The problem is this person won't pray....and won't do the Washing in water. Put it in spray bottle and that seems to be ok with them, but its agony for the jin.
I didn't want to discuss it initially as the first two days of treatment i heard it talking and it kept trying to attack me saying it was going to kill me and iblees would give me the same pain it was suffering, seriously you got to see it to believe it. I've lost my fear for stuff like that now, and seeing the power of Quran and the advises of the brothers their made me realize it's all just mischief, nothing can harm us but from the will of Allah. It definitely made me stronger in my imaan, fear no one and nothing but the displeasure of Allah.
Yeah it can be a bit freaky at first, different people react in different ways. First time I went I almost burst out laughing but had to bite my tounge to control myself as there were people there who were in agony.
I've experienced it sister and I know exactly what you mean, I took aI friends younger brother who was into violence, watching jihadi videos, guns etc and he caused big problems at home and outside always involved in fights, things were just getting worser and worser and he would listen to no one etc.. His Jinn come out in the end who was a violent one and wouldn't even go and wanted to kill the person if he left. ... And the brother just calmed down you could see it in his eyes the mellowness after the ruqya... Took another person and he had a darbari/dargah Jinn who on coming out started reciting nasheeds and loved fragrance and this is where I almost laughed. Then sometimes there's others or a clan and they don't say nothing so it varies. Took another brother alongside and they got him to do the ruqya with the raqi in the recital of some verses as his voice was loud and deep, however they did say that he doesn't know but spiritually he is stronger than both raqis put together.
However it was a very good experience and teaches you the importance of tauheed and Tawakkul... The raqi goes it's all about your yakeen and even one word like Bismillah/Allah can suffice you.. But that yakeen has to be there with firmness that nothing happens without the will of Allah, Allah is khaaliq Allah is Raaziq etc. Never be scared of these things because the truth they are scared of us.. ALLAH made insan his Khalifa on earth and not Jinns
Hearing about it and seeing it is completely different and when you see it or are part of it.. Then it takes your emaan upto another level.
So if a person does not complete, their course of treatment or only does the treatment randomly do these entities develop a resistance?
Similar to how diseases and viruses develop drug resistance, when a patient has failed to complete the course as prescribed. Most famously being the drug resistant strain of Tuberculosis
As for this group atleast the treatment their offering is not to stringent...Kind of advices one of the Brothers was offering on Sunniforum would be difficult to achieve even by the most accomplished Hafiz let alone some one who is affected, 125,000 recitations of ayat ul Kursi, and recting Surah Baqarah from morning to night.
Sometimes yes and sometimes no, pretty much depends on the severity of the case and how long he has had it, other factors will also come into play like his lifestyle is it sinful or pious, spirituality levels etc
Once we started treatment after maghrib on patient, the jin started suffering a lot but was adamant still not to leave, it was much weaker than when we first experienced it.
After much talking to it and reciting ayahs on jannah and jahannam, it wanted to go jannah but didn't want to become Muslim, then it was frightened that if it accepted Islam that it would be slaughtered by it's master. At this point felt pity for its suffering....Anyway to cut a long story short, in the end it took shahada, became Muslim and left.
Felt bad that it had suffered so much, Allah knows best and forgive us, and grant all the Muslims human and jin steadfastness in imaan and best of both worlds. Aameen.
I'm still anti bro for myself but not for the right person. The issue is I think somebody needs to do it but that 'somebody' is not me for sure. It was never a field that interested me much. My family don't really believe in such stuff too much but my inlaws do. The reason why the amilaayat of hazrat maulana fazlur rahman saab rh interested me was due to a few reasons. They are linked to a big muhaddith and the fact that one does not need to do long chillas for them. I was interested due to these reasons but I need to persuade somebody who has these. I'm just trying to understand this business having heard all sorts of amils say all sorts. I know a friend who was good at amiliyaat but he had to quiet due to his poor health. I don't think it is for most people. One needs a lot of time, strength etc.
Been listening to various Ruqyah CDS by making intention before listening, also listened to the various awrad compiled by the awliya, Hizb an Nasr, Hizb ul Bahr, Hizb Nawawi, and Hizb Ul Wiqaya all of them have an effect. Strange experiences and feelings on the body, comprising of rapid twitching of muscles, body feeling extremely hot, and a blinding headache, also feeling mentally drowsy and spaced out. Even tried making the intention of reciting istighfar throughout the day, with the intention of shifa from Jadoo etc, that also had an effect.
