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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 17th June 2026 15:09

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You don't know indian conditions. If someone differs with authorities, it is taken as dissent. And a job hunter HAS TO GO WITH OFFICIAL VERSION, else he shall lose marks. Official version is..... USA is powerful, its Iron dome is capable of neutralising any missile, Israel has it and it has neutralised every single missile coming from Iran. Aamanna wa saddaqna, go with this version and get marks.

I have explained it with example, science teacher teaches theory of evolution, just write it get marks. I can differ and explain the theory in private talks.

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 17th June 2026 15:12

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Removal of WAHN is the solution. Said it before, will keep saying it!

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 17th June 2026 15:16

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OK, We don't follow our desires and we are not afraid of difficulties.... Then... will Indian problems will be solved.

Quote me an example, in which country where muslims are in minority have solved their problems after removing wahn.... only a dream is sold.
remember, 99% are not practicing muslims. Only partial Islam is there in about 5% Indian Muslims. It applies for Uk and west too.

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 17th June 2026 15:35

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I'll give you India as an example where India Ruled!
www.muftisays.com/forums/14-peoples-say/12969-who-does-in...
How did we get where we are today?

Anyways, let's stay on topic please.

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 17th June 2026 15:39

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Before analyzing sub-continent, analysis is required on how saudi got there, how the arabs got there. In future, after few decades, we may have to analyze how afghans got there.

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 17th June 2026 15:43

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Remember , India was ruled by muslims, by kings. not by saints. Akbar had a muslim, hindu and a christian wife at the same time. Fatima, maryam and jodha.

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 17th June 2026 16:28

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And you don't know what you are talking about at all.

The fact that in your mind "Iron Dome is best, Saar", "let me prostrate, Saar"...is the official version and therefore in your mind you dare not disobey or digress is the problem!

Imagine 200+ million Muslims so scared and petrified that:

They think it is "official" stance to not criticize the defense technology of a 3rd country
They think that they will go to Jail or be punished for quoting a US think-tank, the very same country which invented the iron dome!

Now tell me:

Why are Indians Muslims more chicken and subservient compared to Palestinian Muslims under Israel?
Why are Indians Muslims more chicken and subservient compared to British Muslims and what they endured after 9/11 and 7/7?
Why are Indians Muslims more chicken and subservient compared to American Muslims and what they endured after 9/11 and continue under Trump?
Why are Indians Muslims more chicken and subservient compared to French Muslims whose value and Islamic symbols (Mosques, Hijab, Niqab etc) are constantly under assault?

Do you think the Palestinian, British, American and French Muslims are all practicing, 100%?

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 17th June 2026 16:51

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Imagine 200+ million Muslims so scared and petrified that:

They think it is "official" stance to not criticize the defense technology of a 3rd country
They think that they will go to Jail or be punished for quoting a US think-tank, the very same country which invented the iron dome!

!It is not about 200+ million Muslims, we are discussing 1500 million Indians.

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Now tell me:

Why are Indians Muslims more chicken and subservient compared to Palestinian Muslims under Israel?
Why are Indians Muslims more chicken and subservient compared to British Muslims and what they endured after 9/11 and 7/7?
Why are Indians Muslims more chicken and subservient compared to American Muslims and what they endured after 9/11 and continue under Trump?
Why are Indians Muslims more chicken and subservient compared to French Muslims whose value and Islamic symbols (Mosques, Hijab, Niqab etc) are constantly under assault?

Do you think the Palestinian, British, American and French Muslims are all practicing, 100%?

Indian muslims have survived:

riots after partition
riots after babri masjid demolition, it was a miracle that Indian muslims survived here.
Invasion of idiots in Bombay.

When there was secular government, we challenged decisions against Islamic principles.
After 9/11, 7/7, UK and US muslims also survived under secular government. Western muslims did not install seculars, it is a gift from Allah SWT. West muslims have not tasted non secular fanatics.
we are hearing sermons from UK because they are under seculars. In India too, we heard sermons when there was secular government for 70 years. after 2014, even telescopes and microscopes can't trace them, all vanished. Jaise thhe hi naheen.
Learn from India, don't misuse freedom under seculars.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2026 01:17

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!It is not about 200+ million Muslims, we are discussing 1500 million Indians.

Basic Math:

The population of Muslims in India is circa 200 Million as per BBC and other sources
The population of the World is 8,300 Million
The population of Muslims in the whole World is 2,000 million

According to your ridiculous estimate 1,500 million live in India which means that out of total of 2,000 million Muslims worldwide 75% live in India

so let me ask you two questions Brother:

Do you take drugs?
Do these drugs come from BJP?

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2026 06:48

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he said 1500 million indians.
not 1500 million muslims

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2026 10:08

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Indeed that is the solution, but how we remove that WAHN is where we hit the snag. Islam tells us the way is dawah. Enjoining of good and forbidding of evil. Whether through verbal means. Or through physical means.

If we Muslims of the world start with the former strategy, it's gonna take another 50-100 years to have a generation without WAHN. That also if we do it right. Problem is, we don't want a better Muslim world when we have long been gone to our graves. We want it now. We want it to happen within our lifetime. If that's not possible, we have no motivation to pursue the removal of WAHN.

And then we come to the only strategy that actually applies to modern times and its needs. But that is something we don't want to hear about. We all know that is what we have to do, but we hate the mention of it because that strategy itself is the antithesis of WAHN.

Note that, our tenure in this world has been deliberately scripted this way so that in the end there is no other way but that second strategy left to us. The ahadith point towards that only in its end of times' predictions. There is no mention that there will be a Tehreek-e-imaan that will eventually after so and so years change the hearts of people and then people will meet Isa عليه السلام having been totally reformed. No, by hook or by crook, Muslims will have to adopt that strategy. And those who don't, will be thrust into it. We can see the examples of those in the modern world today.

In short, if we are unable or unwilling to work towards removal of love for the dunya from our hearts, then Allah will remove those things that we love and the ruthlessness of that might be what jolts us awake from our slumber.

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2026 11:19

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When I analyze the condition of ummah.... I am satisfied if a muslim applies in his life this part of ayah and works towards it.

"...... wa la tamootunna illa wa antum muslimoon".
"..... do not die except in a state of Islam"

Rest can wait....

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