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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2026 15:02
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No! Shaitan is the most patient one of us all. He will wait our entire life to mislead us in the end. It is delusional to think what you were thinking when the Quran is very very clear!

Indians talk more about Salman Khan than Salman al-Farsi! Think about that.

The names on the youth is not Umar or Uthman, it's Sachin & Dhoni.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2026 16:01
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How do muslims live in the west as Minority
Dayar e gair mein rahne wale musalmanoen se khitab
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Hakeemul Islam Ali Mian Nadvi

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2026 16:09
Sorry I’m just curious. Did someone actually get caught doing drugs?
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2026 17:28
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Jazakallahu khair for uploading this book in English. I was attempting to translate the book....

In this book, I didn't read words like "hate them", "disobey them"....
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2026 18:01
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No!..Muadh it seems has decided to replace his favourite insult of
"Jack Ass", with "druggie", although I personally think the former old fashioned insult had a greater sense of nostalgia attached to it.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2026 18:05
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“There is nothing in our book, the Koran, that teaches us to suffer peacefully. Our religion teaches us to be intelligent. Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery. That’s a good religion.”
— “Message to the Grass Roots,” speech, Nov. 1963, Detroit (published in Malcolm X Speaks, ch. 1, 1965).
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2026 18:16
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We take it as elder brother's joke.......

We salute him for the knowledge he has acquired.

He is compared with a Hafiz reciting Quran in taraweeh, and we as Saamae (listener), who corrects the hafiz (negligible instances). A listener can't be compared with a haafiz in the mehraab.
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2026 18:31
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ulema say "Where there is no clear nass (authentic reference) on a matter under discussion, difference of opinion exists. No harm there". "Absolute opposition is wrong"
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2026 18:35
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the period under Hajjaj bin yusuf and Yazeed, Abdullah ibn Umar RA and other senior Sahabah silently suffered.
While Hazrath Hussain RA and sayeed ibn Jubayr RA and others preferred martyrdom.
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2026 18:49
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As for the topic of this thread, it is based on a false premise, false assumption.

I put it to you if the Muslims in India, were dominating the fields of Science, medicine, engineering, business, trade, contributing through charitable works etc.

The outcome would have been the same as you are seeing today. There situation would be the same...

Only the propaganda against Muslims would be packaged differently. The Muslims would be accused of building their success at the expense of the majority, and if seeking to dominate the majority community. By being over representative in various fields.

We have seen that over the course of the last 100 years, how successful minority communities, become a cause for grievance to the majority. Even amongst the Indian Diaspora, in East Africa, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Burma they faced communal violence and expulsion for being too successful.

The lessons we should have been learning is not from India. But Islamic Spain, from Cordoba, and Grenada and Al Andalus and the Iberian peninsula.
How did one of the most successful communities,both vast contribution in every single field, end up perishing...


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