Origins of Islamophobia in India?

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 25th July 2026 18:03

Firstly, we make Dua for Allah Ta'ala to protect and safeguard all Indian Muslims (Ameen)

Indian Ulama have shouted this propaganda from the rooftops that the dire condition and circumstances of Indian Muslims is due to two factors:

Creation of Pakistan in 1947
Muslims of India being careless and offending Hindus by consuming beef and not being respectful to Hindu religion from 1947 onwards

The Druggie, Dishonest, Liar even writes it directly...

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Islamophobia gained strength because MUSLIMS CONSUMED BEEF from 1947 to 2014.

I have just 1 question for Indian Deobandi Ulama and Indian Muslims

Maulana Ilyas (RA) and Tableeghi Jamaat:

In the book on the life of Maulana Ilyas (RA) and origins of Tableeghi Jamaat by the eminent Indian Scholar Abdul-Hasan ali Nadwi (RA) [1914-1999] writes

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...A measure of his Fide of Faith was that he stoutly fought against the Shuddhi Sanghatan movement that was launched, in the twenties...

And he categorically states that Maulana Ilyas (RA) fought against and created Tableeghi Jamaat against Shuddhi Sanghatan movement in the 1920s!

Shuddhi Sanghatan movement

Shuddhi means Purification
Sangathan means Consolidation

This was a movement in India in 1900 to beat, torture, boycott, coerce Muslims of India and force-convert to Hinduism which the Scholars of India rightly opposed.

Maulana Ilyas (RA) founded the Tableeghi Jamaat to counter this movement and to have an organized response to the force-conversion of Muslims to Hinduism.

The idea of Pakistan or separation of India didn't even exist in 1900s so when will the Indian Ulama STOP selling their propaganda to Muslims and STOP telling them to continue to compromise their religion? This strategy has clearly not worked since 1900 until 2026 and things continue to get worse for Muslims...

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 25th July 2026 18:05

My point of this thread is simple

Indian Muslims are not responsible for their dire condition and Genocide!
Just like Palestinian Muslims are not responsible for their dire condition and Genocide!
There is nothing Indian Muslims or Palestinians Muslims can do in appeasement to change their situation!

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 25th July 2026 19:52

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the dire condition and circumstances of Indian Muslims is due to two factors:
Creation of Pakistan in 1947

No doubt, 85 crores one single group of muslims vs divided Hindu society, they would have dictated their terms,

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Muslims of India being careless and offending Hindus by consuming beef and not being respectful to Hindu religion from 1947 onwards

Till 1947 there were British laws. In 1947 India became a Hindu majority country. Laws were made by MPs from these majority community MPs. Muslims had no option but to compromise on their eating habits. But likes of Maududi provoked them.

Sangh parivar was quoting these so called misdeeds of muslims and silently poisoning minds of Hindus. Finally 2014 gave them solid results and there is no going back now.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 25th July 2026 19:57

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Till 2014 there were negligible number of audience among hindus for these texts and speeches.

We muslims were sleeping and were complacent. While sangh parivar was silently poisoning the minds of majority community.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 25th July 2026 22:06

Challenge to Indian Ulama and Muslims:

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Till 2014 there were negligible number of audience among hindus for these texts and speeches.

1923: Muslims Newspaper Report from Darul-uloom Deoband website:

darululoom-deoband.com/en/preaching-services-0f-darul-uloom/

In the particulars of the years A. H. 1341-42 [1921-1922] the most important event is that regrettable incident of Shuddhi (lit. purification, i.e., conversion of the Muslims to Arya Samaj) and Sangathan (Hindu solidarity), which diverting the Darul-Uloom from its own internal affairs, had drawn all its attention to itself. This unpleasant incident in the history of India was an organized movement of the Arya Samaj started with the purpose of converting simple-minded Muslims, ignorant of Islam, to Arya beliefs. This movement looks very queer in the context of the politics of that era and the Hindu-Muslim unity. To understand it properly if is necessary to know its background.

