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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 5th August 2026 17:23
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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 5th August 2026 17:55
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what is the idiocy here?

First, we must discuss the first century hijri (622 CE to 721 CE) ; after that, we can move on to the fifth century hijri, 1187 CE to be precise.

However, we should not debate the events of the first century hijri (7th century CE). We are bound by our Aqeedah.
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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 6th August 2026 17:01
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Please explain what made all these people join up to defend Al-Aqsa and fight against Crusaders when they came from dustant lands, ethnicity, languages, color, etc?


Was it not a misconception to believe in 1947—by citing events from 1188 AD—that two Pakistans (East and West) could be established and they would remain united?

Azad was a realist; citing history, he had made it clear that East and West Pakistan would not be able to remain united.
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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 10th August 2026 19:47
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You are an idiot!

  1. I never asked an Aqeedah question
  2. I never discussed Sahaba (RA)
  3. He inserted Aqeedah and Sahaba (RA) himself into the conversation
  4. Then refused to answer it himself
  5. Then his own fingers started trembling


My question which has nothing to do with Aqeedah or Sahaba (RA) is still here and is is from 1187


Forget Hazrat Umar bin Abdul Aziz (RA) and even Ottomans until 1924! Let me take you in the middle of Islamic history

Salahuddin (RA):

  1. Nuruddin Zangi (RA): Turkoman Muslim who followed the Hanafi Madhab and Maturidi Aqeedah
  2. Salahuddin Ayyubi (RA): Kuridsh Muslim who followed the Shaf'ae Madhab and Ashari Aqeedah
  3. Qadi al-Fadil (RA): Arab Egyptian Muslim who either leaves Shiasm or was a Sunni but leaves the Fatimid regime
  4. Baha' ad-Din ibn Shaddad: Arab-Iraqi Scholar, followed Shaf'ae Madhab and Ashari Aqeedah
  5. Ibn Qudamah (RA): Arab Palestinian Scholars who followed the Hanbali Madhab and Athari Aqeedah



If you have doubts about my quotes, ask me for evidence and I will also ask you for your evidence for your quotes.

Please explain what made all these people join up to defend Al-Aqsa and fight against Crusaders when they came from dustant lands, ethnicity, languages, color, etc?

Take your time, use every tool at your disposal including AI and then explain this as it seems to be completely against

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Mr. Jinnah and his followers did not seem to realize that geography was against them. Muslims in undivided India were distributed in a way which made it impossible to form a separate state in a consolidated area. The Muslim majority areas were on the north-west and the north-east. These two regions have no point of physical contact. People in these two areas arc completely different from one another in every respect, except only in religion. It is one of the greatest frauds on the people to suggest that religious affinity can unite areas which are geographically, economically, linguistically and culturally different. It is true that Islam sought to establish a society which transcends racial, linguistic, economic and political frontiers. History has however proved that after the first few decades, or at most after the first century, Islam was not able to unite all the Muslim countries into one State on the basis of Islam alone.

This was the position in the past and this is the position today.



Clearly Islam was not failing to unite in 1187!

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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 11th August 2026 13:19
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Is the following true?
Muslims were disunited in shahadath of Hazrath Uthman RA, battle of jamal, battle of siffeen, karbala, attack on kaba by Hajjaj etc.

Azad has quoted the above events.

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#66 [Permalink] Posted on 12th August 2026 18:25
Dear Idiot!

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Maulana Azad (RA) writes on page 219

Mr. Jinnah and his followers did not seem to realize that geography was against them. Muslims in undivided India were distributed in a way which made it impossible to form a separate state in a consolidated area. The Muslim majority areas were on the north-west and the north-east. These two regions have no point of physical contact.

In other words, Maulana Azad (RA) and idiot such as yourself are proposing that India should not have been divided and Muslims remaining in the single country of India would have remained united!

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...Muslims were disunited in shahadath of Hazrath Uthman RA, battle of jamal, battle of siffeen, karbala, attack on kaba by Hajjaj etc. ..


All of these people lived in the same city close to each other so according Maulana Azad (RA) and idiot such as yourself why were they disunited?


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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 12th August 2026 18:28
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You are slandering ulema who were against partition.

We are presenting the reasons for the opposition to partition by those ulema.
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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 12th August 2026 18:32
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All of these people lived in the same city close to each other so according Maulana Azad (RA) and idiot such as yourself why were they disunited?


Why were there 2 power centers, 2 armies.
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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 12th August 2026 18:45
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Refrain from drug taking and idiotic logic!

  1. If physical distance is cause for disunity AND physical closeness is cause for unity
  2. THEN tell me why the following happened when they lived close to each other?

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...Muslims were disunited in shahadath of Hazrath Uthman RA, battle of jamal, battle of siffeen, karbala, attack on kaba by Hajjaj etc. ..


All of these people lived in the same city close to each other so according Maulana Azad (RA) and idiot such as yourself why were they disunited?
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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 13th August 2026 09:52
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Two groups live nearby and are not united; yet we had expected that East and West Pakistan would remain united.
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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 14th August 2026 14:30
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This thread is based on a lie! This Interview never happened and it is a forgery, please delete this thread and take appropriate actions.

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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 14th August 2026 14:51
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source of interview is the urdu book "ABUL KALAM AZAD" by Shorish kashmiri published from Lahore.

If someone doesn't trust the compiler of the book, no compulsion.
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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 16th August 2026 14:57
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#74 [Permalink] Posted on 16th August 2026 16:38
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