On the Permissibility of Ruqyah

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#106 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2015 21:30

Treatment completed will bump this thread in 90 days to update on what's happening...

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#107 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2015 23:28

No comments from me, please don't ask. jazakallah.

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#108 [Permalink] Posted on 5th April 2015 05:44

for the optimistic, just to say Alhamdulillah it was a positive experience, but nothing that can be discussed on a public forum. Allah reward the shaykh and all his students, and grant cure to all those suffering, Aameen

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#109 [Permalink] Posted on 5th April 2015 08:29

An independent party should contact everyone who was there in 6 months and determine if it worked or not...

There is no other way to guage if it was a positive or negative experience. May Allah reward all those who were there as they appeared to be pious, practising and sincere people but it isn't about them as much as its about those are suffering.

Most of the people there have been through a million Amils and the Ummah needs some independent verification if this treatment is to be proved valid.

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#110 [Permalink] Posted on 5th April 2015 15:31

Jinn Catching (told that 5 Jinns took Shahadah)
Hijamah at multiple points
Ruqya by Shaykh himself

Patient is back to the same issues 12 hours later, not much difference. If reading and following instructions (given in the future) makes a difference I will let everyone know.

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#111 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2015 10:59

I found this thread very interesting and would like to thank the posters. I have a few ijazahs for amiliyaat though never really used it though I have a plan of asking a khalifah in the silsila of hazrat madni for ijazah in the amilyaat given by hazrat maulana fazlur rahman ganjmuradabadi which does not require zakat for them. I wish some sincere people would take up the work and that some salikeen would be trained for this work. It is an important service of religion considering how many people are misguided by fakes. It is an extremely dangerous path, requires a lot of dedication and one can easily slip.

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#112 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2015 11:14

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I observed the crew of Shaykh Ben Halima and I don't think that they are fakes and also sincere upon the Sunnah. They charged £50 for 12 Hijamas plus Olive Oil, printouts, Senna leaves, 2 Ruqya sessions so that's reasonable amount

If your method (or whiever method you want to pursue) is effective put it to the test.

If someone is treating people then the treatment should be effective that's the whole point!

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#113 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 12:41

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No they are not fakes as I have used them personally and have taken people their who have had issues and Alhumdulillah they did get resolved..

But it also depends on the seriousness of the situation of what you're in and how long you've had it, the general gist is that the longer you've had it the longer it will take to break it, when ever you go to any raqi/amil they just break that link temporarily and the rest to be honest is down to you how strong you are spiritually and how much you protect yourself by following the guidelines of the treatment and also what to do afterwards. Sadly its not a magic wand that you wave once all is done, once you have it its really a battle for life also depending on the severity.

Also another thing I'd like to add is that in a way this is also a blessing, in the sense it enables you to become spiritually stronger and get close to Allah swt

If the situation does deteriorate then contact the shaykh asap, but the main thing is you need to be punctual/consistent on your namaz/amaals/zikr etc and you can't slack one bit and if you do then to be honest you'll just be going from one person to another.

This shaykh is highly effective and his treatment does work for everyone that i've come across, sometimes different methods for work for different people.

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#114 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 13:02

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ALhumdolillah exactly what I told the patient to practise the verses the Adhkaar prescribed by the Shaykh (HA) and Insha'Allah they will be better.

They need to uplift themselves spiritually.

I don't think that they are fakes.

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#115 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 13:05

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Yes they do brother need to uplift themselves spiritually...

I've seen brothers who through this have become close to Allah, and they say if this makes me close to Allah then I never want it to go, just imagine that level of imaan, so its a blessing in disguise.

Just tell them to do the adkaar religiously and with the shaykhs method you don't need to keep going back and forth, he's told you what to do now it's down to you to uplift yourself like you said.

May Allah give him full shifaa -ameen

No they're not fakes, I got a few people treated for free told them brother is broke and jobless and they said no worries we'll do it free for the sake of Allah you just make sure you make dua for us.

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#116 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 13:11

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I saw them pray and get into a debate with the Somalees afterwards on some Mas'ail so I know that they are not fake! :P

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#117 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 13:15

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A lot of them are pro tabliighis and they are also anti-tawwez, I tried telling them there is a maslaha they didn't want to know :D So I thought fair enough because they probably they have their own personal experiences with it

The shaykh himself translated hayatus sahaaba in to french

they travel the world going from one place to another where this is common, training people, if they were they would have been exposed a long time ago

the jinn catching was something that happened by luck and the grace of Allah, shaykh mentions before it they were always on the backfoot but after this enabled them to be on the offensive rather always on the defensive side.

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#118 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 13:17

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Interesting you used to be very anti in becoming an amil, good to see your view has changed and yes we do need people to step up in this field.

Good luck brother, just make sure you learn from a shaykh and not just books.

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#119 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 13:17

Repeatedly went for 3 days to them due to issues with person I took, Alhamdulillah, all I can say is it was very enlightening, learnt a lot. Yes they are genuine, very effective for people possessed by jin, and not only effected by their mischief.

One very vital point. Taweez! Having visited many aamils one that sadly I also recommended many years ago, a renowned aalim, mufti and imaam of masjid, his taweez proved to be detrimental. They opened it up and explained the numbers, likened to a doorway to attract mischievous jins. They are still providing support via phone and the jin is getting weaker. It refused to take shahada and under no circumstances willing to leave this person even if it meant death for it.

Can't believe how people can turn to black magic to make people suffer. Very sickening, it is very sad how this person has suffered, Allah grant shifaa to all those afflicted. Aameen

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#120 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 13:21

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I was worried in the start that you might have had a bad experience and it was me who recommended the shaykh, relieved to see Alhumdulilah that you've had a positive experience with them.

They are busy no doubt and people come to them from all over the place, sometimes its hard to even get an appointment.

Remember one thing in this shaykhs treatment the gold dust is the showers and adkaar and they are never to be neglected.

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