The International Stabilization Force (ISF) in Gaza

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 17th December 2025 19:36

Israel inflicted unimaginable barbarity in clear view of the world upon Gaza, committed genocide and horrific human rights abuses yet failed in their singular objective

Mission: Disarm Hamas!

Now the world wants to give this mandate to 3rd party for others to incur casualties on behalf of Israel to disarm Hamas/Palestinians in the name of International Stabilisation Force (ISF)

This isn't about peacekeeping or protecting Palestinians but clearly about disarming Palestinians so they are like canon fodder to be butchered by Israel.

Lets evaluate the Pros/Cons of each nation and its army in the light of this clear objective.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 17th December 2025 20:04

Nation Evaluation:

USA: America and Americans are sick and tired of forever wars and its financial costs on US economy. The moment American soldiers land in Palestine, they will be a clear and present target. It is unlikely to happen for ISF but I strongly believe that at some point in the future American forces will be redeployed in (large numbers) in the Middle East to protect Israel, I believe this to be simply inevitable.
Israel: Tried everything and failed! Simply unable to absorb the loses against Palestinians.
Egypt: Willing to die for Israel but lack experience in peace keeping or disarmament role and cannot operate on its own. Will need a "War on Terror" or "Fighting Terrorism" pretense to deploy in Palestine and disarm Hamas. Israel agrees with their presence but knows military limitations.
Indonesia: Willing to die for Israel but lack experience in peace keeping or disarmament role and cannot operate on its own. Will need a "War on Terror" or "Fighting Terrorism" pretense to deploy in Palestine and disarm Hamas. Israel agrees with their presence but knows military limitations.
Turkiye: Fully capable, operationally, logistically and tactically from a military perspective to operate but there are two problems. Firstly, Israel will never allow Turkish military to operate so close to it (for HUMINT and SIGINT) i.e. intelligence gathering reasons. Secondly, Turkey has semi-democracy and if there is an incident against Palestinians the Turkish society will rise up and Erdogan (or whoever) will be swept aside in the wave of public anger. Israel has rightly declined it.
Pakistan: General Asim Munir will sell his mother for money and the Ulama in Pakistan will back up this option under some pretext "Fighting Terrorism" etc and duly issue Fatwaas in favour. The Army will hand pick soldiers and they will duly shoot/kill Palestinians or whoever without a second thought! Israel knows and agrees. However, a large number of rank and file Pakistani soldiers will not accept shooting Palestinians and this will tear the fabric of Pakistani military and society.

The Ulama in Pakistan issue Fatwaas in support of National policy all the time, for example:

Fighting in Afghanistan was Fardh and Virtuous from 1979-1992.
Fighting in Afghanistan was ambiguous from 1992-2001.
Fighting in Afghanistan was discouraged from 2001-2021 and a foreign matter.
Fighting against Afghanistan is Fardh and Virtuous from 2024.

The clear and candid choice for both Americans and Israelees is Pakistan which will do whatever is necessary for peanuts.

December 16, 2025: Pakistan's military chief Asim Munir in spotlight over Trump's Gaza plan

www.reuters.com/world/china/pakistans-military-chief-asim...

This will tear Pakistan if General Asim Munir goes for it but he has no choice!

He is unpopular in Pakistan
Pakistan economy is in tatters

Traditionally Pakistan Military has always done the bidding for America whenever it falls on hard times i.e:

General Ayub: In the 1950s onwards to the extent to providing US Airbases for Captain Gary Powers to fly over USSR. This caused catastrophic hatred between USSR (and its client state Afghanistan) which persists to this day.
General Zia: Armed Mujahideen at the behest of American (CIA) and then thrust them over Afghanistan resulting in bloodshed for 4 decades for which people of Afghanistan will never forgive Pakistan. Pakistan could have assisted in Jihad and then left it for the Afghans to decide their own rules, instead the ISI tried to dictate terms in Afghanistan for decades.
General Musharraf: Gave airbases to America to conduct operations from Pakistani soil against the Taliban (which Pakistan had assisted), arrested and handed them to Americans.
General Kayani: Blockaded the retreat of Taliban 1.0 back into Pakistan
General Bajwa: Ousted the democratically elected Government of Imran Khan when it started making noises about Islamophobia.

The track record of Pakistani Army generals for the past 70+ years and its disasters are in front of us to witness but none of them have been so desperate and so needy and yet so incompetent as General Asim Munir. This guy takes being a dumbass to the next level!