First: Defensive Approach of Darul-uloom Deoband

...On this extremely delicate occasion the Darul-Uloom did what be seemed a religious institution. In this connection, before launching a defensive and counteractive action, the Darul-Uloom first morally appealed to the All-India National Congress that using its catholic influences it cries a halt to these aggressive activities...

Defensive Approach of Darul-uloom Deoband Fails...

It can be called nothing but ill luck of the country that at that time this conciliatory appeal of the Darul-Uloom ended up as a cry in the wilderness. On the other hand, when news arrived incessantly in the Darul-Uloom, through letters and newspapers, of the intolerable communal activities of the Arya Samaj and the apostasy of the neo-Muslims, a delegation of preachers was dispatched on 12th Jumad-e-Ukhra from the Darul-Uloom.

Second: Aggressive Approach of Darul-uloom Deoband

This assault of the Arya Samaj was so severe that a mere “defensive attitude” was not sufficient to hold it at bay. Hence as an aggressive method, arrangement for the study of Sanskrit was made in the Darul-Uloom to equip the preachers with the direct knowledge of the Arya creed.

Conclusion:

Darul-uloom Deoband knew in 1920s that it was impossible to live with Hindus in India from experience what can be understood clearly from the verse of the Qur'aan about Jews and Hindus (idolators)

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Yet to this day in 2026, the Ulama of India continue to propagate false hope and false theories that:

Creation of Pakistan in 1947 caused the Hindus to develop Islamophobia in India against Muslims
If Pakistan wasn't created then United Muslims of India would have been better for Muslims of India
Muslims of India are responsible for onslaught of Hindus and genocide towards them

My point of this thread is simple

Inevitable Conclusion for Indian Muslims by Indian Muslims:

When you look away from the Political views of Indian Ulama, you arrive at the inevitable conclusion proposed by Sharjeel Imam who is in prison since 2020 for no crime by Indian Government

thepolisproject.com/read/sharjeel-imam-jinnah-democracy-m...

If the thoughts of Sharjeel Imam take hold among Indian Muslims, the Indian Ulama will no longer be able to control the masses of Indian Muslims and force them into Hindu subjugation and will no longer be continue to willingly prepare Indian Muslims to sacrifice their religious obligation to appease the Hindus of India.

Treatment of Ulama of other Ulama:

The Pro-Hindu Ulama hounded other Ulama who foresaw and realized that it was not possible for Muslims to live under Hindu subjugation and two key names who were hounded were:

Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA): He clearly advocated that it is not permissible in Islam for Indian Muslims to accept the leadership of a Pervert Hypocritical Hindu Con-man called Mahatma Gandhi , his advice and opinion was ignored and overruled in the name of political difference of opinion among Ulama
Maulana Anwar Shah Kashmiri (RA): He was forced to resign and leave Darul-uloom Deoband

Terrorism and Violence is not for Indian Muslims:

I have said this before

www.muftisays.com/forums/27-sharing-portal/13696-indian-m...

All I want is for Indian Muslims to realize that the more you listen to your Pro-Hindu Ulama and keep giving up aspects of Islam, your situation has not changed for a 100 years and will not change for the next 100 years!

Dear Indian Muslims:

Your actions are not responsible for Hindu hate towards you.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 25th July 2026 22:18

Pakistan is a failed state in every metric, Pakistan is a client state of the CIA and Pakistan Army is a bootlicker and rent-a-solider for America and has been since 1948

This does not change the reality for Indian Muslims and if you keep giving up aspects of Islam, your situation has not changed for a 100 years and will not change for the next 100 years!