My assessment is that the symptoms probably get worse before they get better, and the real power lies in making the intention and making dua seeking Allahs help, before commencing the course of treatment.
Had Hijamah done last August, experienced a lot of pain after the treatment, and for about three days in a row, every day around Asr time I would get a fever. The fever would disappear during the day and return during the evening another strange experience.
I'm no specialist and Allah knows best, but this does sound like effects of jin, the heat rising from the effects of ruqya and causing it aggravation, and symptoms always starting after maghrib. Cupping, ruqya, duas, is best way forward inshaallah, Allah grant you shifaa, Aameen.
I showed shaykh Fusoos your post and his thoughts were similar to mine
First he said is you need proper ilaaj stop doing all this DIY
Secondly the hizbs you mentioned are extremely powerful and are mostly done with ijazah and you're doing all together, you don't have ijazah right? It could have an negative effect on you, get hurt etc
Yes niyyah and tawakkul plays a big part, if that is strong then even one word is enough to suffice you. Yes from what I've heard from shaykh Ben Halimas guys and others is things do get worse before getting better that's why the persistency and being consistent in whatever your doing is important.
Hijamah is good especially with ruqya, brother I suggest you seek a specialist. Also if you want to do the awraad above at least try getting ijazah in them, keep us the istigfar regardless of what happens and read more Quran and send abundant darood, however I agree with bro fusoos you need proper ilaaj.
Sharing this for purpose of educating on the sheikhs work....
Bismillah
I would like you tell you that sheik Abderraouf Ben Halima will be delivering a talk live on Sky TV channel 819 Iqra channel on the subject of Roqya presented by mufti suleman ghani.
Ar Ruqyah Ash Shirkiyah: this contradicts the conditions of Ash Shar'eeyah and has in it Shirk, associating partners with Allah. It leads a person to his destruction in this life and the next and increases calamities and sicknesses. This type of Ruqyah is prohibited, from the statement of the Prophet (saws) This type includes: Magic (whether learning, practicing, or teaching it), Fortune telling, Horoscopes, superstitious belief, and at-Tameemah ( charms and amulets).
Conditions of a person who treats with Ruqyah:
1) He must have the right belief in Allah (Based on Qur'aan, Sunnah, and keep away form Shirk, etc)
2) He must have sincerity in worshipping Allah and have a good intention in treating people
3) He must be firm in his obedience to Allah, and keep away form all that is forbidden
4) He must keep far away from all unlawful places and situations that canlead to what is forbidden, for example isolating himself with a female, etc.
5) He must guard the affairs of his patients and protect their secrets.
6) he must propagate the religion of Allah. Give the Patient advice and admontitions on the rights of Allah with regards to His commandments and prohibitions.
7) He should have knowledge about the affairs of the patient and sicknesses
8) He should have knowledge about the reality of Jinns (so as not to have them harm or threaten him while curing the patient)
Read the above, blow on your palms and pass them over the whole body, beginning with the face and head and then front of the body and then the back, including legs and feet.
Do the Amal after every fardh Salah and before going to sleep, that's a total of 6 times a day
Do it for 40 days continuously
InshaAllah everything will clear up and you will have special protection from Allah.
For ladies, start after period finishes and stop during the second period, then continue after that.
Another good practice would be to recite Surah Falaq and Surah Naas in the 2 Sunnah of Maghrib (using different surahs and combinations so that its not always the same in every sunnah of Maghrib) I will try and locate the reference for this inshaAllah. Heard this method plenty of times from the Ulama too where they mentioned that other surah's should be recited, but to try and add these two surah's too, Wallahu Alum.
However, It is preferable to recite after al-Fatihah Surah Kafiroon and Surah Ikhlas. Ibn Masood رضي الله عنه said: "I cannot count how many times i heard the Messenger of Allah recite, in the two rak'ahs after Maghrib and in the two rak'ahs before Fajr: Surah Kafiroon and Surah Ikhlas.
People are always looking for this dua or Wird or wadhifa and spend ages doing it, to be honest it's an indirect approach.
I can't stress more as to how important tilaawah of Quran is(Quran completions I'm talking about here, daily reading Quran at least a juzz or as much as you can) and Hijamah/cupping, there is cure in this so utilise it and don't neglect it.
Utilise the above and make a connection with you local mosque and you'll see your circumstances change drastically at least by half by the will of Allah
This cannot be undone and I am sure it will be greatly appreciated.
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recite, in the two rak'ahs after Maghrib and in the two rak'ahs before Fajr: Surah Kafiroon and Surah Ikhlas.
