explain the matter in return as courtesy as it is Sunnah.

It is apparent that I lack the skills and know-how to do so.

This is neither  controversial matter nor an issue of difference of opinion and it is perhaps.

Ulama have different areas of speciality i.e:

1. Some specialise in Fiqh
2. Some specialise in Hadeeth
3. Some specialise in Tafseer
4. Some specialise in Qir'aat
5. Some specialise in Tassawuff
6. And very rarely you have outstanding personalities which are specialists in ALL or most of these sciences

Shaykh (Haji) Imdadullah Muhajir Makki (RA) was a specialist in Tassawuff not in 1, 2, 3 or 4.

Similarly if a person's Shaykh is a specialist in "1" as well as "5" then the Mureed can follow him in both and get their Tassawuff & Fatwa from the same Shaykh IF not their Shaykh refers them to consult a Mufti (i.e. one is specialist in "1"), this is for laymen. This is common practise where even a "Maulana (let alone a laymen Shaykh)" may refer his Mureeds to a "Mufti" instead of giving them Fiqh advice.

The rules for Ulama and Muftees are obviously different as they may be specialist in 1, 2, 3 & 4 themselves OR may refer to their teachers or other Ulama.

Shaykh (Maulana) Hakeem Akhtar (HA) regularly and frequently refers people to consult Shaykh (Mufti) Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA) or now Shaykh (Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA) and other Muftees.

There are people who are eye-witnesses even in UK who saw and witnessed Shakhul-Hadeeth (Maulana) Zakariyya Kandhalwi (RA) referring his Mureeds to a "Mufti" for Fatwa.

Even a Shaykh who is a "Mufti" may refer to another "Mufti" for confirmation etc. There are many questions in Ahsul-Fatawa which are from "Muftees" asking for clarification or confirmation from Shaykh (Mufti) Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA).

Shaykh (Maulana) Abdur-Raheem Limbada (HA) very often refers OR quotes Shaykh (Mufti) Shabbir Saheb (HA) even though he is a Mufti himself!

So again I humbly request you and everybody else to NOT discuss or forward this conversation unless and until you understand this point beyond any ambiguity.

Again stressing, this has nothing to do with respect, stature and dignity of any Shaykh let alone Shaykh (Maulana) Hakeem Akhtar (HA) OR Shaykh (Maulana) Abdur-Raheem Limbada (HA) and that should be beyond any doubt and may Allah (SWT) save us from such matters.

Jazakullah Khairun

P.S: I have exhausted my human best to try to clarify this matter so you don't walk away with ambiguity and confusion and to Allah (SWT) we acknowledge our weakness.