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2026 01:56

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Indian Muslims are losing their citizenship because they could not change their eating habits.
Taste buds were preferred over practicing islam in a peaceful and harmonious atmosphere.
Now suggest ways on how to mitigate.
Of course not your non feasible qitaal option.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2026 02:11

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Maulana Anwar Shah Kashmiri (RA): He was forced to resign and leave Darul-uloom Deoband

He left Deoband in 1927..
I read his biography. The reason given for his resignation is differences in administration of darul uloom and offering better facility for students. Other scholars who resigned from darul uloom were mufti shabbeer ahamed usmani, mufti azeezur rahman , maulana badr alam meerathi, maulana siraj ahmed rasheedi, maulana hifzur rahman seohari, maulana idris ahamed, mufti ateequr rahman usmani etc.

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2026 08:07

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Which aspects of Islam will be practiced when the Hindu majority purchases the Imaan of Muslims in exchange for Indian citizenship? There are hundreds of thousands of such Muslims in whom no trace of Islam remains—neither Friday prayers nor Eid.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 27th July 2026 19:53

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This Druggie, Dishonest, Liar has inadvertently raised a very important issue. Originally many Senior Ulama such as Maulana Anwar Shah Kahmiri (RA) were adamant supporters of Hindu-Muslim unity to the extent that he gave a powerful set of speeches in 1927 in Peshawar which were later translated and published into Urdu

dud.edu.in/images/pdf/AllamakiSiyasiBasiratFinal.pdf

on page 132 writes about cow-slaughter Maulana Anwar Shah Kahmiri (RA) advises the Muslims

...Thus it is the right of a Muslim to sacrifice his personally owned cow in his personally owned land for his religious ritual sacrifice or merely for food but since this causes distress to Hindus then the slaughter should not be done in front of Hindus but in a way and place which is away from the view of Hindus...

Maulana Anwar Shah Kahmiri (RA) advises the Hindus on the next page

...Hindus have the right to have processions on the streets accompanied by musical instruments but if this causes disturbances to Salah (in Mosques) or neighborhoods then Hindus should refrain from these in those circumstances ...

Maulana Anwar Shah Kahmiri (RA) addresses both Hindus and Muslims on the next page

...Thus if Hindus demand consideration from Muslims when it comes to cow-slaughter then Hidnus must also be prepared to offer concessions to Muslims when it comes to street processions and Musical instruments ...

However...

After advocating Hindu-Muslim unity and realizing that it is not plausible due to Hindu dishonesty it is not possible for Muslim-Hindus to live in harmony

As page 164 of this book describes

dn760006.eu.archive.org/0/items/02122020/TEHREEK_E_PAKIST...

Maulana Anwar Shah Kahmiri (RA) became disillusioned with this mantra of Hindu-Muslim unity and resigned from Darul-uloom Deoband when he realized that Darul-uloom Deoband had become a center of Hindu-Muslim unity and political efforts associated with it.

Maulana Anwar Shah Kahmiri (RA) passed away in 1933 long before Pakistan movement was in full swing but his association with Allamah Iqbal (RA) and association of his students tells the story that Hindu-Muslim unity mantra is not possible!

All of this is happening long before 1947.

The rule of Muslims had come to an end in India 60 years earlier so these Ulama tried all these strategies:

1857: Fought the British
1909-1924: United with the Hindus to save the Ottoman Empire
1924-1930s: Advocated Hindu-Muslim unity and Compromise
Beyond 1930s: Realized that Hindus cannot be trusted!

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Having no choice, advocated for separation of Muslims

A large number of Indian Ulama chose to prioritize India as a motherland over Islamic concept of Tawheed vs Shirk and Indian Muslims chose to place their trust in Democracy and Hindus.

We are where we are in 2026.

Instead of realizing the error and admitting after 100 years of real-world experience, the Indian Ulama under Jamiat Ulama-e-Hindu keep on doubling down and Indian Muslim keep on getting killed.

Indian Ulama and Indian Muslims keep on blaming Muslims for their slaughter and genocide.

At least the Palestinians do not hold themselves to be responsible for Israeli Genocide.

