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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 16:34
Instead of trying to prove your point of view, re-read the posts and try to understand the basis of what is being said

Your answers are there, should you choose to accept it

Should you not, even if Maulana Ilyas رحمة الله عليه replies on this forum, you will not be able to accept it

Don't worry about the masses, don't worry about the different efforts and the impact they have on broader society, don't worry about saving the Work of Tabligh, there's nothing to prove, we're all trying to call people towards Allah Ta'ala according to their temperaments and our capabilities

There is no competition

The points you are raising and going to raise are the exact points people used to take Workers of Tabligh away from Ulama and Mashaikh. Which is what has led to the downfall of the Work you see now

Move past it and you will see a new light in your Effort of Tabligh. Of this I guarantee you insha Allah
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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 16:42
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What you posted does emphasise finding a learned Shaykh, and if you have not found one then to engage in abundant recitation of Quran.

So the question to you is what's wrong with doing both at the same time, Tabligh and Tassawuf.
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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 16:43
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Neither tasawwuf and madrasah are complete package.

The point we are discussing here is we get islah in tableeg. More we are regular in tableeg, more the qurbani we offer, more nearer to instructions of akabir, the degree of islah increases.
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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 16:45
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you have missed that, it is written, "to get islah get engaged in tableeg".
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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 16:46
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Engaging in both tableeg and tasawwuf is an individual choice. But one gets islah in tableeg.
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 16:47
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The highlighted part says "Give time for the work of tabligh" Am I correct.

It doesn't say Tabligh is the whole or only package and nothing else will do.

Tabligh me waqt lagayaajaye NOT Tabligh me HE waqt lagayaajaye
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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 16:48
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With regularity in Tabligh steadfastness/istiqamah increases in the fundamentals, Salah, Zikr, Sawm, etc but does it help eliminate spiritual illnesses and rectification of ones character? Or does one need a guide to help in this regard.
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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 16:50
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Ahle Tasawwuf know what is "sulook ke manazil taye karna", passing through stages of sulook.

I heard it from a shaykh "Tableeg mein saathee sulook ke manazil jaldi taye karta hai", when someone is regular in tableeg, he briskly passes through stages of sulook.
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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 16:52
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You missed what was stated before and what was stated after, you need to read the whole paragraph of what you posted in its context.

Correct me if I am wrong but did not all the elders who participated in this work have a guide. And connected themselves to Shuyookh for the purpose of Islah.
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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 16:53
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does it help eliminate spiritual illnesses and rectification of ones character?

yes it helps....
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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 17:01
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That is for shuyookh of tableeg, they need counselors. the same shuyookh advice the common man what I have quoted earlier.
1. Tableegh is for islah
2. Tableeg is riyaz
3. Aamaal e tableeg makes one to briskly pass through stages of sulook.
4. Tableeg is for islah of masses and it needs workers, and it hurts when other groups poach and take away honest workers from tableeg...... all in the name of islah, upgrade, taraqqi etc. If workers leave tableeg, then who will do islah of masses.
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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 17:12
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I have discussed some serious issues in replies to other members.

I have said, one gets islah and tazkiyah with aamaal e dawat. The grading of islah/tazkiyah is related with amount of qurbani he offers.

do you agree with this quote from maulana Ilyas RA "This effort is in reality a Riyazath of a very high degree. Alas, people do not understand its reality!"
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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 17:12
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So that is all for the Shuyookh yet the regular "Saathi" excels??

Delusion?
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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 17:14
I came to reply to the incorrect statements I read because this is a forum as thousands of people will read it and get a wrong idea

My intention was not to correct you Br Akbar

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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2025 17:44
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I quote Qarri Tayyib sab RA. I present a part of his research on tabligh, how one gets islah in tabligh

Those are two perfections found in a human being. Firstly, his perfection in knowledge and secondly his perfection in action (i.e. practical way of life). To perfect one‟s knowledge, there are Islamic institutes, Madaaris (where knowledge of Qur‟an and Hadith are taught) and for the practical way of life, there are different methods. Imam Ghazali rah‟matullaahi „alaih has mentioned four methods of perfecting the practical way of life in his book Ihya-ul Ulum.

1.Company of the Men of Allah

2. The Choosing of a Friend

3.Reformation by means of the Enemy

4.Muhaasabah-e-Nafs (Taking stock of oneself)

Tablighi Jamaa’ah is a Composition of all the Means of Reformation If you ponder, you will realize that the Tablighi Jamaa‟at is a combination of all these four means of reformation, it is like a ma‟jun muraakab (compounded medication). It is like an elixir in which all four ways of self- reformation is found.
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