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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 8th May 2012 13:17
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p.s how can yoou tell on the sofa's
They either tell you or you inspect it youself, it is very easy to tell, Allah has made its identification very easy for us, Alhumdulillah.

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 8th May 2012 13:19
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im confused.. where are the dots.. the top pic is not so clear but other dont show them either
The images were found using google images with "Pig Skin in clothing" The images are real examples so people dont just narrow it down to shoes. The pigs are everywhere!

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 8th May 2012 13:56
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 8th May 2012 14:19
Permissibility to use Leather Sofa/Couch

Question #: q-09435539

Date Posted: 2004-07-07




Is it permissible to buy a leather sofa even though you don't know what animal the skin has been derived from?




In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,


The basic ruling with regards to leather is that, with the exception of pig-skin, the skin of all other animals is considered to be pure (tahir) when it goes through the process of tanning, even if the animal is unlawful to consume (such as a lion), or the animal was not slaughtered according to the rules of Shariah. Pig, however, is considered to be completely filthy; hence its skin remains impure (najis) even after tanning.

Imam al-Quduri (Allah have mercy on him) states:

"Any skin which has been tanned has become clean, hence prayer is valid on it, and wudu from it - except the skin of a pig and human (m: human skin due to its honour)." (al-Lubab fi sharh al-Kitab, 1/47)

Therefore, it will be permitted for one to wear jackets, coats, shoes, use sofas and keep a wallet made from the skin of all animals except a pig. It will not be permitted to wear shoes or clothing from pigskin, and prayer in such items would be invalid.

Thus, it will be permitted for you to purchase leather sofas, as long as you avoid leather made from pigskin.

And Allah knows best

[Mufti] Muhammad ibn Adam
Darul Iftaa
Leicester , UK

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2012 09:11
Last Updated: 14/10/2009

Source: www.gmwa.org.uk/foodguide2/index.php?page=viewquestion&id...


In the Name of Allah, the Inspirer of Truth. Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

In our day and age of information and labelling, it is not too difficult to source the origin of products. For laymen, they should consult the Scholars and seek their advice when in doubt..

As far as food and consumables are concerned, all products are clearly labelled in the UK, hence it is quite easy to avoid products containing pork extracts such as gelatine.

Likewise calf Insulin can be used in place of pig insulin.

In the case of paints/paintbrushes - again Halal substitutes are available but if inadvertantly, paints/brushes made from pig products are used, the ruling is that once dry, it will not remain najis. (Impure). Only if they are touched with a wet hand/clothing, etc will the impurity transfer on to the body/clothes. To avoid this, one may wash the walls after the paint has dried. This will render the surface Taahir. (Pure).

Leather - Jackets, shoes, belts, bags etc - One may enquire from stores/supermarkets if not labelled.

And Allah knows Best Wa Alaykumussalaam Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh Web: www.foodguide.org.uk Mobiles: tinyurl.com/foodguide2

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2012 19:57

wow very intresting in getting depth of this topic, i have heard some similiar stories compared to this, some people do buy pig skin shoes but not deliberately but by accident and when pople actuslyy do realise the pig skin they try and put some other material on top of the skin, a lady had put a material- a material which had had foam in it so her feet couldnt touch the skin, i would do that if i had pig skin in my shoes,

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2012 20:30
none of the statements provide the reason why pigskin is haram. there are 4 verses in the quran which states that bloog, dead meat, and flesh of swine are haraam for food. there is no verse in the quran or hadith that specifically says pigskin is impure.
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2012 20:50
We follow our Salaf and not our own version of understanding. The Quran doesnt mention many things, neither does Hadith.

The Scholars have understood it as

Imam al-Quduri (Allah have mercy on him) states:

"Any skin which has been tanned has become clean, hence prayer is valid on it, and wudu from it - except the skin of a pig and human (m: human skin due to its honour)." (al-Lubab fi sharh al-Kitab, 1/47)


Should you wish to continue wearing filth, the choice is yours and when you return to Allah with nothing to your name, this may be a reason. You will not be able to say that "No one told you"


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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2012 21:33

"sweetmuslimahk1" wrote:

......they try and put some other material on top of the skin, a lady had put a material- a material which had had foam in it so her feet couldnt touch the skin, i would do that if i had pig skin in my shoes,

I wouldn't recommend that sister.

Wether it touches the skin or not, its still filthy.

Doing such a thing deliberately, Does one think that after sneezing, Allah will accept their dua, or give reward for giving Salaam etc.

Consuming Haram holds us back for 40 days of reward/recognition.

Would anyone pray Salah with blood stains on their clothing, and at the same time cover it up so its not visible or touching the skin.We mustn't fool our selves, and we surely can't fool Allah.

Off topic, but same principle. The Jewish women are ordered to cover their hair just like the Muslim women, but what do they do, they fool them selves by trying to bypass Allah's commands. They wear a wig and say they cover their hair, in fact many orthodox Jewish women shave their hair off completely then wear a wig. SubhanAllah, who are they trying to fool. This is just an example of how they are deluded and have gone astray.

Allahu alum.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 17th May 2012 01:52
Assalamualaykum.w.w.

I pray everyone is in the best of health wealth and imaan, Insha Allah.

Interesting topic!

Hush puppies use pig skin for their shoes. The Muslim sales assistant told me.

Wallahu a'lam
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 17th May 2012 20:51
abu mohammed wrote:
We follow our Salaf and not our own version of understanding. The Quran doesnt mention many things, neither does Hadith.

The Scholars have understood it as

Imam al-Quduri (Allah have mercy on him) states:

"Any skin which has been tanned has become clean, hence prayer is valid on it, and wudu from it - except the skin of a pig and human (m: human skin due to its honour)." (al-Lubab fi sharh al-Kitab, 1/47)


Should you wish to continue wearing filth, the choice is yours and when you return to Allah with nothing to your name, this may be a reason. You will not be able to say that "No one told you"


wow

It's getting so difficult to live as a Muslim. Even wrapping our feet in pigs
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 17th May 2012 21:36
I wouldn't say its getting difficult, Allah has made our deen so easy, it is us who make it hard upon ourselves.

What if Allah didn't give a unique sign to recognise the type of skin?. Our complain of difficulty would be valid.

Islam is not just a religion, it is a complete system of living. The perfect Deen, Alhumdulillah.
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 18th May 2012 13:24
Assalamualaykum.w.w.

I agree with brother abu muhammad.

Besides we wouldnt touch a pig so why would we wear shoes made of its skin? It doesnt make sense. Allah has made the pig haraam upon us for its filth and filth which is contained in the body is contained with the skin, tjerefore the filth would be in the skin too. Only makes sense not to wear it.

Wallah a'lam.
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 18th May 2012 19:30
I disagree, it is in fact difficult. How many people wear this without knowing? Ingredients in food, general perseption.. Holding onto Deen is very very difficult and I know about the Hadeeth about how difficult Islam will be at the end of times so I have Hadeeth, what's your Daleel? (lol I promise not to start)
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 18th May 2012 19:39
We are probably thousands of years away from the end of times.

I stick to my stance, the Deen is easy. There are those who can't live without the dunya and there are those whom the dunya doesn't even touch. I got a Hadith for that too. (there was a companion whom this was said about)

The more we desire the more we want, the less satisfied we become and want more. The less we desire, we feel content with what we have and thank Allah for it.

If you think about it, why did Allah create the pig in the first place.

(you almost got a thumbs down, then you made me laugh, Lucky)
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