Indian Muslims keep thinking that if they give up meat (given up cow a long time ago) and Adhan, they will not be oppressed

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 28th July 2026 01:39

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Now, zealot followers of Maududi do cow slaughter on eid day and land in jail.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 28th July 2026 15:09

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What we saw from 1857 until 1920s was that Ulama constantly creating strategies and adjusting tactics until the Ulama fell into to camps:

1. Those who realized that Hindus cannot be trusted thus a cooperative strategy is no possible
2. Those who doubled down and continued to cooperate with Indian National Congress in the “hope” that it works.

What the Indian Ulama were not aware of and perhaps still not aware of it is that Hindus actively dispatched think tanks to Spain to study how Muslims (and consequently Islam) was wiped from Andalusia, today we are aware of many such trips but at least in 1920 and then in 1974 (after Bangladesh won its independence).

Thus, the Hindus have deeply studied the issue and are hellbent on wiping Muslims (and consequently Islam) from India and they look for strategies (i.e. cow slaughter, Adhan, Namaz in public places, Love-Jihad, Muslim Gym instructors etc)

The Indian Ulama some naively and some deliberately put all their eggs in the basket of Indian National Congress and by Indian National Congress losing power and its powerbase eroding in India (due to rising Hindutva) Muslims are at the butt of oppression because they are (rightly) seen as supporters of Indian National Congress.

Some of these political Indian Muslims have become enormously rich in the process and they have legal fights among each other for power and riches while continuing to double down on their strategy which is pretty much the same since 1920s which is to appease Hindus and keep on giving concessions.

The Indian Muslims are programmed from the mimbar to be subservient, meek, docile to Hindus and every act of oppression towards Muslims is framed as a “fault of Muslims” i.e. some Muslim in some part of India ate Meat therefore rape of Muslim women in other distant part is justified.

A group of Muslims prayed Namaz on a public Road so burning of Muslim property thousands of miles away is justified.
The Hindus are doing it smartly and deliberately and putting it center and focus that Muslims deserve this treatment because they don’t have civic sense or are inflaming Hindu sensitivities etc.

There is a rising realization among many Indian Muslims particularly university graduates that their plight is impossible and it is not feasible to live with Hindus side by side.

The Indian security Services (just like Pakistani Security Services) controls Ulama and Institutions because it allows them to extend control over the population and they clearly and plainly say it.

This is a small clip from Indian NSA as part of their doctrine of “Offensive Defense”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ZvUCbtIe0

The religious Muslims simply parrot the lines of the Ulama without any reflection that a strategy which has not worked for a 100 years will not work for another 100 years.

It is not possible to penetrate the minds of thousands of Indian Muslims who have submitted to the policies of these Ulama but a greater awakening is already afoot among Indian Ulama.

The Ulama did and continue to naively believe that these waves of (cow slaughter, Adhan, Namaz in public places, Love-Jihad, Muslim Gym instructors etc) against Muslims are simply coincidental!

The Ulama also naively believed that “bashing Pakistan” will endear them to Hindus and by all means bash Pakistan, in fact I believe every Indian Muslim should be staunchly “Anti-Pakistan” if it protects their lives, property and honur, then so be it!

Once again, let me end by saying that Terrorism and violence will not work for Indian Muslims and they will get slaughtered due to population spread and Indian Military, Police and Paramilitary forces and Indian Government will easily turn the majority population violently against Muslims.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 28th July 2026 15:35

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For seventy years, what did the followers of Maududi practically do to counter the propaganda of the Sangh Parivar?

Nothing!!!!

They were aware of the conditions that are unfolding today 30 or 40 years ago...
They did nothing.
They raised the alarm for rising tide of danger—good thing—but what were practical steps taken to counter it?
Nothing.

200 million Muslims were available to them. They had good orators, writers, counselors, literature..... but finally what they achieved is... we do intention to do something.. That something didn't take real shape.....nashisthan, guftan, barkhaastan.

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