If Pakistan Army deploys to Gaza, that will be the end of the Nation of Pakistan as we know it.

A Democratically elected Government will never do it! In other words, Imran Khan had to be removed not only from power but even from the circles of powers or from any connection to the people of Pakistan.

YET People in Pakistan communicate with outsiders and reveal Government plans and secrets so curtail this possibility WhatsApp is to be officially banned on Government devices soon.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 19th December 2025 17:47

Gaza: Yellow Line and ISF Deployment

The total size of Gaza is about 365 square kilometers (141 square miles) in area. It is a narrow coastal strip of land about 41 km (25 miles) long and between 6 to 12 km (3.7 to 7.5 miles) wide, roughly shown here:

Israel has divided Gaza with a yellow line where roughly 58% of Gaza is controlled by Israel and 42% by Palestinians, the rough division is shown in this map:

The Israeli military deployments are shown here:

Putting it all together

We can be confident that Hamas are resident within the Palestinian areas (42%) but venture out into the Israeli (58%) zone conducted military operations before ceasefire and go back in. Israeli tried with all its might to subdue 42% of Gaza but couldn't so the military aims can be divided into two parts:

42%: If ISF is deployed in this zone then there job would be directly confronting Hamas possibly disarming them and controlling them
58%: if ISF is deployed in this zone then its job will be to create a buffer zone and prevent Israeli casualties.

Arabs have no military capabilities to disarm Hamas.
Turkiye will have a huge backlash if its military confronts Hamas.
Pakistan will disintegrate the moment Pakistan Army military engages with Hamas no matter the outcome.

U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) hosted a conference in the Qatari capital of Doha on December 16 and have tried all methods and nobody is willing to commit to confronting Hamas.

Even the most Zionist Muslim nations cannot do this! So a few days ago US officially changed the Goalpost knowing that even the Qatar CENTCOM mission will fail

ISF will not fight Hamas, say US officials, who still seek to deploy force next month

Lets now get back to Reuters story and connect the dots with regards to Pakistan

www.reuters.com/world/china/pakistans-military-chief-asim...

This story is authored by:

Asif Shahzad: Who reports on the AF-PAK region and lives in Islamabad
Ariba Shahid: She is an economics and finance reporter who lives in Karachi

The fact that two Pakistani Reporters (from inside Pakistan) have written this piece leads us to believe that this is cleared by ISI and Pakistani Military.

All religious parties in Pakistan which basically back the military are openly saying that Pakistan Army will not confront Hamas.

The Ulama have laid the ground work and when the decision is officially announced by Trump it will be presented as a victory for General Asim Munir that he stood up to Americans when he reality he has no power or intention to oppose the Americans.

The bottom line for ISF is to protect Israelees either by:

Disarming Hamas OR
Leaving Hamas behind the yellow line but taking over from Israeli forces and creating a buffer zone

Muslims inside Pakistan?

Pakistan is likely to deploy to Gaza and Ulama of Pakistan will spin this in a way which is seen to be meritorious, religious and virtuous to appease 250+ million people of Pakistan

Muslims outside Pakistan?

Their views are inconsequential as long as US is supporting Pakistan and providing Aid.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 19th December 2025 20:21

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Confirmation from US that Pakistan has "offered" to be part of ISF...

x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2002063263337517242

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 20th December 2025 01:53

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JTR probably already recording videos.

General Asim Munir meri jind, meri jaan

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 25th December 2025 17:51

Many years back someone told me that a tiny section of elders of deen believed the army from the hadith that was to be swallowed up by the earth when it is heading to fight the Mahdi will actually turn out to be the Pakistani army. Back then even though I was aware of the rotten state of the Pakistani military even then, this was a somewhat far-fetched idea to me. They said the belief was that it would be the Saudi royals who would invoke the help of the Pakistani military when they learn of the Mahdi.

So when the news of a "defence pact" came out between Saudi and Pakistan, it certainly sent alarm bells ringing in my head. And then this ISF became a new twist in the saga where only Israeli-approved armies are being allowed to participate.

Would be interesting to see who they appoint to command this army. If things really are headed the way of us actually seeing end of times ahadith being fulfilled right in front of our eyes, then we might get a clue from that of the Sufiyani.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2025 16:55

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Same Hadeeth went in my head too...

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