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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 9th October 2006 23:41
I think it was better in the oId days of christain st down whitechapeI. OK the buiIding was terribIe to Iook at but boy was there noor/fikar in that shabby oId run down buiIding. PeopIe actuaIIy cared more about the work then as opposed to giving media interviews on "the biggest musjid in the uk and europe, wiII be doing this and that etc etc....."


the guys (not members of the main Iondon shura) who "think" they running the show now werent even hardIy in the effort in them days now they suddenIy think "WE are Iondon murkaz!". When the oId buiIding was there there werent hardIy anything to wory about with regards the buiIding as no one hardIy cared which Ieft them totaIIy commited to the work. Now theres this "wow wy �100m pIan" every tom, dick and abduI wants there names on it without giving those 20/30/40 years scarifice for the effort Iike aII the shurah eIders have given.

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 9th October 2006 23:45
I totally agree about the old Markaz. But i'm sure they have reasons for the new building.


And you really do need a new keyboard. Sorry off-topic... What you can do is highlight the letter L somewhere on the page, copy it (ctrl+C) and then whenever you need to use the letter, paste it (ctrl+V)

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 9th October 2006 23:48
but they need to expand...as the tabligh work is expanding so are the people in the work...therefore more space is needed..imagine the world ijtima happening right now in this markaz do you think there would be enough space to cater for so many people?
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 9th October 2006 23:59
Yeh new keyboard. Son thinks hes biII gates at 3 years oId. OnIy probIem is he's using his Bob the BuiIder hammer to press the keys. My L button sadIy got shaheed. i gonna do chanda for one at SH musjid.


yes that buiIding was smaII. To put it short without going into too much detaiIs Iets just says there are things going on behinds the scenes that are not very much pIeasing to Hafiz PateI saab and the eIders at Nizamuddin (in fact they are very unhappy). the saying "too many cooks spoiI the broth" wouId fit perfectIy here.

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2006 00:02
may allah make it all easy for them, and solve threre problems aswell as spread this work far and wide ameen.
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2006 00:21
Yeh, very much agree with what daywalk3r says. Old is gold as the saying goes.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2006 00:24
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may allah make it all easy for them, and solve threre problems aswell as spread this work far and wide ameen.


Ameen

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2006 10:43
bit more on the "proposed" project:-


.freshtechnology.net/science-mosque.php

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 22:19
from todays onIine teIegraph:-


Supermosque for 70,000 'will be blocked'
By Ben Leapman and Jonathan Wynne-Jones, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 2:14am GMT 20/02/2007


Controversial plans to build a "supermosque" on the doorstep of the London Olympics will be blocked by the Government.



Alan Craig is concerned about the security impact



Ruth Kelly's Whitehall department is expected to refuse planning permission for the London Markaz, which would be the biggest religious building in Britain with room for 70,000 worshippers.


Backers want the �300 million mosque, in east London, to serve as a reception centre for athletes and fans from Islamic countries during the 2012 games.


The group behind the plans is Tablighi Jamaat, a Muslim missionary sect whose charitable trust, Anjuman-e-Islahul Muslimeen, has owned the 18-acre site since 1996. Tablighi Jamaat was called "an ante-chamber for fundamentalism" by French security services. Two of the July 7 London suicide bombers are believed to have attended one of its mosques.


The organisation denies any link to terrorism, and has never been banned.


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A senior security source said that he was concerned about the proposed mosque, and expected ministers to use their powers to call in, and turn down, the planning application.


The move was confirmed by a senior Government source, who said there were fears that the giant mosque could damage community relations in the area, and added: "We are going to stop it."


There are clear planning grounds on which the development could be turned down. It is so close to the main Olympic venues that it may interfere with preparations for the Games.


The Government source said that the planning application needed to be rejected "to give the Olympics a clear run".


Until now, it was thought that planners would rubber-stamp the proposed mosque, which was agreed in principle in a 2001 deal between Newham Council and Anjuman-e-Islahul Muslimeen.


The London Thames Gateway Unitary Development Corporation, the quango with planning powers over the site, is understood to support the plans.


Tablighi Jamaat has hired a lobbying firm with a track record of supporting controversial planning applications, in an attempt to build political support for the project.


Indigo Public Affairs says that a formal planning application for the mosque will be submitted in the autumn, possibly with the size scaled back to meet some of the objections. A spokesman said: "Our client utterly refutes any links to terrorism. It is a predominantly apolitical organisation seeking to go about its faith in a peaceful way."


Tablighi Jamaat is a conservative and ultra-orthodox group with close links with the Wahhabi form of Islam practised in Saudi Arabia. Hundreds of British Muslims are sent by Tablighi Jamaat to madrassas in Pakistan every year, raising fears that some may be brainwashed. A leaked FBI memo alleged that al-Qaeda was using the organisation "as cover... to network with other extremists".


Mohammed Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer, two of the July 7 suicide bombers, are believed to have visited the organisation's European headquarters, a mosque in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire. Supporters of Tablighi Jamaat point out that even if this were the case, the mosque would not necessarily be the place where the pair were brainwashed.


Muslims living near the site, in West Ham, have raised more than 3,000 signatures on a petition calling for the project to be halted. They want any new mosque to draw in all strands of Islam.


Alan Craig, a Newham councillor for the Christian People's Alliance party, has warned of the "community and security impact" that the mosque would have, and claims Muslims are already moving into the area in preparation for its opening.


Ali Mangara, the practice principle at Mangera Yvars Architects, the firm behind the scheme, has promised that the mosque would be "inclusive".


A makeshift mosque currently on the site has been operating without planning permission for the past five months.


The plans will put the spotlight on Miss Kelly if she is still at the helm of the Department of Communities and Local Government when the decision is taken. Earlier this month she launched a �5 million fund for grassroots Muslim projects, while warning that "the battle for hearts and minds is more important than ever".


In a separate move, the Kingsway International Christian Centre, Europe's biggest evangelical church with a capacity of 12,000, is being pulled down to make way for the Olympics.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2007 08:54
its had a lot of bad publicity from day one, and now its getting too much publicity being the biggest masjid, (somthing people at the moment who fear muslims dont want to hear), all eyes are going to be on it 24/7, because the media love publicity they always gonna keep looking for things to highlight and make a big issues out of.


may allah سبحانه وتعالى remove all the veils of uncertainty and accept the work of deen by all involved with full humbleness and sincerity.

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